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This morning Trump declared defacto martial law because of one broken windshield, do you support it?

Do you support martial law?

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Absentglare

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Absentglare said:
This morning, Trump declared defacto martial law.

www.whitehouse.gov

Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

He now is following through on what he said before the election, that he would turn the military against his political opponents. Do you support it, yes or no?
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I think you should look up the definition of terms before you start tossing them around. You can start with "martial law".
 
Mycroft said:
I think you should look up the definition of terms before you start tossing them around. You can start with "martial law".
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Read the memo. He says the sec def can deploy any number of active duty military from any branch to anywhere in the US.
 
Here is the relevent part of the memo:

I hereby call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. 12406 to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations. Further, I direct and delegate actions as necessary for the Secretary of Defense to coordinate with the Governors of the States and the National Guard Bureau in identifying and ordering into Federal service the appropriate members and units of the National Guard under this authority. The members and units of the National Guard called into Federal service shall be at least 2,000 National Guard personnel and the duration of duty shall be for 60 days or at the discretion of the Secretary of Defense. In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.
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And remember, most of the raids are being conducted without warrants, without 4th amendment protections, without court permissions. And now, should any citizens object to these violations, the military is there to make sure they remain silent.

Be patient. They're coming after you soon enough.
 
Mycroft said:
I think you should look up the definition of terms before you start tossing them around. You can start with "martial law".
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I think you should provide your alleged incontrovertible proof of 2020 electoral fraud before telling anybody else what to do. It’s been 5 years that you’ve humiliated Donald by failing to pony up. It’s embarrassing.
 
Mycroft said:
Yes...but for what purpose?
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Trump’s memo conflates protest with rebellion, he has now openly declared that he will be suppressing our constitutional rights with our military.

Why are you defending this? No one can force you to defend this.
 
www.brennancenter.org

The Posse Comitatus Act Explained

The law generally prevents the president from using the military as a domestic police force.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

Needs Congressional action under these circumstances. Since there isn’t any, on what grounds is this Constitutional?
 
Absentglare said:
Trump’s memo conflates protest with rebellion,
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To a limited extent. Didn't you read his memo? Here: "To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.

Absentglare said:
he has now openly declared that he will be suppressing our constitutional rights with our military.
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Nobody has a constitutional right to directly inhibit the execution of laws.

Absentglare said:
Why are you defending this? No one can force you to defend this.
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I think you'll find that I ALWAYS defend the lives of law enforcement when they are faced with attacks.
 
Mycroft said:
To a limited extent. Didn't you read his memo? Here: "To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.


Nobody has a constitutional right to directly inhibit the execution of laws.


I think you'll find that I ALWAYS defend the lives of law enforcement when they are faced with attacks.
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So you’re good with Trump deploying the military against anyone who protests his political agenda.
 
Absentglare said:
So you’re good with Trump deploying the military against anyone who protests his political agenda.
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What part of "I think you'll find that I ALWAYS defend the lives of law enforcement when they are faced with attacks." do you not understand?
 
Mycroft said:
What part of "I think you'll find that I ALWAYS defend the lives of law enforcement when they are faced with attacks." do you not understand?
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Even when they are acting illegally and unconstitutionally?

Well, at least you support law enforcement is defending themselves and Congress when Ashli Babbitt was killed after disobeying lawful orders to stand down and lunging at the officer.
 
from the ultra-leftie website RawStory, with a link to a 2 minute interview with Max Boot

Military analyst busts Hegseth over 'convenient' Los Angeles military threat​

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's inflammatory social media post that he is ready and willing to send Marines into Los Angeles to confront protesters is nothing more than a ploy to curry favor with Donald Trump.

That is the opinion of long-time military analyst Max Boot who pointed out that Hegseth's tenure at the Pentagon has been disastrous . . .

"This is not what you want in a situation like this, a trigger-happy secretary of defense," Boot began. "Now, you know, I think to, you know, one thing you can say in favor of the Trump administration is I don't think that they are looking for wars overseas. They're not necessarily looking to involve us forces in conflict with Iran or other bad actors, but it does seem like they are looking for wars at home. They're looking for confrontations at home."
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Much safer to throw some military force at a civilian protest crowd with women and children present

from YouTube/MSNBC
 
Mycroft said:
What part of "I think you'll find that I ALWAYS defend the lives of law enforcement when they are faced with attacks." do you not understand?
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We already have ICE to handle immigration and local police to manage civilian protests. Are you really so scared of immigrants and protests that you feel an immediate need to deploy the military against fellow Americans for having different political beliefs?
 
Absentglare said:
We already have ICE to handle immigration and local police to manage civilian protests. Are you really so scared of immigrants and protests that you feel an immediate need to deploy the military against fellow Americans for having different political beliefs?
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"Feeling an immediate need" - Like many in the cult he's probably wetting his panties over it!! They'll show those damn liberals that they must bend the knee to the orange king.
 
Since its original passage by Congress, the Posse Comitatus Act has been updated to include ALL of the US military under its restrictions. When passed in 1878, it only applied to the US Army, subsequent updates have placed all of the divisions under the restrictions of the act.

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Hmm, maybe Hegseth should call in the Coast Guard as it isn't named in the act
 
Absentglare said:
We already have ICE to handle immigration and local police to manage civilian protests. Are you really so scared of immigrants and protests that you feel an immediate need to deploy the military against fellow Americans for having different political beliefs?
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Hmmm...

I could be wrong...but I don't think I am...but I think federal law enforcement is acting legally when defending federal property and federal personnel against people who are trying to attack them. And, if it gets to the point where the National Guard is necessary, I'm pretty sure that is legal as well.

And no...I am not scared of anything. Not only have I not deployed anything or anyone to anywhere, I'm over a thousand miles away from all this.

In any case, Trump isn't scared, either. He's not deploying anyone against fellow Americans for having different political beliefs. He's deploying them against criminal Americans who are attacking federal property and federal law enforcement.
 
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Absentglare said:
This morning, Trump declared defacto martial law.

www.whitehouse.gov

Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

He now is following through on what he said before the election, that he would turn the military against his political opponents. Do you support it, yes or no?
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Well, here we go!

Second America Revolution in 3 2 1!

What side will you be on?
 
Ishm said:
"Feeling an immediate need" - Like many in the cult he's probably wetting his panties over it!! They'll show those damn liberals that they must bend the knee to the orange king.
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Do you think they’ll get mad at him when they find out we’re not the cuck soyboys he and their media have convinced them we are?
 
Absentglare said:
We already have ICE to handle immigration and local police to manage civilian protests. Are you really so scared of immigrants and protests that you feel an immediate need to deploy the military against fellow Americans for having different political beliefs?
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Yes.

Yes he does.
 
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