Time for Straight Talk

[Conservative]

Let me know when Biden threatens an elected official to find him votes. Trump the malignant narcissist scumbag grifter and seditionist should be tried for treason.

Let me know when and how that affects you and also what harm that rhetoric did? you really have no clue as to the role of the President nor any idea what "your" President is doing to this country. What control does the President have over an elected state official. Why don't you take a civics class as well as a logic and common sense class.

 

[Conservative]

Trump tried to subvert the democratic electoral process, persecute elected officials he believed wronged him, names any media critical of him "The Enemy of the People," and leaves his VP to take his chances with a mob demanding he be hung - but it's Sleepy Joe who's the existential threat to America.

Right O, Bill O

There is no question that liberals like you have no clue as to reality and totally ignore anything that defeats your narrative. Biden is a disaster and shows what your hatred can generate. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant, Biden is in the Oval Office through the a flawed election process and 74 million Americans got it right, with much of the Biden vote hatred votes against Trump giving us Biden. Trump lost the election by about 170,000 votes in those five states that no excuse mail in ballots generated, ballots that have no legal chain of custody assurances. Oh, by the way, the country is waking up, too late but still doing it.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[Conservative]

Thought you quit DP?

Decided to stay and take a different approach in dealing with people like you but only on selected issues showing just how partisan and out of touch with reality you and other Biden supporters are. Gives me an opportunity to post like this

The Story of the Donkey and Tiger | by Adam Medaglia | Medium

The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.

When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Let me know when and how that affects you and also what harm that rhetoric did? you really have no clue as to the role of the President nor any idea what "your" President is doing to this country. What control does the President have over an elected state official. Why don't you take a civics class as well as a logic and common sense class.

So a president can threaten and or bribe elected officials to find votes and subvert elections? It effects me because the scumbag was threatening our democracy and still is with bogus fraud claims. Seems you are in need of the civics class as well as a logic class. Good luck. Still looking for Obama's birth certificate? The malignant, narcissist scumbag grifter and seditionist said it was very important.

 

[Conservative]

So a president can threaten and or bribe elected officials to find votes and subvert elections? It effects me because the scumbag was threatening our democracy and still is with bogus fraud claims. Seems you are in need of the civics class as well as a logic class. Good luck. Still looking for Obama's birth certificate? The malignant, narcissist scumbag grifter and seditionist said it was very important.

Threaten?? Words seem to matter to you whereas actions don't. Interesting how this is such an issue for you which truly is nothing more than a diversion from the failure that you helped put into the WH. Trump had no authority to do any harm thus words are hollow only political tools for civics challenged individuals who ignore the true travesty, the fact that millions of new excuser mail in ballots generated by weaponizing Covid were cast without chain of custody controls making this a tainted election that the American public is now going to pay for. Your state, your city are both fiscal and social disaster living in misery that you want to spread to the rest of the country. There is nothing in liberalism that benefits anyone but the bureaucrats that create the programs. Liberalism is a fraud as are people who support it.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Threaten?? Words seem to matter to you whereas actions don't. Interesting how this is such an issue for you which truly is nothing more than a diversion from the failure that you helped put into the WH. Trump had no authority to do any harm thus words are hollow only political tools for civics challenged individuals who ignore the true travesty, the fact that millions of new excuser mail in ballots generated by weaponizing Covid were cast without chain of custody controls making this a tainted election that the American public is now going to pay for. Your state, your city are both fiscal and social disaster living in misery that you want to spread to the rest of the country. There is nothing in liberalism that benefits anyone but the bureaucrats that create the programs. Liberalism is a fraud as are people who support it.

Well that explains everything. Lol

Go back to fascism land and take the rest of the wing nuts with you. NY continues to subsidize other mostly red states by contributing as opposed to taking net federal revenue. I hear the ivermectin is really good this time of year, that and some conservative ignorance have landed quite a few covidiots in the hospital. Enjoy!

 

[Conservative]

Well that explains everything. Lol

Go back to fascism land and take the rest of the wing nuts with you. NY continues to subsidize other mostly red states by contributing as opposed to taking net federal revenue. I hear the ivermectin is really good this time of year, that and some conservative ignorance have landed quite a few covidiots in the hospital. Enjoy!

Didn't your governor send infected seniors back to their nursing homes. Fascism? OMG, another clueless individual that doesn't see liberalism for what it is, all about power and gov't control. That is fascism. Allowing people to keep more of what they earn isn't fascism

Is this an example of a liberal education where you claim your state is subsidizing Red States?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Didn't your governor send infected seniors back to their nursing homes. Fascism? OMG, another clueless individual that doesn't see liberalism for what it is, all about power and gov't control. That is fascism. Allowing people to keep more of what they earn isn't fascism

Is this an example of a liberal education where you claim your state is subsidizing Red States?

Didn't your governor pass a law encouraging citizens to spy on their fellow citizens for monetary gain? Sounds like a bunch of Nazi cons doing their brown shirt best. Also doing wonders with the electric grid.

NY does subsidize other mostly red states by providing the federal government with more funds than they receive from it. I know it's really hard to understand. I suggest some business and government courses at a local community College to help you.

 

[MTAtech]

Let me know when and how that affects you and also what harm that rhetoric did? you really have no clue as to the role of the President nor any idea what "your" President is doing to this country. What control does the President have over an elected state official. Why don't you take a civics class as well as a logic and common sense class.

Are you really trying to argue that undermining democracy itself and trying to steal an election in which one is defeated has no consequences on the public?

Trump attempted and failed to get state officials to do his bidding. Now, Republicans all over the country are changing laws so that they can award electoral votes regardless of the popular vote in their states. That's fascism.

 

[MTAtech]

Decided to stay and take a different approach in dealing with people like you but only on selected issues showing just how partisan and out of touch with reality you and other Biden supporters are. Gives me an opportunity to post like this

The Story of the Donkey and Tiger | by Adam Medaglia | Medium

Reading your new posts, your approach is exactly the same.

 

[Conservative]

Didn't your governor pass a law encouraging citizens to spy on their fellow citizens for monetary gain? Sounds like a bunch of Nazi cons doing their brown shirt best. Also doing wonders with the electric grid.

NY does subsidize other mostly red states by providing the federal government with more funds than they receive from it. I know it's really hard to understand. I suggest some business and government courses at a local community College to help you.

What does any of that have to do with the FIT that people in your state pay vs the federal mandates going back to the states? You really love to divert from the failure that you supported don't you, wonder why?

You have no idea what taxes you pay or their purpose, nor do you understand the difference between Federal Income taxes and federal mandates. Are there any Democrats in Red states receiving federal mandates?

I suggest before telling someone else to get an education you better seek one for yourself. Federal mandates or dollars going back to the states have nothing to do with federal income taxes collected from the citizens of the state on income earned. Any idea what FIT funds?

 

[Conservative]

Are you really trying to argue that undermining democracy itself and trying to steal an election in which one is defeated has no consequences on the public?

Trump attempted and failed to get state officials to do his bidding. Now, Republicans all over the country are changing laws so that they can award electoral votes regardless of the popular vote in their states. That's fascism.

Your definition of democracy and mine are quite different, yours comes with no responsibility, mine comes with responsibility. You hated Trump so much you shouldn't need a no excuse mail in ballot to cast. There is no chain of custody security for a mail in ballot and the reality is if you cannot get to the polls during early voting, on election day, or qualify for an official absentee ballot then your vote shouldn't be counted, that is reality and responsibility.

Trump's requests were irrelevant as he had no authority to create harm from that request. You love diverting from the failures that we are seeing today that you helped put into the WH all out of hatred and ignorance.

 

[Lycanthrope]

There is no question that liberals like you have no clue as to reality and totally ignore anything that defeats your narrative. Biden is a disaster and shows what your hatred can generate. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant, Biden is in the Oval Office through the a flawed election process and 74 million Americans got it right, with much of the Biden vote hatred votes against Trump giving us Biden. Trump lost the election by about 170,000 votes in those five states that no excuse mail in ballots generated, ballots that have no legal chain of custody assurances. Oh, by the way, the country is waking up, too late but still doing it.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

There is no question that Trump supporters like you have displayed more loyalty towards your man than to democracy.

Is Biden flawed? Most definitely. Still believe he was necessary, in order to remove a dangerous, mendacious, despotic man from the White House. When 2024 comes along, Americans may well choose to remove Biden the same way they did Trump (assuming Biden even runs again). You may well continue to embrace Trump's election lies for the rest of your life; my only desire is to see American democracy roll on as you do.

 

[Conservative]

There is no question that Trump supporters like you have displayed more loyalty towards your man than to democracy.

Is Biden flawed? Most definitely. Still believe he was necessary, in order to remove a dangerous, mendacious, despotic man from the White House. When 2024 comes along, Americans may well choose to remove Biden the same way they did Trump (assuming Biden even runs again). You may well continue to embrace Trump's election lies for the rest of your life; my only desire is to see American democracy roll on as you do.

Right, loyalty to personal responsibility, to America First foreign policies, and the JFK philosophy of "ask not what your country can do for you" which doesn't exist in your party today. Your idea of dangerous, mendacious, despotic ignores reality and actual verifiable results as you focus solely on personality. How exactly did Trump hurt you, your family, or the country? Come to TX and see how Biden is hurting us here? Oh, by the way I got my first vaccine shot on January 6 thanks to Project Warp Speed.

I suggest paying less attention to biased partisan media hate rhetoric and get the facts

 

[ElChupacabra]

Thought you quit DP?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Reading your new posts, your approach is exactly the same.

Of course what's pretty funny is the parable he keeps repeating doesn't really make sense in the way he's using it. If he thinks he's the tiger, and every one else is the donkey, we're not even graced with the punishment the lion dealt the tiger: 5 years of silence.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Right, loyalty to personal responsibility, to America First foreign policies, and the JFK philosophy of "ask not what your country can do for you" which doesn't exist in your party today. Your idea of dangerous, mendacious, despotic ignores reality and actual verifiable results as you focus solely on personality. How exactly did Trump hurt you, your family, or the country? Come to TX and see how Biden is hurting us here? Oh, by the way I got my first vaccine shot on January 6 thanks to Project Warp Speed.

I suggest paying less attention to biased partisan media hate rhetoric and get the facts

The very fact that Trump supporters like you do not see that Trump not only fails to embody these traits you laud, he openly defies them for his own personal gain is testament to the fact that your loyalties are twisted. I remain fascinated how his con job continues to hold sway over you (collective) because there was never anything deceptive or clever about his lying, cheating, and emotional instability.

If you cannot see how that is a dangerous cocktail of traits for the leader of this nation to have, if you think that's just me disliking him personally, then I can't help you. If you cannot see how Trump sabotaged our initial response to the COVID pandemic, if you cannot see how he subverted the electoral process, if you cannot see how he encouraged the January 6th insurrection and stood by pouting about his loss while Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and called for Mike Pence to be hung, and all of that being directly related to those traits he embodies, then I can't help you.

Conservatives used to proclaim piously that "CHARACTER MATTERS" when Clinton was in the White House; they lost their way since then by adopting the mantra "the end justifies the means." They have lost all credibility in joining ranks with/kowtowing to Trump supporters like you.

You talk of partisan bias? Remove the beam from your own eye before self-righteously pointing out motes in the eyes of others. I will happily see Biden voted out in 2024 if a better option comes along - that's the extent of my loyalty to the man himself. You continue to rage that your beloved leader was "cheated" nearly a full year after the majority of Americans who voted removed him from office.

I am glad you received the vaccine - I don't give a damn who gets credit for its development, I simply want people to stop buying into all the bullshit surrounding it and to do their part protect themselves, their families, and their communities. This pandemic will not abate until we join together as Americans to defeat it, the same way the Greatest Generation dropped their individualism, put their countrymen and their nation first, and worked as a collective to defeat Nazism.

 

[Conservative]

The very fact that Trump supporters like you do not see that Trump not only fails to embody these traits you laud, he openly defies them for his own personal gain is testament to the fact that your loyalties are twisted. I remain fascinated how his con job continues to hold sway over you (collective) because there was never anything deceptive or clever about his lying, cheating, and emotional instability.

If you cannot see how that is a dangerous cocktail of traits for the leader of this nation to have, if you think that's just me disliking him personally, then I can't help you. If you cannot see how Trump sabotaged our initial response to the COVID pandemic, if you cannot see how he subverted the electoral process, if you cannot see how he encouraged the January 6th insurrection and stood by pouting about his loss while Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and called for Mike Pence to be hung, and all of that being directly related to those traits he embodies, then I can't help you.

Conservatives used to proclaim piously that "CHARACTER MATTERS" when Clinton was in the White House; they lost their way since then by adopting the mantra "the end justifies the means." They have lost all credibility in joining ranks with/kowtowing to Trump supporters like you.

You talk of partisan bias? Remove the beam from your own eye before self-righteously pointing out motes in the eyes of others. I will happily see Biden voted out in 2024 if a better option comes along - that's the extent of my loyalty to the man himself. You continue to rage that your beloved leader was "cheated" nearly a full year after the majority of Americans who voted removed him from office.

I am glad you received the vaccine - I don't give a damn who gets credit for its development, I simply want people to stop buying into all the bullshit surrounding it and to do their part protect themselves, their families, and their communities. This pandemic will not abate until we join together as Americans to defeat it, the same way the Greatest Generation dropped their individualism, put their countrymen and their nation first, and worked as a collective to defeat Nazism.

In the real world results trump personality but not in your fantasy world. Your hatred of Trump gave us Biden and taxpayers are now paying for that mistake. You buy rhetoric and completely ignore the Constitution, personal responsibilities, and the role of the state and local govt always blaming someone else for your own personal mistakes.

Character does matter and you sure elected two characters who are both incompetent, dangerous, radical. My partisanship exists with regards to results not rhetoric. I was a JFK Democrat and probably have voted for more Democrats than you ever have voted for Republicans. Today's Democratic Party has been radicalized creating dependence and that massive central gov't our Founders warned against. You going to explain exactly which Trump policies affected you and hurt you?

why don't you tell us exactly how people keeping more of what they earn, spending on charities and personal responsibility issues is anti American? Why don't you explain to us exactly how Biden is upholding his oath by providing for the Common defense? Explain to us what taxes you pay and their purpose and why we need a 3.5 trillion dollar infrastructure bill when much of infrastructure is funded by state and local taxes?

As for the vaccine, what bullshit? For someone and a party that always seems to concern about what goes into your body this seems to not exist today. How do you know what young people are putting into their body with the vaccine? The way gov't controls people is to scare the hell out of them and then buying their votes, is that the gov't our Founders created?

 

[MTAtech]

Your definition of democracy and mine are quite different, yours comes with no responsibility, mine comes with responsibility. You hated Trump so much you shouldn't need a no excuse mail in ballot to cast. There is no chain of custody security for a mail in ballot and the reality is if you cannot get to the polls during early voting, on election day, or qualify for an official absentee ballot then your vote shouldn't be counted, that is reality and responsibility.

Trump's requests were irrelevant as he had no authority to create harm from that request. You love diverting from the failures that we are seeing today that you helped put into the WH all out of hatred and ignorance.

My definition of democracy is that the people choose the leaders and not the person holding the office strong-arms, threatens and pleads to "find me the votes" so that he wins. Trump did just that and it's illegal.

Whatever you think about mail-in ballots is moot and irrelevant. States have them and the claims made by team Trump had been adjudicated in courts. In any case, your view of mail-in ballots doesn't justify Trump bulling state officials into overturning the election. Trump's tactics were fascist and you pray at the Trump temple. So whatever he does, no matter how undemocratic, unethical and illegal, is just fine with you.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Whatever you think about mail-in ballots is moot and irrelevant. States have them and the claims made by team Trump had been adjudicated in courts. In any case, your view of mail-in ballots doesn't justify Trump bulling state officials into overturning the election. Trump's tactics were fascist and you pray at the Trump temple. So whatever he does, no matter how undemocratic, unethical and illegal, is just fine with you.

It is astounding, the control Trump has over the hearts and minds of his followers. Even now.

 

[Conservative]

My definition of democracy is that the people choose the leaders and not the person holding the office strong-arms, threatens and pleads to "find me the votes" so that he wins. Trump did just that and it's illegal.

Whatever you think about mail-in ballots is moot and irrelevant. States have them and the claims made by team Trump had been adjudicated in courts. In any case, your view of mail-in ballots doesn't justify Trump bulling state officials into overturning the election. Trump's tactics were fascist and you pray at the Trump temple. So whatever he does, no matter how undemocratic, unethical and illegal, is just fine with you.

So got it, anyone living in this country is allowed to cast a vote regardless of their legal status and what really matters is personality and perception not results and policies? What you think about mail in ballots is really the problem, very naive, gullible and very poorly informed. How do you know that a mail in ballot was cast by the legal registered voter? You don't nor do you care as long as you get the results you wanted.

I have yet to see any liberal or you tell us what Trump policies hurt you focused solely on his rhetoric and his personality, why is that? You ever going to tell us why Biden was a better choice and what policies he is implementing that meets his constitutional requirements for providing for the common defense and promoting domestic welfare?

 

[Conservative]

It is astounding, the control Trump has over the hearts and minds of his followers. Even now.

What you continue to show is results don't matter, policies don't matter, perception and personality do. Have you ever held a private sector job?

 

[MTAtech]

So got it, anyone living in this country is allowed to cast a vote regardless of their legal status and what really matters is personality and perception not results and policies? What you think about mail in ballots is really the problem, very naive, gullible and very poorly informed. How do you know that a mail in ballot was cast by the legal registered voter? You don't nor do you care as long as you get the results you wanted.

I have yet to see any liberal or you tell us what Trump policies hurt you focused solely on his rhetoric and his personality, why is that? You ever going to tell us why Biden was a better choice and what policies he is implementing that meets his constitutional requirements for providing for the common defense and promoting domestic welfare?

I didn't say "anyone living in this country is allowed to cast a vote regardless of their legal status." That's you dishonestly putting words in my mouth.
The reason why people vote for who they vote for is up to those people and not subject to your validity of their vote.
As for results and Trump policies, I can think of 650,000 Americans who have been hurt by Trump's policies.

 

[Conservative]

I didn't say "anyone living in this country is allowed to cast a vote regardless of their legal status." That's you dishonestly putting words in my mouth.
The reason why people vote for who they vote for is up to those people and not subject to your validity of their vote.
As for results and Trump policies, I can think of 650,000 Americans who have been hurt by Trump's policies.

Noticed you never answered the question about chain of custody, how do you know mail in ballots were actually cast by the registered voters and why doesn't that matter? Tell me why Americans shouldn't go to the polls for early voting, on election day or registering for a QUALIFIED absentee ballot? Worked for decades but not now, WHY?

Tell me exactly how 650,000 Americans were hurt by Trump policies? Have you ever taken a civics class?? You have no idea the role of the Federal, state, and local governments nor what the Constitution says about personal responsibility and federal issues. you keep buying the liberal rhetoric and keep running from the tough questions.

650,000 Americans out of 330,000,000 million failed to take personal responsibility for their own actions with many of them seniors sent back to their nursing homes due to poor state leadership, why do you blame that on the President? Why don't you tell us exactly what power the President has to mandate social distancing, wearing masks, quarantines, and vaccinations? Does the Bill of Rights not resonate with you?

 

[Conservative]

I didn't say "anyone living in this country is allowed to cast a vote regardless of their legal status." That's you dishonestly putting words in my mouth.
The reason why people vote for who they vote for is up to those people and not subject to your validity of their vote.
As for results and Trump policies, I can think of 650,000 Americans who have been hurt by Trump's policies.

Do you have any idea or do you care what you put into your body or what is being put into the body of grandchildren, your children, or child bearing women? You always said follow the science but apparently that only is in regard to scientists and doctors that promote the liberal agenda not those who destroy that liberal narrative. I am way too old to worry about this for me but do care about my grandkids, any idea what the recovery rate is for younger people getting Covid or do you even care?

https://dangerousmedicine.com/2021-09-29-aerospace-medicine-specialist-ground-vaxxed-pilots.html