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Bullshit. we have a legal immigration system, and it works.YOUR side created this situation. Here’s one of your prime economists, bragging about it:
Then why is it democrats why cry "who will pick our crops" like they did in 1865 when we no longer had slaves?Republicans wanted a sub-class of laborers who are denied welfare that lawful residents are entitled to.
My girlfriend came here legally from Cuba with a Cuban passport, and permission. She got a work visa, and applied to stay. She is on the correct path to citizenship, and freely flies to Cuba and back at will to see family, and can do so without fear, because she is legal.You created the bureaucratic red tape that arbitrarily made them all “illegal”.
By doing the will of the people who elected him into office? this illegal chaos has gone too far. This pendulum is swinging back hard because of it.You’re so mad they didn’t fill out your big government paperwork, you launch these crazy raids all over blue cities to provoke violence.
the left has rioted for too many reason, harming fellow Americans. past practices have not worked. What solution do you have that stands a chance of working?Now you send in the marines with live ammo to quell the justified outrage you produced.
It is not a manufactured crisis. The danger of rioters is real. Wake up.It’s a manufactured crisis of violence against our people. It’s sick, disgusting.
I have already responded to this. Simple repetition doesn't strengthen your argument.Trump was planning on creating riots before he was even elected. He talked about it.
This just more of the same.He intended to escalate, to provoke violence.
and still more.You are defending a horrible person, someone who inflicts terror on the American public because it helps him grab more personal power.
Whether someone 'works for us' or not, they can still be doxxed. You are wrong on that point.You can’t doxx police officers, they work for us.
Yeah, I think you've tried to float this fantasy of ICE not identifying themselves as part of their enforcement action before. It doesn't play any stronger on repeat.We pay them to enforce the law, we need them to identify themselves. Otherwise, anyone can impersonate an officer and kidnap people, this is a recipe for chaos and violence.
Great rebuttals to an 'out of touch' Liberal who wants violent protesters to control the streets.Bullshit. we have a legal immigration system, and it works.
Then why is it democrats why cry "who will pick our crops" like they did in 1865 when we no longer had slaves?
My girlfriend came here legally from Cuba with a Cuban passport, and permission. She got a work visa, and applied to stay. She is on the correct path to citizenship, and freely flies to Cuba and back at will to see family, and can do so without fear, because she is legal.
By doing the will of the people who elected him into office? this illegal chaos has gone too far. This pendulum is swinging back hard because of it.
the left has rioted for too many reason, harming fellow Americans. past practices have not worked. What solution do you have that stands a chance of working?
You are an enabler, and part of the problem.
It is not a manufactured crisis. The danger of rioters is real. Wake up.
"Those few" is a lot more numerous than you think imo.Those few people who are violent should be arrested.
The woman just trying to get home who was shot is horrible.
Anytime the left doesn't get what they want . . .Great rebuttals to an 'out of touch' Liberal who wants violent protesters to control the streets.
Doxxing officers allows people to track them at home and perhaps lie in wait and ambush them. Or SWAT them. It happens.Trump was planning on creating riots before he was even elected. He talked about it.
He intended to escalate, to provoke violence. You are defending a horrible person, someone who inflicts terror on the American public because it helps him grab more personal power.
You can’t doxx police officers, they work for us. We pay them to enforce the law, we need them to identify themselves. Otherwise, anyone can impersonate an officer and kidnap people, this is a recipe for chaos and violence.
They always believe their lying talking heads. They are so brainwashed it is sad.
You’re the one calling it “doxxing” for them to identify themselves. We need to be able to identify law enforcement officers, it is a requirement for them to conduct operations. Otherwise, we can’t tell them apart from armed, masked kidnappers. It makes the situation far more dangerous for everyone involved.I have already responded to this. Simple repetition doesn't strengthen your argument.
This just more of the same.
and still more.
Whether someone 'works for us' or not, they can still be doxxed. You are wrong on that point.
Yeah, I think you've tried to float this fantasy of ICE not identifying themselves as part of their enforcement action before. It doesn't play any stronger on repeat.
You know what the problem is with that? If they know the name and face, they will find the address and family of the officer and God only knows what they will do---from a simple protest at their home to arson and outright murder. The person being arrested will get the name of the arresting officer when they are arraigned, an entire crowd doesn't need to know their face at all.You’re the one calling it “doxxing” for them to identify themselves. We need to be able to identify law enforcement officers, it is a requirement for them to conduct operations. Otherwise, we can’t tell them apart from armed, masked kidnappers. It makes the situation far more dangerous for everyone involved.
Legally, there's no clear federal law prohibiting ICE officers to unmask themselves as long as they properly identify themselves as law enforcement when required.You’re the one calling it “doxxing” for them to identify themselves. We need to be able to identify law enforcement officers, it is a requirement for them to conduct operations. Otherwise, we can’t tell them apart from armed, masked kidnappers. It makes the situation far more dangerous for everyone involved.
If masked, unidentified paramilitary thugs show up to put you into an unmarked van, you can legally shoot them in self defense.Legally, there's no clear federal law prohibiting ICE officers to unmask themselves as long as they properly identify themselves as law enforcement when required.
Since you're so "outraged" call your congressman/woman and ask them to take up a bill to change the law. Or you can stop whining. Your choice.
No, that's two completely different things and you and I know it. "Come On Man!"You’re the one calling it “doxxing” for them to identify themselves.
I've responded to this argument from you before. Check back in your list of posts in which you've been quoted.We need to be able to identify law enforcement officers, it is a requirement for them to conduct operations.
Otherwise, we can’t tell them apart from armed, masked kidnappers. It makes the situation far more dangerous for everyone involved.
It is exactly what I wrote above. No law against ICE wearing a mask while they are performing their raids.If masked, unidentified paramilitary thugs show up to put you into an unmarked van, you can legally shoot them in self defense.
If you think that is good, you must want ICE agents shot.
NO.This morning, Trump declared defacto martial law.
Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERALwww.whitehouse.gov
He now is following through on what he said before the election, that he would turn the military against his political opponents. Do you support it, yes or no?
Trump dictated that all masks are illegal and Trump believes he dictates the law. Where is the exception for ICE?It is exactly what I wrote above. No law against ICE wearing a mask while they are performing their raids.
Oh for the love of God, get a grip.
Doxxing officers allows people to track them at home and perhaps lie in wait and ambush them. Or SWAT them. It happens.
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