This is what the Trump administration has given to Americans. I hope the folks who voted for Trump are satisfied?

[Indigo47]

Unarguably. Yes.

"Can" being the operative word - as you correctly point out, it is far from a foregone conclusion in many (most?) cases, and an outright impossibility when it comes to other products.

I'm old enough to remember when inflation was top of the list of Conservatives' worries. Odd how that's changed in less than a year, isn't it?

 

[Indigo47]

How does that work, exactly? Can you put some fences around "the long-run"?

"U.S. inflation was unchanged in July as rising prices for some imported goods were balanced by falling gas and grocery prices, leaving overall prices modestly higher than a year ago."

"A new Consumer Price Index (CPI) report released on Tuesday, August 12, 2025, indicates that inflation remains stable, tracking at 1.9% since President Trump took office. The report also highlights an increase in real average weekly earnings for American workers, suggesting that wage growth is outpacing inflation."

A key factor in the stable inflation rate is a decline in the cost of various goods and services. The report noted that shelter inflation, a major component of the CPI, is at its lowest level since October 2021. This easing of housing costs contributes significantly to the overall economic picture.

This economic news aligns with a survey from Bloomberg, which reported that small business optimism reached a five-month high in July. The survey found that business owners are feeling more positive about the economic outlook, leading to increased plans for expansion. "

U.S. Economy Shows Wage Growth Amid Stable Inflation - MSN

We'll see how long this lasts.

"The U.S. collected more than $29 billion in tariff revenues in July, the highest monthly total to date so far this year.
That figure pushes the total tariff revenue for the year to more than $152 billion, according to the latest "Customs and Certain Excise Taxes" data released by the Treasury Department.

Trump says 'beautiful' surge in tariff revenues, $29B, sets ...

 

[hooligan]

Citing facts, not assumptions.

Incorrect.

 

[BabaVoss]

All he had to do was nothing and he couldn't even manage that.

He gets bored with just playing golf, much to our detriment.

 

[hooligan]

"U.S. inflation was unchanged in July as rising prices for some imported goods were balanced by falling gas and grocery prices, leaving overall prices modestly higher than a year ago."

"A new Consumer Price Index (CPI) report released on Tuesday, August 12, 2025, indicates that inflation remains stable, tracking at 1.9% since President Trump took office. The report also highlights an increase in real average weekly earnings for American workers, suggesting that wage growth is outpacing inflation."

A key factor in the stable inflation rate is a decline in the cost of various goods and services. The report noted that shelter inflation, a major component of the CPI, is at its lowest level since October 2021. This easing of housing costs contributes significantly to the overall economic picture.

This economic news aligns with a survey from Bloomberg, which reported that small business optimism reached a five-month high in July. The survey found that business owners are feeling more positive about the economic outlook, leading to increased plans for expansion. "

U.S. Economy Shows Wage Growth Amid Stable Inflation - MSN

We'll see how long this lasts.

"The U.S. collected more than $29 billion in tariff revenues in July, the highest monthly total to date so far this year.
That figure pushes the total tariff revenue for the year to more than $152 billion, according to the latest "Customs and Certain Excise Taxes" data released by the Treasury Department.

Trump says 'beautiful' surge in tariff revenues, $29B, sets ...

...The all items index rose 2.7 percent for the 12 months ending July, after rising 2.7 percent over the 12months ending June. The all items less food and energy index rose 3.1 percent over the last 12 months. The energy index decreased 1.6 percent for the 12 months ending July. The food index increased 2.9 percent over the last year...

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf

I see you're touting the revenue created by these tariffs - so you favor increasing taxes on American businesses, then?

 

[hooligan]

Harry Enten: "This is an abject disaster for the president. Voters on Trump on inflation - look at where his net approval stands today on inflation. My goodness gracious! Into the gutter we do. He's 25 points underwater! ... the wrath the voters feel for Trump is transferring over to Republicans."

 

[Indigo47]

He gets bored with just playing golf, much to our detriment.

Clinton must have gotten bored playing golf, too, considering the accusations against him.

Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape
22 year-old student 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcome physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidation, threats
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcome sexual advance, intimidation
Juanita Broderick - rape
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcome sexual advance, penis exposure sexual assault.
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcome sexual advance, sexual assault forced her head into his lap
Monica Lewinsky - consensual sex
Gennifer Flowers - consensual sex
Dolly Kyle Browning - affair
Sally Perdue - affair, post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Leslie Millwee - sexual assault
Marsha Scott - affair
Denise Reeder - sexual assault
Connie Hamzy - consensual sex
Denise Rich - affair
Bobbie Ann Williams - paid sex, possible paternity

 

[Indigo47]

...The all items index rose 2.7 percent for the 12 months ending July, after rising 2.7 percent over the 12months ending June. The all items less food and energy index rose 3.1 percent over the last 12 months. The energy index decreased 1.6 percent for the 12 months ending July. The food index increased 2.9 percent over the last year...

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf

I see you're touting the revenue created by these tariffs - so you favor increasing taxes on American businesses, then?

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The increased standard deduction also remains in place, simplifying tax filing and potentially lowering your overall tax burden.

But that’s not all.

The new law introduces fresh tax breaks designed to help entrepreneurs, like the ability to deduct up to $10,000 in interest paid on auto loans used for business purposes.

Plus, the child tax credit gets a boost, now up to $2,200 per child, which can make a real difference for business owners with families.

However, it’s not all smooth sailing.

The bill also phases out some clean energy tax breaks and raises tariffs on certain imports.

This could impact your supply chain or costs if you rely on imported goods.

Navigating these changes means reviewing your tax strategy, looking for new opportunities to save, and staying alert to how these shifts might affect your bottom line.

The “Big Beautiful Bill” is packed with both opportunities and challenges—so we’ll walk through it to make sure you’re making the most of every tax break available.

Tax Credits: Hidden Gems for Small Businesses

Tax credits can give a boost to small businesses, and the 2025 tax reform has introduced some valuable new options.

The expanded child tax credit, now $2,200 per child, offers meaningful relief for business owners juggling family and entrepreneurship.

If you’re investing in the future, there’s also a new tax credit for renewable energy investments, like solar panels or wind turbines, allowing you to claim up to 30% of your investment as a credit against your income tax.

But be aware: not all tax credits are created equal.

The bill tightens eligibility for some popular credits, such as the earned income tax credit and the premium tax credit.

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These hidden gems can make a real difference in your after-tax income.

Trump Tax Cuts 2025 Explained For Small Businesses

 

[hooligan]

Who the hell is Jamie Trull?

Your copy and paste does nothing to answer the question I asked you.

 

[BabaVoss]

"He gets bored with just playing golf, much to our detriment."

Clinton must have gotten bored playing golf, too, considering the accusations against him.

You want to play "who was the bigger perv", start a new thread.

Clinton obviously had his personal demons, but the country thrived under this leadership.
Trump obviously has his personal demons, was besties with sex trafficker Epstein, and the country is suffering under his incompetence and corruption.

 

[Indigo47]

Harry Enten: "This is an abject disaster for the president. Voters on Trump on inflation - look at where his net approval stands today on inflation. My goodness gracious! Into the gutter we do. He's 25 points underwater! ... the wrath the voters feel for Trump is transferring over to Republicans."

Oh geeze, the sky is falling so let the fearmongering and pearl-clutching begin!

It's not all bad news......

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. inflation was unchanged in July as rising prices for some imported goods were balanced by falling gas and grocery prices, leaving overall prices modestly higher than a year ago.

Consumer prices rose 2.7% in July from a year earlier, the Labor Department said Tuesday, the same as the previous month and up from a post-pandemic low of 2.3% in April. Excluding the volatile food and energy categories, core prices rose 3.1%, up from 2.9% in June. Both figures are above the Federal Reserve’s 2% target.

The new numbers suggest that slowing rent increases and cheaper gas are offsetting some impacts of President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs. Many businesses are also likely still absorbing much of the cost of the duties. Tuesday’s figures probably reflect some impact from the 10% universal tariff Trump imposed in April, as well as higher duties on countries such as China and Canada.

Gas prices fell 2.2% from June to July and have plunged 9.5% from a year earlier, the government’s report said. Grocery prices slipped 0.1% last month, though they are still 2.2% higher than a year ago.

US inflation held steady as mild tariff hit offset by cheaper gas, food

Overall, prices are modestly higher than a year ago.

www.nydailynews.com

 

[Indigo47]

"He gets bored with just playing golf, much to our detriment."

You want to play "who was the bigger perv", start a new thread.

Clinton obviously had his personal demons, but the country thrived under this leadership.
Trump obviously has his personal demons, was besties with sex trafficker Epstein, and the country is suffering under his incompetence and corruption.

Well, I really don't want to start a thread entitled "Who is the Biggest Perv"?
This thread is not about eating dogs, TESLER, or p*ssy, but that is what was referred to, here, and I responded accordingly.

Clinton was, also, involved with Epstein. I have noticed that Clinton has not had a, single, negative word to say about Trump on the matter of Trump's involvement with Epstein.. Clinton is keeping a low profile.

Clinton did not have the worse pandemic in America in 100 years to deal with, as Trump did.
Clinton had his share of failures.
To understand the complexities of Bill Clinton's presidency, consider the following points regarding its failures:

• The Monica Lewinsky scandal led to impeachment proceedings and damaged his legacy.
• The handling of the Rwandan genocide drew criticism for inaction and lack of intervention.
• Economic policies contributed to income inequality, with benefits not reaching all demographics.
• The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy faced backlash for not fully supporting LGBTQ+ rights in the military.
• The 1994 crime bill has been criticized for contributing to mass incarceration.
• The healthcare reform attempt in 1993 failed to pass, highlighting challenges in policy implementation.

 

[BabaVoss]

Well, I really don't want to start a thread entitled "Who is the Biggest Perv"?
This thread is not about eating dogs, TESLER, or p*ssy, but that is what was referred to, here, and I responded accordingly.

So you are responding to my signature. Ok.

 

[Jay59]

Incorrect.

Did you check the link?

 

[Diving Mullah]

Hello Greenbeard,
When Trump left office in 2021 I believe the rate of inflation was 1.4%, and by June 2022 the rate of inflation was 9.2%. When Biden left office in January 2025 inflation was 3.0%, the same that it is now. Why not give Trump the same amount of time that Biden was given to get inflation down from over 9% and, hopefully, back to 1.4% or lower.

You said you are a trump support which totally explains why you are so bad and facts and truth...so maybe this is akin to throwing raw egg at a concrete wall but here it is...

You're comparing apples to flaming dumpsters.


Yes, inflation was 1.4% when Trump left office in January 2021 — during a global pandemic when demand was suppressed, travel was frozen, and people were hoarding toilet paper like it was bitcoin. That artificially low inflation rate wasn’t some miracle of Trumpian economic wizardry; it was the calm before the supply chain storm.


Then came 2021–2022: global supply chains cracked, pent-up demand exploded, oil prices surged, and war broke out in Ukraine. Biden inherited that chaos along with the economic booby traps buried in Trump's final-year policies — including the botched COVID response, trillions in emergency stimulus checks (which, yes, Trump himself signed and bragged about), and tariffs that jacked up import costs. Inflation was a global phenomenon, not some uniquely American, Biden-born beast.


Now, fast- under Biden, inflation has dropped from 9.2% to 3.0%. That's not magic. That’s coordinated fiscal tightening, industrial investment, and monetary policy doing the heavy lifting without tanking the labor market — unemployment was low, and the economy grew.


So the argument that we should give Trump the same “chance” misses the mark. He had four years and left the economy in a tailspin wrapped in a red hat. He didn’t hand over a golden economy — he handed over a ticking time bomb.


The 1.4% inflation rate wasn’t proof of greatness — it was a side effect of an economic coma. Meanwhile, getting inflation back down without triggering mass layoffs or a recession? That’s the hard part — and it already happened.

We already saw the preview of four years of Trump; two years he rode on coat coattails of Obama, and the other two years were full of crap. Now his first year is already worse than he last two years, and I am fairly sure the next three years will be even worse, but all measurable data.

I hope I cracked the wall a little, but I doubt it

Diving Mullah

 

[Indigo47]

So you are responding to my signature. Ok.

Well, I'm new here and 78 years-old! So, I'm liable to respond anything, while I'm trying to figure things out and, especially, when I can't find my glasses!! Thank you, for your patience and understanding!

 

[Indigo47]

You said you are a trump support which totally explains why you are so bad and facts and truth...so maybe this is akin to throwing raw egg at a concrete wall but here it is...

Now, Diving Mullah, that was not very nice!

You're comparing apples to flaming dumpsters.

I don't think so!

Yes, inflation was 1.4% when Trump left office in January 2021 — during a global pandemic when demand was suppressed, travel was frozen, and people were hoarding toilet paper like it was bitcoin. That artificially low inflation rate wasn’t some miracle of Trumpian economic wizardry; it was the calm before the supply chain storm.

All 50 US states started to reopen, easing the Covid-19 shutdown, in May 2020. ​

I think it it was the state of Georgia that began reopening in April 2020. ​

The rate of inflation in June 2020 was 1.6% ... https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/ ​

Then came 2021–2022: global supply chains cracked, pent-up demand exploded, oil prices surged, and war broke out in Ukraine. Biden inherited that chaos along with the economic booby traps buried in Trump's final-year policies — including the botched COVID response, trillions in emergency stimulus checks (which, yes, Trump himself signed and bragged about), and tariffs that jacked up import costs. Inflation was a global phenomenon, not some uniquely American, Biden-born beast.

Russia would not have invaded Ukraine had Trump still been in the White House. That is merely my opinion, and nothing more than the opinion of others that Russia would have done so had Trump been in the White House.
Biden's energy polices contributed to the higher oil prices.
Fauci and the CDC, contributed to the botching of the Covid-19 pandemic response.
Biden pledged to “shut down” the virus, but certainly did not do so; after all the scorn he heaped on Trump for his sunny scenarios ... Biden, likewise, was too rosy ... only to see extensive spread and a high level of deaths on his watch.
Biden's own stimulus contributed to inflation.

 

[Indigo47]

Now, fast- under Biden, inflation has dropped from 9.2% to 3.0%. That's not magic. That’s coordinated fiscal tightening, industrial investment, and monetary policy doing the heavy lifting without tanking the labor market — unemployment was low, and the economy grew.

So the argument that we should give Trump the same “chance” misses the mark. He had four years and left the economy in a tailspin wrapped in a red hat. He didn’t hand over a golden economy — he handed over a ticking time bomb.

The 1.4% inflation rate wasn’t proof of greatness — it was a side effect of an economic coma. Meanwhile, getting inflation back down without triggering mass layoffs or a recession? That’s the hard part — and it already happened.

Diving Mullah

It took Biden a year for inflation to come down from 9.2% to 3.0%. Trump has not, yet, been in office for a year.

Unemployment was low when people were permitted to back to work, and many worked a low-wage part-time job, along with their full-time job, to make ends meet; not that Biden created a lot of jobs, and wages did not keep-up with inflation.

Trump is not responsible for the ticking-time bomb of the worse pandemic in the US in 100 years, nor for the bad advice that Fauci and the CDC ... the so-called experts ... gave in January/February 2020 (as I alluded to in my prior post).

 

[Indigo47]

We already saw the preview of four years of Trump; two years he rode on coat coattails of Obama, and the other two years were full of crap. Now his first year is already worse than he last two years, and I am fairly sure the next three years will be even worse, but all measurable data.

I hope I cracked the wall a little, but I doubt it

Diving Mullah

Obama made mistakes, the same as every other president.

Trump 2016-2021

Lower crime rate (violent crime down three consecutive years, assaults declined by 6.1%, and the rate of robberies went down 28.2%. The burglary rate dropped 33%, and the rate of larcenies and thefts went down 19.9%)
Far fewer home foreclosures
Far fewer evictions
Lower rate of homelessness (in several states)
Lower food prices
Lower gas prices
Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years
Higher wages
Lower interest rates
Consumer confidence high
Lower rate of poverty
Decline in enrollment in welfare programs
Changes to the tax code (IRS data shows middle class was helped)
Record stock market numbers
As 2019 came to a close, the US economy earned its highest ratings in almost two decades
NATO allies fulfilling their obligations more than doubled
Average FICO Score reached a record high of 710 in 2020.
US-Mexico-Canada Agreement
Stronger military
No war with N Korea (our biggest threat according to Obama in 2017)
N Korea fired off fewer missiles
Removed ICBMs from their military parade
Removed anti-America propaganda posters from Pyongyang.
Trump the first US sitting president invited onto N Korea soil
US and N Korea sign agreement pledging to work toward a lasting and stable peace
Three American hostages and the remains of our deceased soldiers home to loved ones from N Korea
58 hostages home from other countries, without payment.
No new wars
Space Force
Defeating ISIS's caliphate.
Eliminated Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Reshaping the federal judiciary
First president to name an openly gay person to a Cabinet-level position
Made intentional acts of cruelty to animals a federal crimes
Stronger boarder (than prior administration)
Black-owned businesses rose 2017-2019
More black women owned businesses.
Money for historical black colleges, made permanent.
Opportunity Zones
An end to ACA health insurance penalty
Right to Try
Some prescription drug prices lowered.
Reformed Veteran's Choice/Missions Act (so that our vets could see a doctor of their choice with no wait-time).
Veteran's suicide Hotline
Prison Reform
First Step Act
Nominated for three Nobel Peace Prizes
The Abraham Accords
Warp Speed (Covid-19 vaccines in record time)
Donated his presidential salary to benefit the country.
Donated $2 million dollars to natural disaster victims, and veterans charities
Refused his retirement benefits.

Trump named Person of the Year: "For marshaling a comeback of historic proportions, for driving a once-in-a-generation political realignment, for reshaping the American presidency and altering America's role in the world, Donald Trump is TIME's 2024 Person of the Year," Time editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs wrote to explain the selection." ~ end quote

Trump did many good things in his first term, and he deserves the time that he needs to finish what he started, even if things were to get worse before they get better.

I hope I cracked the wall a little, with some facts.

 

[Slavister]

awwww, come in now, there is no "maybe."

"No magic formula can reveal precisely how much the American Rescue Plan fueled inflation, but the general consensus is that it was a contributor. Some economists estimate that it added two percentage points to the rate, some say it added up to four percentage points. Put another way, out of the 8.5% rate in March, the measure accounted for something between one quarter to one half of inflation. In 2021, inflation rose in both Europe and the U.S. But in the U.S., it rose much faster. Both liberal and conservative economists say the faster pace of U.S. inflation relative to Europe shows the impact of the 2021 American Rescue Plan Act:

PolitiFact | Biden’s American Rescue Plan fueled inflation ...

Ok, I agree. Looking at the graph in your article we ran 1-2% higher than Europe. One quarter it was 2.5%.

 

[Slavister]

Did Russia invade Ukraine, 2017-2020? While Trump was president? Nope! So, there is no reason to believe that Russia would have invaded Ukraine 2021-2024 if Trump had still been in the White House. Not sorry... no BS!

Your flaw is that you are ascribing too much weight to who was US President. Not everything in the world revolves around that.

By your logic, Trump is responsible for COVID since he was in the White House then. It's just as dumb a claim. But hey, maybe it's true for all we know - Wuhan lab was put under more pressure to produce results faster under an unstable idiot in the White House and ended up lacking proper safeguards as a result releasing the virus. There you go. Since COVID did not happen under any prior Presidents but happened under Trump it must have been his fault.

And by the way, Russia WAS attacking Ukraine since 2014 in case you did not know. That included Trump time. Did they stop because Trump was there? Nope.

"Former UN ambassador Nikki Haley has also claimed that the invasion “never would have happened” under the former US president’s watch. Haley told NBC’s Meet the Press last week that Trump “countered Russia” with his White House actions, including sanctioning Nord Stream 2, increasing spending on US military and making the country energy independent."

Huh? Haley was just another MAGA playing for MAGA base. Plus she was trying to pretend it was to her credit as part of first Trump administration. You think Trump drilling for oil was stopping Russia from invading Ukraine? She says lots of dumb things too. And both Presidents increased spending on US military, Biden and Trump. Both parties do that.

 

[Indigo47]

Well, I'm new here and 78 years-old! So, I'm liable to respond anything, while I'm trying to figure things out and, especially, when I can't find my glasses!! Thank you, for your patience and understanding!

 

[hooligan]

 

[hooligan]

 

[hooligan]