This thread is not about Trump.

[iguanaman]

Do you realize Biden lied when he said he had a plan to crush the pandemic?

The "plan" was to get everyone vaccinated and he provided the means to do that. It is not his fault that so many refused to take the shot. That is on your side.

 

[trixare4kids]

Have you actually SEEN the data?


LOL

10 facts about Americans and coronavirus vaccines

As the drive to inoculate more people continues, here are 10 facts about Americans and COVID-19 vaccines.

www.pewresearch.org

Don't bother to put the above into your on words. Keep posting links by all means.
We wouldn't like you stop showing us your hypocrisy and double standards.

 

[Rawley]

Because they are. You think we can’t track vaccination and hospitalization rates with counties that went to trump or Biden? This is seriously news to you?

I know you don't track vaccination and hospitalization rates by politcal affliliation. Republican voters are a minority of the population in every county in the country. Why don't you blame gays for the vaccination hesitation? There is just as much evidence that they are responsible as Republicans.

That is a metric that is not dominant. If it was, it would skew the results that find that vaccine and hospitalization rates are correlated with political lean.

There are no results. No one collects party affiliation during vaccination or hospitalization. They do collect race information. And according to this real data collected by the CDC, blacks and hispanics are the largest demographic of unvaccianted. I'll ask again, how do you reconcile this real data with the canard you are pushing?

 

[mike2810]

I researched this and posted it to another thread last night.

Should proof of vaccinations be required to book and board domestic commercial flights in the United States?

how do you know you are uninfected? Unless you are testing daily, you don't. The best course of action is to get vaccinated, your booster and to test before traveling. Just testing isn't enough, because you could have been infected an hour ago or yesterday and not know it. Places like NYC...

debatepolitics.com

Thanks for the link.
Stats are interesting. Seems FL is one of the top States for new cases

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

It is too bad that some want to make this a Blue State Red State issue. It is an US issue. It is past time we stop the partisan bs and figure out how to reduce covid to endemic. It is not going away. We should not continue to accept the number of hospitalizations or deaths due to covid.

 

[trixare4kids]

The "plan" was to get everyone vaccinated and he provided the means to do that. It is not his fault that so many refused to take the shot. That is on your side.

I'm sure you believe that bs.

I am vaccinated. If he were successful he wouldn't have quit so abruptly, admitting he never had the power to get everyone vaccinated.

 

[Threegoofs]

Don't bother to put the above into your on words. Keep posting links by all means.
We wouldn't like you stop showing us your hypocrisy and double standards.

Funny. It must be frustrating to go thru life half-understanding everything.

 

[Rawley]

Yes, per capita, because I’m not 12 years old.

But on vaccination status, you are going on absolute numbers, not per capita. You seem confused.

 

[trixare4kids]

Thanks for the link.
Stats are interesting. Seems FL is one of the top States for new cases

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

It is too bad that some want to make this a Blue State Red State issue. It is an US issue. It is past time we stop the partisan bs and figure out how to reduce covid to endemic. It is not going away. We should not continue to accept the number of hospitalizations or deaths due to covid.

Thanks
I only pointed out that it is now a blue state issue because I am not going to allow some on this forum to keep lying about red states leading the way in covid infection and hospitalizations. Agree it should be an US issue, but when's that going to happen? The left is intent on blaming MAGA for the high rates of infection while never looking in the mirror at themselves.

FL. is high because it's a tourist state. People fly in and fly out all the time thus they have high hates of Covid.

 

[iguanaman]

I'm sure you believe that bs.

I am vaccinated. If he were successful he wouldn't have quit so abruptly, admitting he never had the power to get everyone vaccinated.

LOL Again he never said he had the "power". I do think he overestimated the intelligence of Republicans though. That still does not make him a liar. It makes 43% of republicans total morons.

 

[trixare4kids]

Funny. It must be frustrating to go thru life half-understanding everything.

Want a side of prunes before your next dump of misinformation comes forward?

Have a wonderful night trying to convince others that violent crime is on the downfall in Chicago...

 

[iguanaman]

Thanks
I only pointed out that it is now a blue state issue because I am not going to allow some on this forum to keep lying about red states leading the way in covid infection and hospitalizations. Agree it should be an US issue, but when's that going to happen? The left is intent on blaming MAGA for the high rates of infection while never looking in the mirror at themselves.

FL. is high because it's a tourist state. People fly in and fly out all the time thus they have high hates of Covid.

Florida has had high case counts since last summer because our governor is running for President instead of caring about our residents. He deserves to be booted out in November and I expect that will be the case. Let him run for the nomination on his own time,

 

[CharisRose]

Yes, the irony here is just so delicious.

Yes, it is…

And, one very famous and loved POTUS turned on Joe back in 2020…

• According to Politico, Obama told another Democrat during the 2020 primary campaign: "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up."

Barack Obama has privately voiced concerns that Joe Biden could 'f--- things up,' according to a report

There are said to be tensions between the Biden and Obama camps over the former president's perceived lack of support for Biden's White House bid.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[trixare4kids]

LOL Again he never said he had the "power". I do think he overestimated the intelligence of Republicans though. That still does not make him a liar. It makes 43% of republicans total morons.

He said he had a plan or the power to crush the pandemic.
Carry on doing damage control. I'm telling you what he said.

He underestimated the intelligence of the right is what you meant to write? They weren't about to let him get away with his division, pitting the federal government against the states, and then when his silly power struggle wasn't getting him anywhere, he up and quit. Your guy is a disgrace to humanity.

 

[Overitall]

Thanks for the link.
Stats are interesting. Seems FL is one of the top States for new cases

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

It is too bad that some want to make this a Blue State Red State issue. It is an US issue. It is past time we stop the partisan bs and figure out how to reduce covid to endemic. It is not going away. We should not continue to accept the number of hospitalizations or deaths due to covid.

Omicron might be the answer to that.

Omicron may enhance immunity against Delta, new study suggests

The study, which has not been peer-reviewed, found that those infected with Omicron developed an enhanced immunity to Delta.

www.euronews.com

Being infected with Omicron may enhance immunity against the Delta variant of coronavirus, research by South African scientists have suggested.

With it being highly infectious it inevitably will spread throughout the country. Prior infection does produce some protection and the omicron may boost that.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Recovery from many viral infectious diseases is followed by a period of infection-induced immunologic protection against reinfection. This phenomenon is widely observed with many respiratory viral infections, including both influenza and the endemic coronaviruses, for which acquired immunity also wanes over time making individuals susceptible to reinfection.

Maybe if Biden spoke up about natural immunity people wouldn't be in such a panic. Oddly neither he, nor those who serve him seem interested in talking about the science of natural immunity.

 

[trixare4kids]

Yes, it is…

And, one very famous and loved POTUS turned on Joe back in 2020…

• According to Politico, Obama told another Democrat during the 2020 primary campaign: "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up."

Barack Obama has privately voiced concerns that Joe Biden could 'f--- things up,' according to a report

There are said to be tensions between the Biden and Obama camps over the former president's perceived lack of support for Biden's White House bid.

www.businessinsider.com

The chickens have come home to roost.

 

[Overitall]

Yes, it is…

And, one very famous and loved POTUS turned on Joe back in 2020…

• According to Politico, Obama told another Democrat during the 2020 primary campaign: "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up."

Barack Obama has privately voiced concerns that Joe Biden could 'f--- things up,' according to a report

There are said to be tensions between the Biden and Obama camps over the former president's perceived lack of support for Biden's White House bid.

www.businessinsider.com

Biden was one crisis Obama couldn't figure out how not to waste.

 

[Rawley]

Omicron might be the answer to that.

Omicron may enhance immunity against Delta, new study suggests

The study, which has not been peer-reviewed, found that those infected with Omicron developed an enhanced immunity to Delta.

www.euronews.com

With it being highly infectious it inevitably will spread throughout the country. Prior infection does produce some protection and the omicron may boost that.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Maybe if Biden spoke up about natural immunity people wouldn't be in such a panic. Oddly neither he, nor those who serve him seem interested in talking about the science of natural immunity.

In spite of your review I watched Don't Look Up last night. You were right. Boring. And rather stupid. And Jennifer Lawrence didn't get nekkid (so you didn't think you missed anything while you were sleeping through it).

 

[Overitall]

In spite of your review I watched Don't Look Up last night. You were right. Boring. And rather stupid. And Jennifer Lawrence didn't get nekkid (so you didn't think you missed anything while you were sleeping through it).

Did you catch the not so subtle poke at antivaxxers? I find social message movies to be the most boring.

 

[trixare4kids]

Florida has had high case counts since last summer because our governor is running for President instead of caring about our residents. He deserves to be booted out in November and I expect that will be the case. Let him run for the nomination on his own time,

Don't write DeSantis off yet....

• The conservative governor shows double-digit leads over Democratic candidates for the job
• Half of respondents oppose the idea of enacting a Texas-style abortion law in Florida
• Rubio challenger in U.S. Senate race, Demings, trails the GOP incumbent

ST. LEO, FL – The most recent poll of 500 Floridians by the Saint Leo University Polling Institute (polls.saintleo.edu) shows that more than half of respondents say Governor Ron DeSantis is doing a good job overall and that his handling of the COVID crisis meets with their approval. Still, the Republican governor’s work on both counts is met with strong feelings of disapproval from more than one-quarter of those polled.

The governor is up for re-election during the 2022 election, and is also considered by some to be a contender for a future presidential race. U.S. Senator Marco Rubio, another prominent Republican, is also up for re-election in 2022, and respondents weighed in on a race between Rubio and Democratic challengers.

56.4 percent, approve of his job performance. Of those, 36 percent “strongly” approve. Concerning the Chinese coronavirus specifically, 53.4 percent approve. Wow!

Florida’s Republican Gov. DeSantis’ Job-Approval Stands at More than 56%, While His COVID Job Performance Marks Nearly as High in New Saint Leo University Survey

The conservative governor shows double-digit leads over Democratic candidates for the job Half of respondents oppose the idea of enacting a Texas-style abortion law in Florida Rubio challenger in U.S. Senate race, Demings, trails the GOP incumbent ST. LEO, FL – The most recent poll of 500...

polls.saintleo.edu

 

[trixare4kids]

Biden was one crisis Obama couldn't figure out how not to waste.

 

[Rawley]

Did you catch the not so subtle poke at antivaxxers? I find social message movies to be the most boring.

Seems they were trying to poke a lot of people. Yep - boring.

 

[Threegoofs]

Want a side of prunes before your next dump of misinformation comes forward?

Have a wonderful night trying to convince others that violent crime is on the downfall in Chicago...

I literally showed you the data!

 

[mike2810]

Thanks
I only pointed out that it is now a blue state issue because I am not going to allow some on this forum to keep lying about red states leading the way in covid infection and hospitalizations. Agree it should be an US issue, but when's that going to happen? The left is intent on blaming MAGA for the high rates of infection while never looking in the mirror at themselves.

FL. is high because it's a tourist state. People fly in and fly out all the time thus they have high hates of Covid.

Yes, some on the left blame MAGA. I also see a many MAGA or right leaning people blame the left.
imo, till people quit making covid political the divide will continue.

I have been a Republican for decades. What I find interesting is if I post anything thing that disagrees with Trump, I get labeled as being "left".
Seems some on the right cannot / will not compromise or see the other sides viewpoint. That goes for some on the left also.

/Sarcasm on
One only needs to look at some of MTGreene's statements to know she will never compromise. She is one reason we are in this mess.

 

[CharisRose]

LOL

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It is Democratic/Socialist authoritarianism fear mongering politics disguised as science. To control the (American) unwashed masses.

Have you ever wondered why we keep catching Democrat Representative’s not following the rules of the disguised science they expect the (American) unwashed masses to obey and when not obeyed all kinds of punishment ensues.

With one exception thanks to Biden’s open borders fiasco…

People who are coming from multiple locations around the world who are allowed to cross over the unsecured U.S. border…

There appears to be no concern whatsoever about all those people being a risk that needed to be taken into consideration in Biden’s Plan to Crush the Pandemic.

Some considerations examples… They may not be vaccinated. They may never get vaccinated.

They may have COVID and may be spreading COVID to American Citizens in whatever State they pass thru and then whatever State they eventually take up residence. Plus the potential of overwhelming Hospitals and overworking hospital staff.

The reason I think, Biden the Candidate lied about Crushing the Pandemic is based on the fact…

As POTUS he has ignored the examples above ^ as a legitimate potential COVID harm to American Citizens.

Plus, his lack of action concerning border control. His action of halting the continuation of the border wall.

imho

 

[mike2810]

Omicron might be the answer to that.

Omicron may enhance immunity against Delta, new study suggests

The study, which has not been peer-reviewed, found that those infected with Omicron developed an enhanced immunity to Delta.

www.euronews.com

With it being highly infectious it inevitably will spread throughout the country. Prior infection does produce some protection and the omicron may boost that.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Maybe if Biden spoke up about natural immunity people wouldn't be in such a panic. Oddly neither he, nor those who serve him seem interested in talking about the science of natural immunity.

Valid points.

Let me ask you this. Those that support natural immunity do they ever talk about those who end up in the hospital or don't survive covid?
Do they ever talk about how the vaccine improves one's protection for those who survived covid?

"Yes, the COVID-19 vaccines are recommended, even if you had COVID-19. At present, evidence from Johns Hopkins Medicine and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) supports getting a COVID-19 vaccine as the best protection against getting COVID-19, whether you have already had the virus or not.

COVID Natural Immunity: What You Need to Know

Even if you’ve already had COVID-19, getting a coronavirus vaccine is recommended. These are the things you need to know about COVID natural immunity.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org