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Thoughts and Prayers [W:140]

OpportunityCost said:
Of course I do, Democrats have had decades to pass a national gun registration on all firearms and they know its not only unconstitutional but will make their party a minority for at least a generation, so they have not tried. They know it will be overturned.
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That is opinion only.

Federal gun registration is constitutional for any gun
 
Tlrmln said:
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Could you please elaborate/clarify?



I would have no problem with a person having her carry license suspended if she points her firearm at someone (without justification, of course) three or four times within a relevant time period.
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The use of automobiles on private property exclusively is so rare as to be inconsequential as an argument.
 
RF667799 said:
Tell you what, let's regulate guns the same way we regulate cars. I'd be good with that.

You spoke present tense. What is the relevance of what regulations might be in the future? That doesn't support your statement. It's just more trying to back away from it.

He's not using his Hellcat on public roads (at least not without the chance of being arrested for using it without a license). He can use it at home. I know plenty of people have enough property to use a vehicle at home. He can have it transported to a track and use it there, if the owners allow. The analogy would be that I could have several weapons violations and lose my license that allows me to use my gun in public. Yet, I could still buy and own firearms, use them on my own property, and even transport them to gun ranges, my buddy's farm, etc., and use them in those private venues.
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What stays the same over time? Not much. If you want to play that game, I'm good. Any Americans that want muskets and blunderbusses can have as many as they want.
 
Rich2018 said:
But guns are a right, driving is a privilege


When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
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True, but the conflict here is 'if guns were regulated like cars'.
 
mrjurrs said:
The use of automobiles on private property exclusively is so rare as to be inconsequential as an argument.
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Even if that were true (it's not), it might be a good reason not to regulate guns and cars the same way, but certainly not a good reason to regulate guns MORE than cars.
 
Tlrmln said:
Even if that were true (it's not), it might be a good reason not to regulate guns and cars the same way, but certainly not a good reason to regulate guns MORE than cars.
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Guns are far far deadlier than cars
 
mrjurrs said:
What stays the same over time? Not much. If you want to play that game, I'm good. Any Americans that want muskets and blunderbusses can have as many as they want.
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That isn't rationally derived from your statement that you would be fine with regulating guns like cars. Why the desperation to deflect? Just admit you no longer wish to regulate guns like cars.
 
mrjurrs said:
True, but the conflict here is 'if guns were regulated like cars'.
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The conflict is one you are experiencing because you said that regulating them the same would suit you.
 
vegas giants said:
Guns are far far deadlier than cars
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Do you have any facts or reasoning to support this bald statement, or can we just throw it on the gun control BS pile along with "pistol grips make rifles more dangerous?"
 
mrjurrs said:
The use of automobiles on private property exclusively is so rare as to be inconsequential as an argument.
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That's an incredibly stupid statement---it happens on large Illinois farms literally all the time.
 
RF667799 said:
That isn't rationally derived from your statement that you would be fine with regulating guns like cars. Why the desperation to deflect? Just admit you no longer wish to regulate guns like cars.
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Dude, get a grip. Cars regulations change, gun regulations rarely do. If I say I want the rules to be like baseball, do you interpret that to mean, no black players, or maybe the DH will be used by both leagues. Neither are currently true, regulations change.
 
OpportunityCost said:
That's an incredibly stupid statement---it happens on large Illinois farms literally all the time.
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Large IL farms, like corporate farms? Give me a number. In 2019 there were about 276 million registered vehicles in the US. How many vehicles do you think are unregistered and never driven on public roads (don't include IL teenagers that sneak the pickup off the farm).
 
Tlrmln said:
Do you have any facts or reasoning to support this bald statement, or can we just throw it on the gun control BS pile along with "pistol grips make rifles more dangerous?"
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Guns and cars have about the same number of deaths but cars are involved with people for trillions of more man hours. Lots of people never touch a gun
 
vegas giants said:
Guns and cars have about the same number of deaths but cars are involved with people for trillions of more man hours. Lots of people never touch a gun
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That's a great reason for the laws governing cars to be much stricter than the laws governing guns.
 
mrjurrs said:
Large IL farms, like corporate farms? Give me a number. In 2019 there were about 276 million registered vehicles in the US. How many vehicles do you think are unregistered and never driven on public roads (don't include IL teenagers that sneak the pickup off the farm).
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Your claim was .1%.
 
mrjurrs said:
Dude, get a grip. Cars regulations change, gun regulations rarely do. If I say I want the rules to be like baseball, do you interpret that to mean, no black players, or maybe the DH will be used by both leagues. Neither are currently true, regulations change.
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with your claim that you would be fine with regulating guns just like cars, nor is such a vague statement even supportable.

Why not just admit you no longer like your idea of regulating guns like cars?
 
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