To those who can't or don't understand privilege, show them this Video

[ReverendHellh0und]

Bombastic is pompous high-sounding inflated language with very little meaning. If that's what you are trying to say of your verbal skills I'll gladly agree with you Rev.

It's a joke d00d, when you guys get all butt hurt over my retorts. *sigh*

And don't worry, I was never expecting you to admit you were acting angry or pissy. That would go against this carefully constituted character you've constructed

So anyone who disagrees with you with any sort of zeal is angry? tell me guy, how should i post to not upset your sensitivities? :lol:

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

They get bent out of shape with the smileys too...trust me.

No...what you are seeing is the bitter angry hate filled response to you because you arent appropriately cowed by the ridiculous message and intent in the OP. Surely you recognize their response. Its the same response they give when you dont capitulate when they shriek "homophobe!" or "racist!" Its supposed to work, dammit! And if their inane attempts to shame you into submission dont work...what else can they use? I mean...the facts dont support their arguments, so all they have are emotional appeals, and emotional appeals work on THEM so why wont it work on YOU, you big meany.

it's idiotic, I've been posting exactly the same way for over a decade, suddenly in the last few months I have these alt-left SJW types calling me angry every time I retort to them. It's odd.

 

[maxparrish]

There's no need to be defencive, or argumentative or angry.
Just be aware, respectful and educated that everything is not equal.

There's no need to feel guilty, argumentative, or angry.
Just use your brain and educated that the white privilege paradigm is bunk.

A few takeaways:

White privilege propagandists see all whites as highly prejudiced or racists.
White privilege propagandists can't recall how their "privilege" gave them a "privilege" on a daily basis.
White privilege propagandists say they are opposed to collective judgement of people (ironic, no?).
Black people, when interviewed, either dismiss or mock the notion of white privilege as something they bother with.

And, by the way, its not a special racial "privilege" to have a two parent family, a cell phone, or more ability and knowledge than the next guy - its either luck or the willingness to do something about it.

Listen to the interviewed black folk that don't buy into the BS.

 

[roughdraft274]

tell me guy, how should i post to not upset your sensitivities?

*yawn*

 

[OlNate]

Don't be so gullible.


the parents, father figure, limiting it to athletic scholarships, and the visuals of blond haired white kids in the front and black kids in the back make it very clear. don't play games.

lol...yet, isn't the father figure thing what you "there's no such thing as privilege" geniuses bring up every single time when the disparity statistics are blamed on racism?

Maybe you guys would get some traction if you picked a story and stuck to it... :lol:

And massive personal attack in 4, 3, 2............

 

[VanceMack]

Not sure where you're going here. Having an advantage is a good thing.
Nothing wrong with knowing that others are not so lucky.

We would agree. I’m sure the Obama daughters are as appreciative of their privilege as my kids are. And nothing wrong with knowing that had the video been shot in the Appalachian states those would be white kids standing back there instead of all black kids. If that group had been 40 kids from the inner cities of Detroit then its likely that all 40 would still be standing there...black, brown, and white.
What can’t be avoided is the dog whistle that the term ‘privilege’ has become. It’s meant to show victim states for those that don’t have it and special status for those that do-and by implication, it is used racially. That’s why that video didn’t use as a demographic the kids of wealthy and successful black American families. Had they done so, the ‘message’ would be radically different.


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[VanceMack]

it's idiotic, I've been posting exactly the same way for over a decade, suddenly in the last few months I have these alt-left SJW types calling me angry every time I retort to them. It's odd.

Ya get used to it.

 

[VanceMack]

Ya know...the more I see the video and comments in this thread the more I realize how right they are. And those people that were left behind...those people that didnt enjoy privilege...they should really be pissed that their parents were such selfish worthless ****s.

 

[MrPeanut]

privilege and advantage are two different things.


One should strive to give your kids every advantage possible. Privilege infers an advantage that is unearned while someone behind the scenes (like the parents) worked hard to get that advantage for thier kids.


My son does wrestling.

Not only does he go to the schools practices but he also goes to one of the top wrestling schools in the country which gives him an advantage at meets, not a privilege.

Your ilk's view is that he should recognize that he has a "privilege" and maybe not wrestle so hard during matches. it's a stupid ideology.

I agree that we should strive to give our kids as many advantages as possible. Privileges are unearned. You may have worked hard for your son, but when people talk about privilege they are referring to him not you. It's an honest assessment that some people have more privilege than others. It is not meant to be an attack or anything like that. Recognizing that privilege plays a major role in the success of a person is reality. What we do with that knowledge should be the topic of debate, and not the fact that it obviously exists.

 

[Lutherf]

There's no need to be defencive, or argumentative or angry.

Just be aware, respectful and educated that everything is not equal.

The video implies that privilege is inherent. It isn't. Privilege is earned. It is earned by the choices we make within our own society and our willingness to be selfless.

At the earliest stages of society we are presented with the choice to hold the resources in our reach for ourselves or to share those resources. Perhaps we have an abundant hunting ground and food is all around us. We can hunt individually and never fear for hunger. We then have a choice. We can choose to protect our hunting ground and keep the game for ourselves or we can act selflessly and accept the participation of another hunter. If we choose to keep the game for ourselves and, one day, injure our leg so that we can't hunt for a time, we run the risk of starvation. However, if we chose to be selfless there is the chance that the other hunter will assist us until we can get back on our feet. Our odds of surviving increase and this gives us privilege over those who chose to go it alone.

Our freedom to seek out, create and benefit from privilege is what we fought the Revolution for. It's the reason we leave our parent's home to create our own lives. It's the way we not only survive as a society but how we thrive as a species. Without the freedom to create our own privilege we must rely on privilege to be bestowed upon us. The grantors of privilege will always be our masters and we will only be allowed to thrive as long as we remain in their favor. Such privilege is always at risk due to the changing whims of the masters and it is always limited to what the masters might grant.

If one chooses to be the "subject" of privilege they will, forever see inequity in life. If they choose to be the creators of privilege they will always see abundance in life. Ones privilege is ALWAYS their choice.

 

[maxparrish]

The purpose of this Thread was not to piss anyone off; it's nothing more that providing an awareness that now all of us start the game on the same base.

That's a fact, nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. No one is pointing a finger.

Getting all angry and all pissy changes nothing, it just makes your blood pressure go up.

If you really are "very conservative" I suspect you are of a much younger generation than I (I graduated from HS in 69). You are not the only right of center person that has been "tutored" by simplistic liberal "framing" of social issues - but given the mindset burned into school children of the last two generations, I am not surprised.

The concept that some people are born into "privilege" is as old as the Republic, as is the popular resentment of that class. Of course, through history the targeted group group changes; in the late 1800s everyone hated the "privileged" old money of the Boston aristocracy; then they hated the privileged rich of the new money ("robber barons"); then they hated anyone who had any money (the 1930s).

In the 1960s the paradigm shifted to race privilege, then in the 70s to gender (sex) privilege, then to 'straight' privileges over gays, and now its a rabble of complainers, whiners, and haters of anyone suspected of having the slightest advantage (unless they show their virtue by feeling guilty).

You need to crack open a few reputable social history books, read some insightful social commentary (e.g. Shelby Steele), and get deeper than the tripe you presented.

 

[CLAX1911]

Oh, SJW . However you mean it, I don't follow. I don't know why cigar posted that video.



That seems obvious, somehow I think cigar would agree.

his video demonstrates that they need to be seen as handicapped. He may agree with the sentiment but he is going against it posting such videos.

Highlighting that it's largely a problem with blacks because blacks are blacks or whites are whites is not solving anything b its simply further dividing.

Focus on the issue not the race.

By SJW I essentially mean cultural Marxists. People that believe identity dictates reality.

 

[ataraxia]

I don't judge people. So what is this strange non existent issue you are bringing up?

You should learn to judge people- and help those who you judge to be in positions of weakness and vulnerability. It's called a sense of humanity. Try it sometime.

 

[maxparrish]

I agree that we should strive to give our kids as many advantages as possible. Privileges are unearned. You may have worked hard for your son, but when people talk about privilege they are referring to him not you. It's an honest assessment that some people have more privilege than others. It is not meant to be an attack or anything like that. Recognizing that privilege plays a major role in the success of a person is reality. What we do with that knowledge should be the topic of debate, and not the fact that it obviously exists.

It's a trite observation. Ever heard the favored term "underprivileged" ? (Of course you have). It's the now universal term used ALREADY to convey a major role in success. It long ago replaced "disadvantaged" (in 80s) in popularity (which had replaced the 60s "the lower-income" which had replaced the ten popular term "the poor" in social commentary).

"Underprivileged" has been overused for decades because unlike prior terms, it creates class blame or resentment. It suggests others are "over-privileged", that they have some unfair special advantage.

Anyway, its trite. We need to get over the obviously wrong mindset.

 

[ataraxia]

There's no need to feel guilty, argumentative, or angry.
Just use your brain and educated that the white privilege paradigm is bunk.

A few takeaways:

White privilege propagandists see all whites as highly prejudiced or racists.
White privilege propagandists can't recall how their "privilege" gave them a "privilege" on a daily basis.
White privilege propagandists say they are opposed to collective judgement of people (ironic, no?).
Black people, when interviewed, either dismiss or mock the notion of white privilege as something they bother with.

And, by the way, its not a special racial "privilege" to have a two parent family, a cell phone, or more ability and knowledge than the next guy - its either luck or the willingness to do something about it.

Listen to the interviewed black folk that don't buy into the BS.

I don't know how this thread got turned into something about race. Race may be a part of it, but certainly not the whole thing. It's about things like this too:

In Kentucky, a Trump stronghold, many fear losing Obamacare - ABC News

 

[polgara]

The video implies that privilege is inherent. It isn't. Privilege is earned. It is earned by the choices we make within our own society and our willingness to be selfless.

At the earliest stages of society we are presented with the choice to hold the resources in our reach for ourselves or to share those resources. Perhaps we have an abundant hunting ground and food is all around us. We can hunt individually and never fear for hunger. We then have a choice. We can choose to protect our hunting ground and keep the game for ourselves or we can act selflessly and accept the participation of another hunter. If we choose to keep the game for ourselves and, one day, injure our leg so that we can't hunt for a time, we run the risk of starvation. However, if we chose to be selfless there is the chance that the other hunter will assist us until we can get back on our feet. Our odds of surviving increase and this gives us privilege over those who chose to go it alone.

Our freedom to seek out, create and benefit from privilege is what we fought the Revolution for. It's the reason we leave our parent's home to create our own lives. It's the way we not only survive as a society but how we thrive as a species. Without the freedom to create our own privilege we must rely on privilege to be bestowed upon us. The grantors of privilege will always be our masters and we will only be allowed to thrive as long as we remain in their favor. Such privilege is always at risk due to the changing whims of the masters and it is always limited to what the masters might grant.

If one chooses to be the "subject" of privilege they will, forever see inequity in life. If they choose to be the creators of privilege they will always see abundance in life. Ones privilege is ALWAYS their choice.

Greetings, Lutherf. :2wave:

Great post! :thumbs: I was reminded of the story Niemollar wrote during WW2 which ended with the statement "...and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me."

Since none of us knows what the future holds for us, maybe it's a good idea to help others while we can? There are many who volunteer their time and expertise in so many areas today, and if the need were not great, it wouldn't be necessary, but unfortunately it is, as the recent hurricanes have shown us. I was proud to be a citizen of this country when I saw so many pitching in to help strangers, risking their own lives in many cases to do so! :thumbs:

My only complaint might be that many of the "privileged" elite of this planet seem to only care about themselves by concentrating on acquiring more power and wealth when bad things happen, but that is a problem for the universe to handle, not me. Que sera, sera!

 

[VanceMack]

There's no need to feel guilty, argumentative, or angry.
Just use your brain and educated that the white privilege paradigm is bunk.

A few takeaways:

White privilege propagandists see all whites as highly prejudiced or racists.
White privilege propagandists can't recall how their "privilege" gave them a "privilege" on a daily basis.
White privilege propagandists say they are opposed to collective judgement of people (ironic, no?).
Black people, when interviewed, either dismiss or mock the notion of white privilege as something they bother with.

And, by the way, its not a special racial "privilege" to have a two parent family, a cell phone, or more ability and knowledge than the next guy - its either luck or the willingness to do something about it.

Listen to the interviewed black folk that don't buy into the BS.

:lamo

I do love the video...

Those ****ing morons in that video are who the OP relies on to feel shame and guilt. This pretense that it isnt about WHITE privilege...its 'just' privilege is bull****.

 

[VanceMack]

I don't know how this thread got turned into something about race. Race may be a part of it, but certainly not the whole thing. It's about things like this too:

In Kentucky, a Trump stronghold, many fear losing Obamacare - ABC News

Of course you know how this thread was turned to race. The video was CLEARLY demonstrating 'white privilege' merely by the demographics. "White Privilege" has been a drum banged by idiot leftists for years.

You ever wonder why people dont offer THIS...



As their examples when they talk about 'privilege'?

 

[Lutherf]

Greetings, Lutherf. :2wave:

Great post! :thumbs: I was reminded of the story Niemollar wrote during WW2 which ended with the statement "...and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me."

Since none of us knows what the future holds for us, maybe it's a good idea to help others while we can? There are many who volunteer their time and expertise in so many areas today, and if the need were not great, it wouldn't be necessary, but unfortunately it is, as the recent hurricanes have shown us. I was proud to be a citizen of this country when I saw so many pitching in to help strangers, risking their own lives in many cases to do so! :thumbs:

My only complaint might be that many of the "privileged" elite of this planet seem to only care about themselves by concentrating on acquiring more power and wealth when bad things happen, but that is a problem for the universe to handle, not me. Que sera, sera!

There are many people out there that like the idea of bestowing privilege rather than creating the opportunity for privilege. After all, if you can control who gets what privilege your own privilege will not be at risk. These people are often operating on the idea that they are being benevolent but their actions are not selfless. Quite the contrary. Their actions are selfish and designed to limit privilege for others to some level less than that which they themselves have developed.

 

[ataraxia]

There are many people out there that like the idea of bestowing privilege rather than creating the opportunity for privilege.

Cutting funding for healthcare or education or even food to inner city children and their families because you don't think they should be getting any extra help from the government is not creating the opportunity for anything. It's OK to give a little extra help to those in a particularly bad place. That's how you create opportunity.

 

[ataraxia]

Of course you know how this thread was turned to race. The video was CLEARLY demonstrating 'white privilege' merely by the demographics. "White Privilege" has been a drum banged by idiot leftists for years.

You ever wonder why people dont offer THIS...

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As their examples when they talk about 'privilege'?

How did this thread come to be about race? I don't see that issue brought up in the OP.

Because it could just as easily be about these guys too:

 

[VanceMack]

How did this thread come to be about race? I don't see that issue brought up in the OP.

Because it could just as easily be about these guys too:

If you wanted to start a thread about Obamacare and those folks that would be great...though why you bring this up in a discussion about 'privilege' I have no ide.......oh...wait...I get it. You know its ridiculous to pretend 'privilege' isnt really a discussion about "white privilege" so you dont want to talk about that. You instead want to say "TRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!"

:lamo

geeee zus. So ****ing predictable.

So when you DO start that thread...make sure you do that follow up to what those Kentucky farmers are now facing with their wonderful Obamacare exchanges.

"Some premiums for Ky. health exchange to skyrocket in 2017"

But really...thats a topic for another thread.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

lol...yet, isn't the father figure thing what you "there's no such thing as privilege" geniuses bring up every single time when the disparity statistics are blamed on racism?

Maybe you guys would get some traction if you picked a story and stuck to it... :lol:

And massive personal attack in 4, 3, 2............

No idea what you are on about.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

I agree that we should strive to give our kids as many advantages as possible. Privileges are unearned. You may have worked hard for your son, but when people talk about privilege they are referring to him not you. It's an honest assessment that some people have more privilege than others. It is not meant to be an attack or anything like that. Recognizing that privilege plays a major role in the success of a person is reality. What we do with that knowledge should be the topic of debate, and not the fact that it obviously exists.

It's not a privilege because his family earned it. an Advantage, sure any parent that doesn't try to give thier kid and advantage is the real villain here, not the parent who did. That's what the charged term of "privilege" tries to do. Create an original sin that there is no way to atone for for being successful. I grew up working poor, can we agree I did not enjoy privilege achieving my success? what about my friend, who happens to be black who produces people like fetty wap and the like, did he have less "privilege" than me or the same?

the whole concept is muddled because it's nonsense.

 

[GhostlyJoe]

How did this thread come to be about race? I don't see that issue brought up in the OP.

Because it could just as easily be about these guys too:

Because a lot of angry, racist conservatives post here?