Portland Oregon Officials caving in to Leftist threats of violence against the GOP cancel the 11 annual "Rose Parade"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...mO0C0vJ8BFVwkax8g&sig2=VtFaeJvSF0IqV0J3WVfNSQ
Portland Oregon Officials caving in to Leftist threats of violence against the GOP cancel the 11 annual "Rose Parade"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...mO0C0vJ8BFVwkax8g&sig2=VtFaeJvSF0IqV0J3WVfNSQ
Right there in the headline it says the parade was threatene by Anti-Facists....Does anti-fascist = Liberal? I am going to assume that YOU are anti-facist.....does that make you a liberal? I am liberal and I am not a fan of fascism, but I've also never theraten to bomb or shoot or burn anyone/anything. So am I one of these people or not?
Portland Oregon Officials caving in to Leftist threats of violence against the GOP cancel the 11 annual "Rose Parade"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...mO0C0vJ8BFVwkax8g&sig2=VtFaeJvSF0IqV0J3WVfNSQ
Right there in the headline it says the parade was threatene by Anti-Facists....Does anti-fascist = Liberal? I am going to assume that YOU are anti-facist.....does that make you a liberal? I am liberal and I am not a fan of fascism, but I've also never theraten to bomb or shoot or burn anyone/anything. So am I one of these people or not?
Antifa is a specific group and, yes, they are liberals of a progressive strain.
It was Jim Garrison who said "Fascism will come to America in the name of Anti-Fascism." That is one of the most accurate statements ever.
Right there in the headline it says the parade was threatene by Anti-Facists....Does anti-fascist = Liberal? I am going to assume that YOU are anti-facist.....does that make you a liberal? I am liberal and I am not a fan of fascism, but I've also never theraten to bomb or shoot or burn anyone/anything. So am I one of these people or not?
While most liberals/progressives/statists/leftists/political class/Democrats that I know almost certainly would not support violence, many seem to forgive it as justifiable anger. And there are some, including some here at DP, who say such is exercise of free speech.
IMO the reluctance of government officials to deal with it emphatically and forcefully, and certainly those who give in to it, only fuels and encourages it. And I am convinced that most of these violent protests are instigated via paid organizers as well as some participating who then stir up mob reaction in others. Funding, organizing, or participating in violence against society should be a felony offense subject to the full force of the law.
And a new trend could be started at Berkeley and other far right institutions who should insist that ALL students show the utmost respect for ALL guests invited to their campus. Make protests demonstrating intolerance socially unacceptable and unattractive to all but the most dedicated low lifes.
What do we want? Dead Cops! .... When do we want them? Now!
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Pigs in a Blanket, Fry'em like bacon!
I see. So that's why we need to resist groups which want to fight workplace harassment against women. Got it, thanks.
Those crazy progressives seem to want to tolerate everything except intolerance. Crazy, huh?
That's what they say, but the fact is that that isn't what most practice. Most demand tolerance for any minority issues but not for anybody else.
They demand tolerance for Muslim's and Palestinian's feelings and issues, but not Jewish or Christian feelings or issues. They demand tolerance for the wants and demands of LGBT people but not patriotic people or Christian people. They condone protests against conservative speakers on campus or a conservative politicians rally or town hall as constitutional right to free speech while condemning those who would protest an abortion clinic or bathrooms not being restricted to a specific gender. There are other examples.
Selective tolerance is not tolerance at all but is intolerance.
It all seems to one sided. One sided in favor of the favorite groups of the left, and no one else.
"Selective tolerance is not tolerance at all but is intolerance."
Definitely accurate. Had these ideas and positions at least be equally applied to everyone, that'd be a completely different matter, and would have more legitimacy.
Conservatives can be as intolerant as anybody but it is an individual and isolated choice of the conservative and not any kind of group philosophy or ideology. Generally, most of us who consider ourselves right of center, if we are going to oppose something, we oppose it for everybody regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, or whatever. If we support something we support it for everybody. We don't single out groups for special criticism or special privilege but believe equality means treating everybody by the same rules.
Antifa is a specific group and, yes, they are liberals of a progressive strain.
While most liberals/progressives/statists/leftists/political class/Democrats that I know almost certainly would not support violence, many seem to forgive it as justifiable anger.
And there are some, including some here at DP, who say such is exercise of free speech.
Many on the Left have also said Trump supporters are justifiably angry about some issues, especially on the economy. Understanding the anger is not equivalent to supporting the actions.
I have yet to see those posters.
Trump supporters and/or conservatives/libertarians in general are angry but they express it via rallies and letters to the editor and to their congressional representatives, and at the ballot box. They don't take to the streets or college campuses to litter, riot, commit arson, mayhem, destroy and loot property, commit assault and/or battery, disrupt traffic and commerce, and terrorize law abiding citizens.
And I have read posts from leftwing extremists who may not actively condone such activity, but forgive it as 'understandable or justifiable anger.'
They are violently radical much like how fascists are violently radical. To point to groups like Antifa and say all liberals are like them would be the equivalent of saying all conservatives are like neonazis (and yes, there are liberals who try to make the comparison). It is toxic. It is dividing. It has no place in political discourse.
Well, it's systemic in liberal academia and in certain places in our country.
The mayor of Berkeley is a member of BAMN, which is one of these groups.
If you had as significant level of violent acts by so-called fascists then you could say it would be the same as saying the same about the right.
However, this doesn't exist.
Most protesters on both sides take peaceful action. There are also some on both sides who act out violently (remember the guy Trump wanted to pay legal fees for assaulting a protester?)
Understanding the anger =/= forgiving the action.
Do not confuse the actions of a single person as typical of a whole group.
And okay have it your way. Those who understand the actions of rioting thugs, therefore forgive them which will be interpreted as condoning what they do.
Understanding the anger =/= forgiving the action.
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