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Oh brother. If you still believe that Kerry's intent was to call the troops dumb, I feel sorry for you.
Kerry calling the troops dumb isn't a problem but this is? When Bush messes up nuclear he's a retard. When he messes up democratic he's a shifty little bastard. I can't decide whether Democrats underestimate or overestimate Bush sometimes.
no argument presented here. why bother to post?This is so ridiculous, I can't tell if you are actually being serious or not. Surely not. In any case, I sincerely hope not.
Oh brother. If you still believe that Kerry's intent was to call the troops dumb, I feel sorry for you.
The word itself ("Democrat") has unpleasant connotations and associations. It sounds like "crap". Also like "rat".
Perhaps they should just change the name altogether.
Calling Republicans "Republics" isn't comparable.
Neither the word Republican nor the word Republic has the same negative resonance to it.
actually, it isn't. so, um, you don't have a point. If you believe this, then you've heard it used by anti-Democratic party propagandists. "their label" is "democratic party." in other words, your parroting.
the whole rub, the one being denied by all the Repugs in here, is that when the "Democrat party" perjorative is used, the implication is that the Democrats are not "democratic."
If a Republican't were to say "Democratic majority," it would sound like s/he were talking about a bunch of people that loved democracy or that were upholders of democracy. we can't have that can we? So s/he doesn't, s/he'll say "Democrat majority."
I suppose this in and of itself isn't such a big deal, but it is a big deal when an entity isn't referred to by its name. "The Democratic Party."
I've never heard of them refered to as the Democratics..."Oh joy, the Democratics are back in power". The term they use in that instance is "Democrat". As such, if it is the party...of Democrats...I don't see the huge rub or deal with it being called the "Democrat Party"...IE, party of democrats.
I also don't get your "if you don't use 'democratic' you're trying to say they're not democratic." arguement. Honestly, that's like saying "Because you're wanting to call them the Democratic Party you're trying to call anyone that's NOT in their party nont democratic". Both of these things are a bit ludicrous.
It really seems like a much to do about nothing. Repug's annoy me a bit, Republican't annoys me a bit...why? Because they're blatant reworks simply to insult. Democrat isn't. If an idiot republican went "hehe, the DemocRAT party" then i'd tell them they're being asinine and immature as well. Doing that is stupid, but I don't see the insult there. Calling them Democrat party every time just to annoy them...stupid. Calling it that becuase that's what rolls off your tongue becuase they're Democrat's, fine. Its just that some people like to bitch and have to make themselves victims at all times.
Zyphlin said:Um. Read my post before making an asinine comment. The majority of people I've ever heard talk have said the Republicans and Democrats. I've never heard of them refered to as the Democratics..."Oh joy, the Democratics are back in power". The term they use in that instance is "Democrat". As such, if it is the party...of Democrats...I don't see the huge rub or deal with it being called the "Democrat Party"...IE, party of democrats.
I also don't get your "if you don't use 'democratic' you're trying to say they're not democratic." arguement. Honestly, that's like saying "Because you're wanting to call them the Democratic Party you're trying to call anyone that's NOT in their party nont democratic". Both of these things are a bit ludicrous.
It really seems like a much to do about nothing. Repug's annoy me a bit, Republican't annoys me a bit...why? Because they're blatant reworks simply to insult. Democrat isn't. If an idiot republican went "hehe, the DemocRAT party" then i'd tell them they're being asinine and immature as well. Doing that is stupid, but I don't see the insult there. Calling them Democrat party every time just to annoy them...stupid. Calling it that becuase that's what rolls off your tongue becuase they're Democrat's, fine. Its just that some people like to bitch and have to make themselves victims at all times.
Zyphlin said:Calling them Democrat party every time just to annoy them...stupid.
This entire post is an admittance of what Zyphlin doesn't understand. Anecdotal evidence. Etc.
"The Democrat Party" is not what "The Democratic Party" is called. Unless, that is, one endeavors to call them something other than their name.
???CurrentAffairs said:With all the fish the Democrat party has the opportunity to fry right now, you've picked a strange one.
Everyone reasonable that I know has acknowledged that both instances you're speaking about were stupid things to say. so, I believe you're correct to compare both as such. the difference is that Kerry said something that was true, and Bush, again, has made something up.
yep, you should get over it when someone says something that is true, and you should bemoan the fact that the POTUS can't read and/or has no learning curve, and/or is nothing more than a far-right wing propandist mouthpiece.
Just look at this thread and the plethora of non-arguments made here!
"You've picked a strange fish to fry"
"I don't see what the big deal is"
"The jealous haters are the only ones who care about this"
"And if you think Bush's intent was to bug the Democrats I feel sorry for you"
"This is so ridiculous, I can't tell if you are actually being serious or not. Surely not. In any case, I sincerely hope not"
"I think anyone who belongs to the Democrat party and finds this offensive needs to get a life"
"the pantie waist liberals looking for something else to whine about"
"I am unable to understand what if any is the importance of this"
FierceEnigma12z said:I'm sorry what exactly did he "make up"?
LOL! Yeah, more than one right-winger has come along making the same partisan non-argument, in the same thread, on a debate website. Real helpful.CurrentAffairs said:"If more than one has told you you're sick, lie down."
He'd say, "Looky there, some people agree with the President and some don't. It's a tough and thankless job, but someone's got to do it."What would dad say about this:
Poll: Majority Says Bush Is Weak And Wrong | TPMCafe
Sounds like Dad favors impeachment, too.
Oh, well then we agree. Your post was illogical and pointless.the point is, the quote is an appeal to numbers. like all the other non-arguments I listed, it's illogical and it's pointless.
Alrighty then, CurlySpentAffHair. please tell FeerzEnigma, Zonklin, and the CreamMaster that I finally get it. It's just not that big a deal to call someone or something by the wrong name.CurrentAffairs said:Oh, well then we agree. Your post was illogical and pointless.
I'm not sure I understand. Did someone call you by the wrong name?Alrighty then, CurlySpentAffHair. please tell FeerzEnigma, Zonklin, and the CreamMaster that I finally get it. It's just not that big a deal to call someone or something by the wrong name.
Everyone reasonable that I know has acknowledged that both instances you're speaking about were stupid things to say. so, I believe you're correct to compare both as such. the difference is that Kerry said something that was true, and Bush, again, has made something up.
yep, you should get over it when someone says something that is true, and you should bemoan the fact that the POTUS can't read and/or has no learning curve, and/or is nothing more than a far-right wing propandist mouthpiece.
Oh brother. If you still believe that Kerry's intent was to call the troops dumb, I feel sorry for you.
This entire post is an admittance of what Zyphlin doesn't understand. Anecdotal evidence. Etc.
"The Democrat Party" is not what "The Democratic Party" is called. Unless, that is, one endeavors to call them something other than their name. This is what you don't get, or can't see, or apparently have never heard, Zyphlin.
Agreed.
It isn't, unless you're a democrat and choose to be insulted by it.YES, its called the "Democratic Party" HOWEVER, individual people are refered to as a "Democrat". Therefore, I don't see where it is somekind of gigantic, horrendous, horrible type of insult to refer to the party, full of Democrats, as the democrat party. .
Zyphylin, wow, indeed.Zyphlin said:WOW...are you a professional spin doctor, because you're good at it.
Dude, you are hilarious! read my posts, why don'tcha?! Count the number of times you've used the word "insult" in this thread. Now count the number of times I've used it: Zero.Zyphlin said:READ MY POSTS, or stop trying to , it gets annoying. I'm not hiding my words.
Now we're getting somewhere.Zyphlin said:YES, its called the "Democratic Party"
Yes, of course. So, as you have just so generously pointed out, "Democratic Party" are more than one person. "Democrat" is one person. Use of the term "Democrat" to refer to more than one person is wrong. Thanks for making that point for me.Zyphlin said:HOWEVER, individual people are refered to as a "Democrat"
Whoa, hold them doggies. Did I ever say "insult?" I never have. And you are talking to me, right? Good. I said it was wrong. I said Bush could change the tone by referring to people by their name, by what they are called. It's bad, disrespectful, because it's wrong. Did I say "insult"? Dude, read my posts! It gets real annoying.Zyphlin said:Therefore, I don't see where it is somekind of gigantic, horrendous, horrible type of insult to refer to the party, full of Democrats, as the democrat party.
Ditto. Uh, but, as you illustrated, your point is in fact something I never said, and you've helped make my point for me.Zyphlin said:Why is my point so hard to understand that you've now made 2 posts about it that don't in any way address what I was ACTUALLY saying.
Bush has done it continually. It started recently. The perjorative "Democrat Party" has caught on. and Bush has started using it. search the White House website. and by the way, there you go again with your term, "insult," three more times! The one I never used.Zyphlin said:There is a difference between calling someone something simply because that's what pops up into your head when you think of it, and without any intended insult...and doing something to insult someone. Personally, I don't see where the Insult is there. It seems like a tiny pointless little thing that a bunch of people are wanting to get riled up about just to keep making themselves feel like victims.
non-argumentZyphlin said:As far as your link goes and acting like that somehow proves you case...
I don't care about what I honestly believe and neither should you. just tell me, why am I wrong?Zyphlin said:well, if you honestly believe that I suggest having some things checked out.
LOL! hypersensitive is one those .... exaggerations. I take exception to calling anything by the wrong name. don't you, Zyph-lip?Zyphlin said:While you may be hyper sensitive and take something so benign as calling the party of democrats the democrat party,
...and I said this when? please, read my posts. it gets annoying.Zyphlin said:doesn't mean that someone using it is doing it for the soul reason or for the purpose of annoying or insulting.
...constantly. over and over. but only since the Republic Party started losing.Zyphlin said:It could just very well be the way his speech works and how it goes in his head.
That would be wrong too.Zyphlin said:If it was "The Democrackheads Party", then sure...agree with you fully.
Okeedoke, Zyphl. and best of luck to you and the Raw-pube-lickin' Party in 2008.Zyphlin said:However, I don't see the harm in this one other then you just enjoying to have a victim complex.
Okeedoke, Zyphl. and best of luck to you and the Raw-pube-lickin' Party in 2008.
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