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should BUsh fire Rove for leaking information about a CIA agent?
Absolutely.Should Bush fire Rove for leaking information about a CIA agent?
Alastor said:Absolutely.
What would happen to anyone else? How can you have someon as a chief advisor if they're undermining your intelligence gathering agencies and placing our people, resources and contacts in danger?
He outted Plame, and she got out. But what about the people she had contact with? Now their governments and associations know she was a spy, and anyone she had contact with is now being scrutinized intensely by opposing governments.
Plame isn't the only one that was compromised here, but all of her sources as well.
Karl Rove should be treated the same as we'd treat anyone else; like a traitor.
I don't believe that is the case. His lawyer has basically stated that he did give Plame up. Whether that is the result of his incompetence (doubtful) or as a result of an act of political retaliation (almost certainly) he has done a lot wrong. He has endangered lives, damaged the ability of our intelligence agencies to defend the country and cost millions of tax dollars. Regardless of whether it was the result of incompetence he should at the very least be fired.galenrox said:As much as I'd like to and have previously leapt to conclusions, the investigation's still going on, and any conclusions should be drawn after that's over. I'd say it's pretty likely that Rove did it, and thus should be fired, and then arrested and tried, but who knows? It is possible that he did nothing wrong!
Rove abused his access to classified information. He admitted to his lawyer that he identified the agent as Wilson's wife knowing that would be unbearable pressure on Wilson's family. He should be fired, removed from classified information access, arrested, tried, and put in prison.faminedynasty said:I don't believe that is the case. His lawyer has basically stated that he did give Plame up. Whether that is the result of his incompetence (doubtful) or as a result of an act of political retaliation (almost certainly) he has done a lot wrong. He has endangered lives, damaged the ability of our intelligence agencies to defend the country and cost millions of tax dollars. Regardless of whether it was the result of incompetence he should at the very least be fired.
Agreed. But keep in mind, Bush has not been cleared of direct involvement himself. And if a scandal goes all the way up to Rove, that's close to Bush. Some may argue above.Hoot said:He leaked Plame's name for political revenge. Bush should keep his promise and fire Rove, but since Bush has yet to keep a single promise to the American people, I'm not holding my breath.
Agreed entirely.Alex said:Rove abused his access to classified information. He admitted to his lawyer that he identified the agent as Wilson's wife knowing that would be unbearable pressure on Wilson's family. He should be fired, removed from classified information access, arrested, tried, and put in prison.
If Bush's credibility starts to get seriously damaged, I believe he'll fire whoever and whatever he has to, to keep his "good name". Of course, this kind of pressure won't come until something big enough happens that of the conservatives start questioning his decisions (I'm talking about the conservatives that never split with the president. The ones that tend not to think independantly).Hoot said:Rove had a moment of stupidity. He leaked Plame's name for political revenge. Bush should keep his promise and fire Rove, but since Bush has yet to keep a single promise to the American people, I'm not holding my breath.
Based on what? Back this up.Nemo said:Karl Rove should be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his dirty tricks.
I think this is a reference to George Tenet's medal that has been characterized as being given for his "slam dunk" statement about Iraq's WMD.alex said:Based on what? Back this up.
And here's how it ends...IValueFreedom said:As there is an ongoing investigation combined with reporter(s) concealing their sources, the general public has limited information. As such, simple logic and reasoning maxamizing the info availiable will provide the most educated guess as to Rove's culpability in the situation.
You say the public has limited information, and then go on to convict Rove only using said limited information. Why even have an investigation when they could've just asked you?IValueFreedom said:All in all.... Karl Rove = Culpable
He should be let go from the administration. Although she wasn't placed in any credible danger from having her name leaked, defaming her in order to hurt her husband is completely unacceptable and an abuse of power.
DeMaxx said:should BUsh fire Rove for leaking information about a CIA agent?
Navy Pride said:Hell no, last time I looked your innocent in this country until proven guilty although it seems Liberals would like it the other way.....
Very few people, none that I've seen are actually suggesting that Bush should fire Rove now. We (I suppose the "Liberals" you refer to), like you, aren't demanding that action should be taken immediately (I have seen some people go as far as suggest something like an administrative leave, so I guess by "action" I mean firing Rove). I think just about everyone is willing to wait for the investigation to finish before we expect any real action to be taken.Navy Pride said:Hell no, last time I looked your innocent in this country until proven guilty although it seems Liberals would like it the other way.....