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Three Trump codefendants say they became false electors at Trump’s ‘direction’

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Three Georgia Republicans who falsely claimed to be electors for Donald Trump — and are now charged alongside him in a sprawling racketeering indictment brought by local prosecutors — say they took the steps they did because Trump, then the sitting president, told them to.
In a series of court filings this week, those false electors, who became part of Trump’s last-ditch bid to subvert the 2020 election, said it was Trump and his campaign lawyers who urged them to sign the false documents, claiming they were necessary to preserve Trump’s flailing court efforts to reverse his defeat to Joe Biden. That exhortation from Trump’s campaign lawyers, they said, amounted to federal government permission to take the actions they did.
Associate with Donald Trump and bad things happen, you get charged with racketeering and forgery.
 
And we are surprised exactly... why?

As in, did someone out there think these fake electors just meandered into the equation out of spontaneity? Of course it was coordinated, and by Trump with his inner circle of enablers, suggesting RICO.
 
Michael Cohen committed crimes with trump's sex partners at the direction of trump, and was convicted and imprisoned years ago and trump hasn't been held accountable yet.
 
And we are surprised exactly... why?

As in, did someone out there think these fake electors just meandered into the equation out of spontaneity? Of course it was coordinated, and by Trump with his inner circle of enablers, suggesting RICO.

There is a pattern in Trump's corrupt escapades of witnesses refusing to cooperate with investigations. So this is noteworthy.
 
There is a pattern in Trump's corrupt escapades of witnesses refusing to cooperate with investigations. So this is noteworthy.

I did not say it was not noteworthy now did I?

I said it is not surprising, and all things considered the information these three fake electors are saying *is already* a core part of the case against Trump. I would go so far as to say the reason we are hearing about this is the possibility of codefendants flipping.
 
They are lying.
 



Associate with Donald Trump and bad things happen, you get charged with racketeering and forgery.
If they don't have some actual evidence...their word won't cut it...they can say whatever they want and nothing will happen to Trump.
 
Many of the charged Georgia GOP "fake electors" held a closed meeting in the state Capital which was penetrated by Georgia journalist (George Chidi) who recorded much of it on his cell phone before being discovered and removed.

During the meeting, these defendents (David Shafer et. al.) never mentioned being ordered to do this by Trump. They only talked about how they could pull this off without anyone noticing until it was too late.
 
These three are saying "Trump made me do it" and several more flipped earlier in return for total immunity. Methinks there are going to be a lot of people involved in this implicating him instead of defending him.
 
During the meeting, these defendents (David Shafer et. al.) never mentioned being ordered to do this by Trump. They only talked about how they could pull this off without anyone noticing until it was too late.

If they were at the meeting because they had been asked to by trump and his lawyers, why would they need to say that in the meeting? If I ask you to go to the store and pick up milk, do you tell the cashier you are buying the milk because I asked you to?
 
And we are surprised exactly... why?

As in, did someone out there think these fake electors just meandered into the equation out of spontaneity? Of course it was coordinated, and by Trump with his inner circle of enablers, suggesting RICO.
If anything we are surprised at how quickly the whole Trump gang started coming apart at the seams.

"I want an expedited trial date!" Not good for Donnie

"Donnie made us do it!" Not good for Donnie
 
If anything we are surprised at how quickly the whole Trump gang started coming apart at the seams.

"I want an expedited trial date!" Not good for Donnie

"Donnie made us do it!" Not good for Donnie

I tend to go the other way on this, not surprised since we do have a handful of people who are seeing the results of going all in supporting Trump only to have their lives forever changed. Hence, how often I say something to the effect of "throwing their careers, if not lives, away at the alter of Trump." The raw number of people involved must have some impact on these guys facing real jailtime.

Happy to admit, and I have often, that I am very skeptical these days of convictions and/or implications preventing Trump from doing what he does. Would be nice to see someone held accountable for the damage done to this nation, but I have my doubts.

Regardless, I agree none of this is good for ole' Donnie and he is going to need an awful lot more orange makeup for his court appearances facing what seems to be people flipping in order to salvage their futures.
 
These three are saying "Trump made me do it" and several more flipped earlier in return for total immunity. Methinks there are going to be a lot of people involved in this implicating him instead of defending him.
I get the feeling this might be the case as well, and probably because if the feel Trump may not fare well out of all this, they'd rather save themselves than risk jail time.
 
If they don't have some actual evidence...their word won't cut it...they can say whatever they want and nothing will happen to Trump.
Exactly.

They had better produce some physical evidence of Trump conspiring with them to do this. If they cannot, Trump will skate on these conspiracy charges.

Many J6 rioters claimed that Trump compelled them to raid the Capitol, but when asked to provide show evidence that Trump told them to do it, none of them could, because Trump never asked or told them to.

So they went to jail.

I hope these fake electors go to jail for falsely implicating Trump for THEIR misdeeds.
 
Exactly.

They had better produce some physical evidence of Trump conspiring with them to do this. If they cannot, Trump will skate on these conspiracy charges.
Ahh....its a RICO case. Learn what RICO prosecutions require before you blather off into outer space. Besides there already is evidence of Trump's direct participation in the scheme.
Many J6 rioters claimed that Trump compelled them to raid the Capitol, but when asked to show evidence that Trump told them to do it, none of them could, of course, because Trump never asked or told them to.

So they went to jail.

L hope these fake electors go to jail for trying to implicate Trump.
HOPE.....why am I not surprised. They were heroes to the Right UNTIL.....they flipped on Donnie.
 
Ahh....its a RICO case. Learn what RICO prosecutions require before you blather off into outer space.
LOL. RICO prosecutions still require evidence.
Besides there already is evidence of Trump's direct participation in the scheme.
There isn't. It's just testimony by liars. The prosecution will need to show actual evidence - an ad, an e-mail, a blog, a video, etc. . .

If they cannot, a jury is compelled to find the defendant NOT GUILTY.
 
Ahh....its a RICO case. Learn what RICO prosecutions require before you blather off into outer space. Besides there already is evidence of Trump's direct participation in the scheme.

HOPE.....why am I not surprised. They were heroes to the Right UNTIL.....they flipped on Donnie.
Patriots suddenly become rioters and fake electors when it's time to face the music.
 
LOL. RICO prosecutions still require evidence.
Yes they do and there is evidence even just in the Indictments...which of course are not all the DA has.
There isn't. It's just testimony by liars. The prosecution will need to show actual evidence - an ad, an e-mail, a blog, a video, etc. . .
How convenient for you. Pegged them as liars did you. Based on what? Does Tucker say so. Or is this just you?
If they cannot, a jury is compelled to find the defendant NOT GUILTY.
If.......you hold on to that now. Just don't squeeze too hard. Don't want to hurt yourself.
 
Michael Cohen committed crimes with trump's sex partners at the direction of trump, and was convicted and imprisoned years ago and trump hasn't been held accountable yet.
Yes, justice must be served in all cases no matter how much the confederacy howls.
 
look at their damn mugshots. do you think those people are gonna go prison for a slime like trump??
 
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