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We all know how much I hate smoking (hence, the posting of this thread).


I just don't get it (although maybe it will help with overpopulation).

:gunner: :smoking: :blastem:
 
1200 Americans die from tobacco related causes each day. That includes cigarettes, chew and pipes.
Smoking and chew are filthy, dirty habits.
ted
 
aps said:
We all know how much I hate smoking (hence, the posting of this thread).



I just don't get it (although maybe it will help with overpopulation).

:gunner: :smoking: :blastem:
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If you do not want to support big tobbaco then do not buy any of their products.

Altria Group for example owns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Altria_Group

* Tobacco:
o Phillip Morris brands:
+ Alpine
+ Basic
+ Benson & Hedges
+ Bristol
+ Bucks
+ Cambridge
+ Chesterfield
+ Collector's Choice
+ Commander
+ English Ovals
+ F6
+ Lark
+ L&M
+ Marlboro
+ Merit
+ Parliament
+ Players
+ Saratoga
+ Virginia Slims

* Alcohol (excluding beer):
o SABMiller -
+ Distell - bottler, 30% interest
+ Amalgamated Beverage Industries - exclusive bottler for Coca-Cola and Schweppes in areas of South Africa.
+ Appletiser - sparkling fruit juices
# Appletiser
# Grapetiser Red
# Grapetiser White

* Beer (by country):
o Botswana
+ Fusion Banana
+ Fusion Ice
+ Fusion Pineapple
+ Fusion Tropical
o China
+ Snow beer 11°P
o Czech Republic
+ Frisco
+ Gambrinus
+ Gambrinus Dia with lower sugar content
+ Gambrinus Premium
+ Pilsner Urquell
+ Radegast Birell
+ Radegast Original
+ Radegast Premium
+ Velkopopovický Kozel Cerny
+ Velkopopovický Kozel Premium
+ Velkopopovický Kozel Svetly
o El Salvador, CA
+ Regia Extra
o Ghana
+ Club Premium Lager
o Honduras
+ Bahia ®
+ Imperial ®
+ Port Royal ®
+ Salva Vida ®
o Hungary
+ Arany Ászok
+ Dreher Classic
+ K?bányai Sör
o India
+ Haywards 2000 H2K
+ Haywards 5000
+ Knock Out
+ Royal Challenge Premium Lager
o Italy
+ Nastro Azzurro
+ Peroni
+ Raffo
+ Wührer
o Lesotho
+ Carling Black Label (Brewed under licence.)
+ Castle Lager (Brewed under licence.)
+ Castle Milk Stout (Brewed under licence.)
+ Maluti Premium Lager
o Poland
+ Debowe Mocne (Oak Strong)
+ Ksi???ce Tyskie
+ Lech Mocny
+ Lech Pils
+ Lech Premium
+ Miller Genuine Draft (Brewed under licence.)
+ Pilsner Urquell (Brewed under licence.)
+ Redd's
+ Tyskie Gronie
+ ?ubr (Bison)
o Romania
+ Timisoreana
+ Ursus Premium
o Russia
+ Holsten (Brewed under licence.)
+ Tri Bogatyria Bochkovoye
+ Tri Bogatyria Svetloye
+ Zolotaya Bochka Classicheskoye (Golden Barrel Classic)
+ Zolotaya Bochka Osobaya Seria (Special Series)
+ Zolotaya Bochka Svetloye (Golden Barrel Light)
+ Zolotaya Bochka Vyderzhannoye (Golden Barrel Aged)
o Slovakia
+ Šariš 10%
+ Šariš 11% Dark
+ Šariš 12% Premium
+ Smädný mních Light
+ Smädný mních Premium
+ Topvar
o South Africa
+ Amstel Lager
+ Carling Black Label
+ Castle Lager
+ Castle Lite
+ Castle Milk Stout
+ Miller Genuine Draft (Brewed under licence.)
+ Redd's
+ Sterling Light Lager
o Swaziland
+ Castle Lager (Brewed under licence.)
+ Castle Milk Stout (Brewed under licence.)
+ Carling Black Label (Brewed under licence.)
o United States
+ Henry Weinhard's Amber Light
+ Henry Weinhard's Blue Boar Pale Ale
+ Henry Weinhard's Hefeweizen
+ Henry Weinhard's Northwest Trail
+ Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve
+ Icehouse
+ Leinenkugel's Amber Light
+ Leinenkugel's Berry Weiss
+ Leinenkugel's Big Butt Doppelbock
+ Leinenkugel's Creamy Dark Lager
+ Leinenkugel's Honey Weiss
+ Leinenkugel's Light
+ Leinenkugel's Northwoods Lager
+ Leinenkugel's Oktoberfest
+ Leinenkugel's Original
+ Leinenkugel's Red Lager
+ Mickey's Malt Liquor
+ Miller Genuine Draft
+ Miller Genuine Draft Light
+ Miller High Life
+ Miller Lite
+ Milwaukee's Best
+ Olde English 800 Malt Liquor
+ SKYY Blue
+ SKYY Sport
o Zambia
+ Fusion Banana
+ Fusion Ice
+ Fusion Pineapple
+ Fusion Tropical
+ Mosi Lager
+ Rhino Lager
+ Whisky Black

* Foods:
o Kraft Foods - (Formerly General Foods) brands:
+ Post Cereals
# 100% Bran
# Alpha-Bits
# Marshmallow Alpha-Bits
# Banana Nut Crunch
# Blueberry Morning
# Bran Flakes
# Cranberry Almond Crunch
# Cinna-Cluster Raisin Bran
# Cocoa Pebbles
# Fruity Pebbles
# Fruit & Fibre
# Frosted Shredded Wheat
# Golden Crisp
# Grape-Nuts
# Grape-Nuts Flakes
# Grape-Nuts O's
# Great Grains
# Honey Bunches of Oats
# Honey Bunches of Oats with Strawberries
# Honeycomb
# Honey Nut Shredded Wheat
# Oreo O's
# Postum
# Post Pebbles
# Post Premium Raisin Bran
# Post Shredded Wheat
# Shredded Wheat 'N Bran
# Post Toasties
# Waffle Crisp
+ Nabisco
# Jell-O
# Planters Nuts
# LifeSavers Candies
# Chips Ahoy
# Fig Newtons
# Mallomars
# Oreos
# Ritz Crackers
# Teddy Grahams
# Triscuits
# Wheat Thins
# Royal
# Altoids
o Kraft cheese
o Tang
o Kool-Aid
o Philadelphia Cream Cheese
o Boca Burger
o Crystal Light (called Clight in Mexico)
o Daim
o Del Monte
o Jacobs Coffee
o Jet Puffed Marshamallows
o Kaffee HAG
o Lenders Bagels
o Maxwell House
o Milka
o Milka Lila pause
o Milka M-joy
o Miracle Whip
o Miracoli
o Mirácoli O’Fino (Germany)
o Nabob Coffee
o Onko
o Oscar Mayer meats
o Shake 'n Bake
o Suchard
o Suchard Finessa (Austria)
o Toblerone
o Vegemite
* Pavlides (Greek subsidiary)
o lacta
* Jacobs Ebony coffee (Germany, Austria and Eastern Europe)
* Gevalia coffee (Nordic countries)
 
MmMmMmMmMMmMmMmmmmMm!!!!

Smoking is so much fun!




WOW! Doesn't that look exciting kids?


We North Carolinians who know that Tobacco is what runs our state economy have this to say to all you out there.....

 
No need to single out smokers, let's go after fat people too, because fat people who breed with fat people tend to produce more fat people, who are at higher risk....

Obesity: Risk factors - MayoClinic.com

How about those pesky alcoholics?

"Alcohol dependence and alcohol abuse cost the United States an estimated $220 billion in 2005. This dollar amount was more than the cost associated with cancer ($196 billion) and obesity ($133 billion)."

Alcoholics Info


I hate to bring this one into the mix, but it's a doozy when you consider the cost associated with it. Yep, we're going to have to ban sex, STD's are outta control and killing people, imagine that.


General Information - STD information from CDC

Shucks, we're going to have to tax-n-ban all the good stuff because the do-gooder police doesn't like it :roll:
 
Gee, Caine, I am wondering why you brought up a thread that was more than 2 months old? Feeling a little defensive about your disgusting habit?
 
aps said:
I just don't get it (although maybe it will help with overpopulation).

:gunner: :smoking: :blastem:
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Thar ya go. Darwin at his finest. Thinning the herd of the weak is a good thing, doncha know.
 

You must be a smoker. LOL It always makes me laugh to see smokers get in a tizzy whenever negative effects on smoking come up.

I agree with your statement to some extent about obesity; however, an obese person consuming 7 Big Macs has no impact on those in his/her vicinity. Smoking impacts the smoker and those around him/her.
 
People dying from smoking is just more proof of Darwins theory of evolution and survival of the fittst. If you're stupid that you do not realize that maybe the chemicals in what you're smoking can possibly kill you someday, then you probably got what was coming to you. I see this as a good sign for Atheist all over the world.
 

Partially correct, I quit smoking a year ago August, I smoked for 24 years. I feel better than ever and everything tastes better.

I do however believe people should have a right to choose, without being taxed to death, or taxed unfairly.

I never smoked inside of public buildings back in the day, and I can remember people inside 7-11's with cigs hanging out of their mouths.

When restaurants banned smoking, I complied, no biggie, I can respect that.

What I don't respect, is smoking being banned (or an attemp to pass laws) in your own vehicle or dwelling.

What I'm really opposed to, are lawsuits filed against big tobacco because people claim they didn't know they could die from smoking.

People who smoke, know it's not healthy, they assume the risk when they make the choice to smoke.
 
Our condo association just tried to pass a regulation that would make it a fineable offense to smoke in your condo or in the common areas (just a stupid phrase to mean the 12' square plot of land in front of each condo that we joking refer to as our front lawn :mrgreen: ).

Happily, this was shot down, and I'm proud to have been the spearheader that brought it down.

I hate smoking. I do not smoke. I can't stand being around people who are smoking. I remember kissing somebody once who was a smoker and it was as erotic as licking an ashtray. I won't shop in businesses that allow smoking. I hate standing next to somebody in an elevator who has been smoking - they stink. I hate having to go through a blue cloud of toxic fumes when I walk in or out of a restaurant or bar or mall or ... etc.

But to attempt to outlaw a perfectly legal act is horrible IMO - and smacks of P.C. fascism (and I'm the king of P.C.! LOL). We have to stop intruding on people's private lives!!!
 
So... lemme see if I get this straight...

Anyone who ever does anything that they know could cause harm to themselves is... stupid? It's just "Darwin in action"?

Are you people confused about the fact that the #1 cause of death is living? :lol: Point being... we all die. All of us. Whether you smoke or not, whether you eat big macs or not, whether you paddle your boats over waterfalls or not, whether you're a careful driver or not... we all die. So I really fail to see how living one's life as one wishes is "stupid" given the fact that the end result for all is identical.
 


I hope no one in your family dies or gets lung cancer from second-hand smoke. If they do, I hope you'll still be cheering yourself for what you did. :thumbdown
 
aps said:
I hope no one in your family dies or gets lung cancer from second-hand smoke. If they do, I hope you'll still be cheering yourself for what you did. :thumbdown
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People die from lung cancer all the time. Don't believe the hype you're being sold; lung cancer is high in this country because we are an industrialized nation.

My mother and my wifes cousin, a contrast in two different ways of life. Both diagnosed with single cell carcinoma (lung cancer that spread to the liver), at roughly the same time, within weeks. My mother a life-long smoker. My wife's cousin a life-long non-smoker.

I'm not going to say mom lived much longer because she smoked, I'm going to say they both got the same disease, regardless of lifestyle. Or so we think. The common factor is living in an industrial nation, breathing in exhaust fumes day in and day out.

I have plenty of life examples of non-smokers and smokers, not adhereing to stereotypical form, it doesn't matter, someone has to be demonized for a generation that believes it should live forever and it's not going to be the energy sector, so let's blame the luxury sector in parts. Soon enough we'll see alcohol vilified too.
 
aps said:
We all know how much I hate smoking (hence, the posting of this thread).



I just don't get it (although maybe it will help with overpopulation).

:gunner: :smoking: :blastem:
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Quick...ban it! We don't have enough prohibition laws anyway. Afterall, the government is here to make us all healthy and safe.
 

If you don't like the impact that smoking has on you, don't smoke.
If you don't like the impact that being around smokers has on you, don't be around smokers.
 
aps said:
We all know how much I hate smoking (hence, the posting of this thread).



I just don't get it (although maybe it will help with overpopulation).

:gunner: :smoking: :blastem:
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That estimate is wildly off base. For one thing, current trends in smoking will almost certainly NOT continue. As more and more people become well-aware of the health dangers of smoking, it will become less popular. Just as it has in the United States. For another thing, current trends in population will almost certainly NOT continue. The world population will level off sometime mid-century at around 9-11 billion. Finally, we'll certainly have better medical treatment available by the end of the century than we do now.
 
Tobacco expected to kill 1 billion this century......so what the majority of smokers and those who use tobacco products know the dangers of using these products. Its their own fault of they die.
 
For another thing, current trends in population will almost certainly NOT continue. The world population will level off sometime mid-century at around 9-11 billion.
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Do you have a link for that? I am rather curious as to the theoretical reason for for the level off.
 
aps said:
I hope no one in your family dies or gets lung cancer from second-hand smoke. If they do, I hope you'll still be cheering yourself for what you did. :thumbdown
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what I "did?"

you mean fight for the right for people to be free in a democratic republic and enjoy the right to privacy?

you mean object to a ban on perfectly legal activities because some (including myself!) find it a fairly loathsome activity?

I don't need to cheer myself - but I'm certainly not ashamed of standing up for what I believe in.
 
Panache said:
Do you have a link for that? I am rather curious as to the theoretical reason for for the level off.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#Forecast_of_world_population

Basically the reason is that as societies become more economically developed, the birth rate falls dramatically. The birth rate in the US and Canada is just barely at the replacement level, and the populations of Europe and Japan are actually shrinking. Meanwhile, some nations in Africa are growing at over 3% annually.

As more nations become developed, this will apply to them as well. Poor societies generally view children as an asset, because they can work to help provide for the family. Wealthy societies generally view children as a liability, because they cost huge amounts of money to raise.
 
Kandahar said:
If you don't like the impact that smoking has on you, don't smoke.
If you don't like the impact that being around smokers has on you, don't be around smokers.
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Well, guess what, Kandahar? That's what I do. :roll:
 


Well, I am 21, and it's legal for me to drink. Why am I not allowed to walk around a city or town drinking alcohol? That's against the law.

rivrrat, you make me laugh. :lol:
 
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