TIME explains how the 2020 election was manipulated

[mike2810]

Because organizing a group of people, even people in the media is not the same thing as a candidate taking money donated to his campaign and using it to pay hush money to someone. It's embarrassing I have to explain that to you.

sigh.
You should be embarrassed.

Guess you wanted people to read your mind. Thanks for the response.

 

[Lisa]

Hi long will it take for their sore loser attitude to lessen?

They still worship senile Reagan who blew up the budget, so more than 30 years.............

 

[Master Debator]

sigh.
You should be embarrassed.

Guess you wanted people to read your mind. Thanks for the response.

None of that required telepathy.

 

[Master Debator]

Manipulation is manipulation whether the idea is to encourage votes one way or the other. The TIME article is quite clear that the alliance between the AFL-CIO and USCOC was for the purpose of preventing Trump from getting elected.

And?

 

[Lutherf]

Why is Lutherf post wrong? Explain.

For the same reason that paying Russians for dirt on an opposing candidate isn't the same as paying your lawyer to pay someone else to pay the Russians, apparently. That's especially the case if you're paying your lawyer to pay the guy to pay some Russian to give him the information that you actually gave the Russians so that they could give it to you.

 

[Slartibartfast]

https://time.com/5936036/secret-202..._term=politics_2020-election&linkId=110717147



While TIME couches this coordinated effort in terms of "saving democracy" it might be wise to consider that a group of media, political and corporate entities seeking to combine their resources for the purpose of swaying an election one way or another isn't exactly "democracy". If the Russians, for example, had done this it would have been considered to be an act of war. If the Republicans had combined resources to conspire in this way they may well have been considered "domestic terrorists".

I just want everyone to read this paragraph and pay special attention to the part I put in bold -


If Democracy isn't self-executing and the "proper outcome" is predetermined then we really don't have democracy.

Welcome to the brave new world.

Your post is a great example of trying to find an issue in what times shows as exemplary processes. Literally everything you quoted is an example of a well functioning democracy.

 

[Master Debator]

For the same reason that paying Russians for dirt on an opposing candidate isn't the same as paying your lawyer to pay someone else to pay the Russians, apparently. That's especially the case if you're paying your lawyer to pay the guy to pay some Russian to give him the information that you actually gave the Russians so that they could give it to you.

Nope! Wrong again. Man you're bad at this.

 

[rickc]

The battle between Republican Voter Suppression and Democrats get out the vote.

Seems the more people vote the less likely Republicans are to win.

So it is cheating to make it easier for Americans to vote. So democratic of the Republicans.

 

[Buckeyes85]

Your post is a great example of trying to find an issue in what times shows as exemplary processes. Literally everything you quoted is an example of a well functioning democracy.

Yea, the article was about getting people registered to vote and preventing voter suppression efforts. I guess in his mind the fact that groups of people coordinated to reach the just result, their efforts had to be nefarious? Nothing in the article suggests any thing of the kind.

 

[CaughtInThe]

man, the OP is still in massive denial.

 

[watsup]

man, the OP is still in massive denial.

Sore losers.

 

[Lisa]

Yea, the article was about getting people registered to vote and preventing voter suppression efforts. I guess in his mind the fact that groups of people coordinated to reach the just result, their efforts had to be nefarious? Nothing in the article suggests any thing of the kind.

We need to enact vote-by-mail in all 50 states.

 

[narrowroad]

i copied the OP to read later

but i have been studying the election fraud story ever since Nov 3

what happened is the same thing that happens in Venezuela and other countries to keep a dictator in power while making it look like he is properly elected

massively disgusting... the end of our Republic

Jesus Christ... maybe it's time to come again to this sold out to the devil world...

 

[narrowroad]

You know who to thank for this? Obama and Eric Holder somwhat quietly spent the last four years building up the voting rights superstructure. Stacey Abrams also deserves a lot of credit. The Republicans, of course, are now going to dedicate themselves to tearing it down.

i certainly hope so... if you are talking about tearing down the corrupt system...

that needs to be priority

 

[TheParser]

https://time.com/5936036/secret-202..._term=politics_2020-election&linkId=110717147



While TIME couches this coordinated effort in terms of "saving democracy" it might be wise to consider that a group of media, political and corporate entities seeking to combine their resources for the purpose of swaying an election one way or another isn't exactly "democracy". If the Russians, for example, had done this it would have been considered to be an act of war. If the Republicans had combined resources to conspire in this way they may well have been considered "domestic terrorists".

I just want everyone to read this paragraph and pay special attention to the part I put in bold -


If Democracy isn't self-executing and the "proper outcome" is predetermined then we really don't have democracy.

Welcome to the brave new world.

Oh, yes!

The liberal media did an excellent job for four years in demonizing President Trump, and it paid off big on November 3.

I am sure that some of those 80,000,000 people who supposedly voted for the man from Delaware will find that some of that man's policies will bite them in the posterior. I hope that they will have the good grace to keep from complaining. One reaps what one sows.

 

[Lutherf]

Oh, yes!

The liberal media did an excellent job for four years in demonizing President Trump, and it paid off big on November 3.

I am sure that some of those 80,000,000 people who supposedly voted for the man from Delaware will find that some of that man's policies will bite them in the posterior. I hope that they will have the good grace to keep from complaining. One reaps what one sows.

I suspect that a whole lot of those 80 million couldn't pick him out of a lineup.

 

[Master Debator]

I suspect that a whole lot of those 80 million couldn't pick him out of a lineup.

Please, share more of hurt feelings.

 

[Lisa]

I suspect that a whole lot of those 80 million couldn't pick him out of a lineup.

Where do you get the idea that people who voted for Joe Biden don't know what he looks like? They know what his policies are because theey voted for him.

 

[jnug]

https://time.com/5936036/secret-202..._term=politics_2020-election&linkId=110717147



While TIME couches this coordinated effort in terms of "saving democracy" it might be wise to consider that a group of media, political and corporate entities seeking to combine their resources for the purpose of swaying an election one way or another isn't exactly "democracy". If the Russians, for example, had done this it would have been considered to be an act of war. If the Republicans had combined resources to conspire in this way they may well have been considered "domestic terrorists".

I just want everyone to read this paragraph and pay special attention to the part I put in bold -


If Democracy isn't self-executing and the "proper outcome" is predetermined then we really don't have democracy.

Welcome to the brave new world.

Actually it is democracy in a Republic with a Capitalist financial and economic system. UNBELIEVABLE.....just unbelievable.

Let us know when they report the inclusion of some maligned foreign interference and you might have something to discuss.

 

[Buckeyes85]

Oh, yes!

The liberal media did an excellent job for four years in demonizing President Trump, and it paid off big on November 3.

I am sure that some of those 80,000,000 people who supposedly voted for the man from Delaware will find that some of that man's policies will bite them in the posterior. I hope that they will have the good grace to keep from complaining. One reaps what one sows.

More Trump denialism.
Start with the fact that many/most americans had a very bad impression of Trump before he ever rode down the golden escalator to destiny.
He was already known to be an outrageous liar, arrogant conman and inveterate womanizer. That didn't just become known in 2015. And then he went about doing everything to confirm those pre conceived notions. Then set about politicizing every branch of our government to do his personal bidding. He deserved every bit of bad press he got worldwide. And then some.

 

[Rexedgar]

The OP posts so often with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek that it is difficult to know when his posts are serious..

It would seem that Trump was out Kushnered in 2020.

Hoist on his own petard, as it were.

Jared Kushner took a very Silicon Valley approach to running the Trump campaign

Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, was responsible for modernizing the Trump campaign — so he asked for help from Silicon Valley to do it.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[TheParser]

I suspect that a whole lot of those 80 million couldn't pick him out of a lineup.

Excellent point.

Probably a lot of people were just handed a ballot and requested to fill in a certain circle. "No need to vote for the other offices," they were told in their first language.

 

[Lutherf]

Excellent point.

Probably a lot of people were just handed a ballot and requested to fill in a certain circle. "No need to vote for the other offices," they were told in their first language.

Right. You get a ballot, a pen, $20 and a promise to not kill your kid when he or she is walking home from school and it's all good.

 

[Craig234]

The liberal media did an excellent job for four years in demonizing President Trump, and it paid off big on November 3.

aka 'telling the truth about trump demonizes trump'. The problem there is trump, not the media.

I am sure that some of those 80,000,000 people who supposedly voted for the man from Delaware will find that some of that man's policies will bite them in the posterior. I hope that they will have the good grace to keep from complaining. One reaps what one sows.

If Biden doesn't nuke the country, he'll be an improvement. We have every right to complain if he does things we don't like. So far, not an issue. Switching sides to be against the virus, fixing our foreign policy, uncorrupted competent government, etc.

 

[Craig234]

OP is nonsense. OP's basic argument is, 'people who work to make democracy function, to help people vote, result in Democrats doing better, so they're partisan operatives destroying democracy, which is defined as Republicans winning by preventing people voting'.