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To whom it may concern.....

tosca1 said:
This thread is inspired by an assertion made in another thread:


However, can you acknowledge that for many of the non-believing posters who religiously follow God-related threads...………………….
…...............there is something undeniable that draws them to God-topics?


Here is the premise, reposted below.

I don't see myself spending time and effort reading, let alone posting, in areas that doesn't interest me.
Like, hanging out in the Health section and debating what is a false and true diet - based on science - do I ever go there?

Like I said, you and everyone else here who don't believe in the existence of God, have your own reason(s) why you are drawn to God-related topics.
I can understand a few tries out of curiousity - but to practically hang around? C'mon.

You know who you are.

I can't answer for you. What is yours?
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Beliefs interest me.
There are billions of people who believe mutually exclusive things.
I like to know why they believe.

I am not drawn to god related topics but they are a source of spirited, interesting discussions about beliefs.
I can understand your aversion to science (knowledge). Religions don't like questions, or answers for that matter, especially when the answers are inconvenient, religiously speaking.

Oh. Starting a premise from a personal incredulity, classic!
 
vegas giants said:
But you said Greek. Now its Hebrew. Are you sure?
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Fulfill is fulfill, regardless of language...that's what an accurate translation is:doh...Matthew wrote his book in Hebrew, then in Greek......

after writing for his own people, the Jews, realized at once the need to put his message into Greek and so proceeded with the task. That Matthew wrote his Gospel first in Hebrew is apparent from the fact that careful examination of all his quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures shows that he quoted directly from the Hebrew and not from the Septuagint version. Had he written his Gospel first in Greek he most likely would have quoted from the Greek Septuagint. In both the original Hebrew and in Matthew’s Greek version of his Gospel it is reasonable to conclude that the name “Jehovah” appeared frequently, as he would be no more affected by the superstition against its use than was his Master Jesus Christ.
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The Good News According to Matthew — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
Elvira said:
fulfill meaning - Google Search



covenant meaning - Google Search

Now, tell me again what it means to fulfill a covenant...
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Again "I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." That means he came to fulfill them, it doesn't mean he has, also notice "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;" which mean all the laws in the old testament are still in force.

You see Pharisees accused Jesus of replacing the law, that statement was to show the laws that were not replace or going to be replaced.

But notice how you don't say if you do or do not follow the bible, or if you don't.
 
rwee2000 said:
Again "I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." That means he came to fulfill them, it doesn't mean he has, also notice "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;" which mean all the laws in the old testament are still in force.

You see Pharisees accused Jesus of replacing the law, that statement was to show the laws that were not replace or going to be replaced.

But notice how you don't say if you do or do not follow the bible, or if you don't.
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When a contact if fulfilled, it's no longer valid...how difficult is that for you to understand?
 
rwee2000 said:
Again "I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." That means he came to fulfill them, it doesn't mean he has, also notice "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets;" which mean all the laws in the old testament are still in force.

You see Pharisees accused Jesus of replacing the law, that statement was to show the laws that were not replace or going to be replaced.

But notice how you don't say if you do or do not follow the bible, or if you don't.
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Jesus says not a jot or title of the OT law will change until the earth disappears. Last time I looked out the window, the earth is still there. Has the earth disappeared in your neck of the woods?


Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
 
devildavid said:
I have no idea, that is why I ask a true christian.
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The OT still have value for Christians today to be able to read about and meditate on examples of faithful men and women in difficult life circumstances, how they benefited when they relied on Jehovah and how things did not turn out so well when they did not...just as Paul stated in 2 Timothy 3:16,17...

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."

Also, it helps to have the complete picture of what Jehovah God purposed in the beginning, how that purpose got side tracked, and how God has managed to bring it all back on track, through His son, Jesus Christ, for mankind's benefit... because it gives us a record of how other imperfect men and women remained faithful during trying circumstances so it is not out of our reach, we can, too...

"For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope." Romans 15:4
 
Elvira said:
The OT still have value for Christians today to be able to read about and meditate on examples of faithful men and women in difficult life circumstances, how they benefited when they relied on Jehovah and how things did not turn out so well when they did not...just as Paul stated in 2 Timothy 3:16,17...

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."

Also, it helps to have the complete picture of what Jehovah God purposed in the beginning, how that purpose got side tracked, and how God has managed to bring it all back on track, through His son, Jesus Christ, for mankind's benefit... because it gives us a record of how other imperfect men and women remained faithful during trying circumstances so it is not out of our reach, we can, too...

"For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope." Romans 15:4
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Especially the killing parts
 
Elvira said:
When a contact if fulfilled, it's no longer valid...
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Jesus says "Until the earth disappears". See:

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.



....how difficult is that for you to understand?
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Has the earth disappeared where you live?
 
vegas giants said:
Especially the killing parts
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Don't forget the slaves. You get to have slaves, and they have to obey you. Praise Jesus!

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

No more of those "sons of a bitches" football players taking a knee. Praise Trump!
 
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SLAVE

The original-language words rendered “slave” or “servant” are not limited in their application to persons owned by others. The Hebrew word ʽeʹvedh can refer to persons owned by fellowmen. (Ge 12:16; Ex 20:17) Or the term can designate subjects of a king (2Sa 11:21; 2Ch 10:7), subjugated peoples who paid tribute (2Sa 8:2, 6), and persons in royal service, including cupbearers, bakers, seamen, military officers, advisers, and the like, whether owned by fellowmen or not (Ge 40:20; 1Sa 29:3; 1Ki 9:27; 2Ch 8:18; 9:10; 32:9). In respectful address, a Hebrew, instead of using the first person pronoun, would at times speak of himself as a servant (ʽeʹvedh) of the one to whom he was talking. (Ge 33:5, 14; 42:10, 11, 13; 1Sa 20:7, 8) ʽEʹvedh was used in referring to servants, or worshipers, of Jehovah generally (1Ki 8:36; 2Ki 10:23) and, more specifically, to special representatives of God, such as Moses. (Jos 1:1, 2; 24:29; 2Ki 21:10) Though not a worshiper of Jehovah, one who performed a service that was in harmony with the divine will could be spoken of as God’s servant, an example being King Nebuchadnezzar.​—Jer 27:6.
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Slave — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 
vegas giants said:
They must mean slave in the good way. Lol
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Slave could mean to another human such as an employer, or to a substance, such as tobacco, drugs, or alcohol...it depends on the connotation now, doesn't it? Many scriptures on slavery can be applied to modern life...
 
Elvira said:
Slave could mean to another human such as an employer, or to a substance, such as tobacco, drugs, or alcohol...it depends on the connotation now, doesn't it? Many scriptures on slavery can be applied to modern life...
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Like the one on the size of the stick to use to beat slaves?
 
vegas giants said:
Like the one on the size of the stick to use to beat slaves?
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Or this one...

“No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other. You cannot slave for God and for Riches." Matthew 6:24
 
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