This is the sort of crap that pisses me off. "How to get hormones as a minor without your parents."

[lwf]

In a Marxist worldview, power centers outside the State/community are to be destroyed, and Marx identified those centers. Property owners, business owners, churches/temples/mosques, family units - these were all lined up for destruction under a socialist system. The Communist Manifesto calls for the abolition of the family. By destroying these "systems" and dismantling them, they destroy capitalism. That's the overall manipulation here. In modern terms, the economic classes have been eschewed by the Left in favor of racial classifications.

Democrats are not Marxists any more than Republicans are white supremacists. That you can find a few extremists on either side of the spectrum doesn't mean that they represent the parties as a whole.

Democrats are largely for the same family values and economic policies as Republicans are. They are capitalists and value their families, the families of their neighbors, and their freedom. In spite of the oft-repeated political narratives, Democrats and Republicans are the same people with the same values and their beliefs align at least 90%. Politicians and politically motivated entertainment personalities attempt to magnify our differences in order to frighten us to the polls, but Democrats are your neighbors who want to better the country for their children just like you do. They are not monsters looking to destroy the country. They are educated, and have some good ideas that have contributed to the betterment of the country.

 

[Lisa]

It doesn't go away, but a lot of kids we're learning don't actually HAVE GD they are kids going through being kids and rushed and pushed by activist into making poor decisions that ruin their lives.

NHS could be BANNED from giving puberty blockers to kids by next PM

Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak both questioned the current system after a controversial transgender clinic revealed it will close after a damning report found it was 'not safe' for children.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That thing YOU keep saying isn't happening, is a myth pushed by transphobic haters? Yeah, looks like no, it's a real thing sadly and you were wrong.

Are you ever going to admit you were wrong?

Blockers are seldom used for most trans teens because they are too advanced in puberty. How do you not understand this when you claim to be trans yourself? At what age did you start your transition?


If they were misdiagnosed then the Dr is at fault for malpractice. How is this difficult to understand?

 

[buck]

It doesn't go away, but a lot of kids we're learning don't actually HAVE GD they are kids going through being kids and rushed and pushed by activist into making poor decisions that ruin their lives.

The survey that showed most of the detransitioned realized their GD was actually something else. I posted that when it first came out. You posted it again not too long ago. . So, you are, of Course, correct.

 

[Lisa]

The survey that showed most of the detransitioned realized their GD was actually something else. I posted that when it first came out. You posted it again not too long ago. . So, you are, of Course, correct.

Are you trying to suggest that the misdiagnosis was intentional? Your claim would be libel unless you can prove it was intentional. Did the patient or guardians bring up concerns with the Drs over the diagnosis when their condition worsened?

 

[Renae]

The survey that showed most of the detransitioned realized their GD was actually something else. I posted that when it first came out. You posted it again not too long ago. . So, you are, of Course, correct.

I AM all for people transitioning and being their best selves. 110% support the Transcommunity and my fellow MTF and FTM out there to be their true selves. I also know what the process takes, the long term impact and how terrible it would be to do this errantly and have seen the activist pushers first hand.
They will hurt children for their political cause, and those people are child abusers and those that support them, enablers of child abuse.

 

[Lisa]

I AM all for people transitioning and being their best selves. 110% support the Transcommunity and my fellow MTF and FTM out there to be their true selves. I also know what the process takes, the long term impact and how terrible it would be to do this errantly and have seen the activist pushers first hand.

Are you seriously suggesting that there are trans activists that unethically influence a Dr's diagnosis, despite the many layers of DR-patient privacy? Even that suggestion could be the basis of a multi-million dollar malpractice claim.

They will hurt children for their political cause, and those people are child abusers and those that support them, enablers of child abuse.

That is absurd. Prove it or admit that you made it up. A Drs decisions are not to be based on any politics. Even their own political beliefs are not to have any place in the day-to-day activities or interaction with patients.

 

[buck]

MSN

www.msn.com

health staff felt pressured into pushing an “unquestioning affirmative approach." That pressure was so great, in fact, that other mental health issues would be overlooked when patients were determined to have “gender-related distress.”

We've been assured this doesn't happen.

Finland, France, and Sweden are among the countries that have begun to re-evaluate whether it's such a great idea to push children into gender transitions. The U.K. has now joined them.

Since the article mentions Finland making changes, they are obviously transphobic. That was one of the criteria for Transphobia that has recently been posited in these forums.

Those who think that children suffering from gender confusion should not be pushed into permanent chemical and physical alterations are being hounded into silence. Anyone who questions the excesses of transgender activists and their warped ideology is accused of denying that transgender people exist or of being responsible for suicides.

They must have talked to a couple of individuals on this forum in order to make this statement.

 

[Lisa]

MSN

www.msn.com

We've been assured this doesn't happen.


Since the article mentions Finland making changes, they are obviously transphobic. That was one of the criteria for Transphobia that has recently been posited in these forums.



They must have talked to a couple of individuals on this forum in order to make this statement.

Your source is less reliable than the National Enquirer.

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• Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.

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[buck]

Your source is less reliable than the National Enquirer.

Washington Examiner - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slight to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words

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That's not true at all. But, it's just because you have no idea how to read the link you provided.

 

[Lisa]

That's not true at all. But, it's just because you have no idea how to read the link you provided.

I read the link there are a lot of unsubstantiated opinions and innuendo.

The NHS’s Tavistock Gender Clinic is being closed after an independent review led by Dr. Hilary Cass “highlighted inconclusive evidence to back some of the clinical decision making,” according to the BBC. The clinic had not been keeping “routine and consistent” data on patients, and health staff felt pressured into pushing an “unquestioning affirmative approach." That pressure was so great, in fact, that other mental health issues would be overlooked when patients were determined to have “gender-related distress.”

That does not link back to the BBC.


It links back to the London Times, which is known to have a transphobic bias.

The Editor Of The Times Has Denied It Is Transphobic

Presented at an employment tribunal with examples of its articles about transgender people, John Witherow said: "There is not any trans bias".

www.buzzfeed.com

Referrals to the clinic jumped from 250 a decade ago to 5,000 in 2021. Yet only now has the NHS decided to begin clinical trials following children who were put on puberty blockers. Finland, France, and Sweden are among the countries that have begun to re-evaluate whether it's such a great idea to push children into gender transitions. The U.K. has now joined them.

How is someone pushed into gender transition? Nobody can be forced to take medication and they have the right to refuse or change Drs.

This is from the UK NHS,

You must give your consent (permission) before you receive any type of medical treatment, from a simple blood test to deciding to donate your organs after your death.

If you refuse a treatment, your decision must be respected, even if it's thought that refusing treatment would result in your death or the death of your unborn child.

Voluntary and informed decisions​

For consent to treatment or refusal of treatment to be valid, the decision must be voluntary and you must be appropriately informed:

• Voluntary: you must make your decision to consent to or refuse treatment alone, and your decision must not be due to pressure by healthcare professionals, friends or family.
• Appropriately informed: you must be given full information about what the treatment involves, including the benefits and risks, whether there are reasonable alternative treatments, and what will happen if treatment does not go ahead.

Consent to treatment

Find out what consent is, how it can be given, when it's needed, as well as situations when it's not needed.

www.nhs.uk

 

[Phys251]

I AM all for people transitioning and being their best selves.

You lie.

110% support the Transcommunity and my fellow MTF and FTM out there to be their true selves. I also know what the process takes, the long term impact and how terrible it would be to do this errantly and have seen the activist pushers first hand.
They will hurt children for their political cause, and those people are child abusers and those that support them, enablers of child abuse.

 

[Lisa]

You lie.

Oops.

That's embarrassing.

 

[Renae]

Are you seriously suggesting that there are trans activists that unethically influence a Dr's diagnosis, despite the many layers of DR-patient privacy? Even that suggestion could be the basis of a multi-million dollar malpractice claim.



That is absurd. Prove it or admit that you made it up. A Drs decisions are not to be based on any politics. Even their own political beliefs are not to have any place in the day-to-day activities or interaction with patients.

Yes I am. Because I've seen it first hand. You, are just uneducated on the truth

 

[Renae]

You lie.

How do I lie? Details here, how? Aside not being a bot regurgitating agenda

 

[Lisa]

Yes I am. Because I've seen it first hand. You, are just uneducated on the truth

Oh really. I'm uneducated on the truth? I have multiple trans friends and have attended many trans support groups, but you claim that I'm uneducated. How long have you been on HRT?

Did your supposed "scary trans activists" coerce your Dr and force to you get misdiagnosed? Were you forced to transition against your will?

How do I lie? Details here, how? Aside not being a bot regurgitating agenda

You won't tell anyone what this agenda is because only you have ever heard of it. Is the trans agenda like the gay agenda? Werte you kidnapped one night by black-clad transactivists, given a radical makeover, and forced to transition against your will? Is that how you were told it normally happens?

 

[buck]

I read the link there are a lot of unsubstantiated opinions and innuendo.


That does not link back to the BBC.


It links back to the London Times, which is known to have a transphobic bias.

The Editor Of The Times Has Denied It Is Transphobic

Presented at an employment tribunal with examples of its articles about transgender people, John Witherow said: "There is not any trans bias".

www.buzzfeed.com

How is someone pushed into gender transition? Nobody can be forced to take medication and they have the right to refuse or change Drs.

This is from the UK NHS,

Consent to treatment

Find out what consent is, how it can be given, when it's needed, as well as situations when it's not needed.

www.nhs.uk

You are confused yet again. You claimed: "Your source is less reliable than the National Enquirer." you then posted a link to a bias/fact check site. If you actually knew how to read that site, you would find you are wrong. That is not true. The National Enquirer is rated less reliable, directly contradicting what you claims.

As for your most recent claim, the hyperlink goes directly to the BBC. You must not know how to click on a hyperlink. It can be confusing for some, I guess. This is where the hyperlink directs to:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665

See how it is a BBC website?

And from the BBC link we find, exactly as indicated in the cite I used:

This is from the BBC link:

Earlier this year, Dr Cass's report said there was a lack of understanding about why the type of patients the clinic was seeing was changing, with more female to male patients and more autistic children. Dr Cass also highlighted inconclusive evidence to back some of the clinical decision making.

It was not keeping "routine and consistent" data on its patients

Health staff felt under pressure to adopt an "unquestioning affirmative approach"

Once patients are identified as having gender-related distress, other healthcare issues they had, such as being neurodivergent, "can sometimes be overlooked"

And this is from 'my source', maybe you will notice they are the same - identical.

he NHS’s Tavistock Gender Clinic is being closed after an independent review led by Dr. Hilary Cass “highlighted inconclusive evidence to back some of the clinical decision making,” according to the BBC. The clinic had not been keeping “routine and consistent” data on patients, and health staff felt pressured into pushing an “unquestioning affirmative approach." That pressure was so great, in fact, that other mental health issues would be overlooked when patients were determined to have “gender-related distress.”

So, now the questoin is.. Why do you insist on making shit up over and over? you do it constantly. Try dealing with reality. It's nice here.

 

[Lisa]

You are confused yet again. You claimed: "Your source is less reliable than the National Enquirer." you then posted a link to a bias/fact check site. If you actually knew how to read that site, you would find you are wrong. That is not true. The National Enquirer is rated less reliable, directly contradicting what you claims.

As for your most recent claim, the hyperlink goes directly to the BBC. You must not know how to click on a hyperlink. It can be confusing for some, I guess. This is where the hyperlink directs to:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665

See how it is a BBC website?

And from the BBC link we find, exactly as indicated in the cite I used:

This is from the BBC link:







And this is from 'my source', maybe you will notice they are the same - identical.




So, now the questoin is.. Why do you insist on making shit up over and over? you do it constantly. Try dealing with reality. It's nice here.

The Enquirer is closer to the middle than the Examiner.

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These are major problems,

The Cass review was commissioned in September 2020 amid the rise in demand, long waiting times for assessments and "significant external scrutiny" around GIDS' approach and capacity, the NHS said.
In an interim report earlier this year, Dr Cass said:

• The service was struggling to deal with spiralling waiting lists
• It was not keeping "routine and consistent" data on its patients
• Health staff felt under pressure to adopt an "unquestioning affirmative approach"
• Once patients are identified as having gender-related distress, other healthcare issues they had, such as being neurodivergent, "can sometimes be overlooked"

Con't in next reply.

 

[buck]

The Enquirer is closer to the middle than the Examiner.

A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

• Overall, we rate the National Enquirer Questionable based on the routine publishing of sensational or fake news stories.

These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information reporting that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

• Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.

These are major problems,

Edited to correct the times to the Examiner:

you are still confused. The Washington Eaminer and CNN have the same rating on reliability. The National Enquirer is lower then both.

Let me help you on the reliability issue:

Washington Examiner:



CNN:


Na Enquirer:

 

[Lisa]

T

The Cass review was commissioned in September 2020 amid the rise in demand, long waiting times for assessments and "significant external scrutiny" around GIDS' approach and capacity, the NHS said.
In an interim report earlier this year, Dr Cass said:

• The service was struggling to deal with spiralling waiting lists

This has been a major problem with the NHS for almost a decade.

• It was not keeping "routine and consistent" data on its patients

This is unconscionable. records must be very accurate and up to date to spot any possible problems and to give the [patient the best care

• Health staff felt under pressure to adopt an "unquestioning affirmative approach"

There is a difference between being gender-affirming and being sloppy. There are about 4-6 other conditions that must be ruled out. Body dysphoria, sexual abuse as a child, and gay loathing are among the most common.

• Once patients are identified as having gender-related distress, other healthcare issues they had, such as being neurodivergent, "can sometimes be overlooked"

There is a high correlation between transgender and neurodivergent such as Asperger's and autistic of various levels. But that doesn't mean that they should not be explored further before making the diagnosis of gender dysphopria. The biggest problem is how to weed out religious, political, and social gatekeepers from the medical staff. Once that can be weeded out effectively then the patients will get better care. it is these gatekeepers who have cooked up the nonsense idea of trans activists as a way to rationalize what they do to trans people.

Anyway, you are still confused. The Washington Times and CNN have the same rating on reliability. The National Enquirer is lower than both.

Let me help you on the reliability issue:

Washington Times:
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CNN:
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Na Enquirer:

I didn't mention CCN or the Moonie Times. Try to stay on topic, Please. You have a problem when I expose your sloppy biased source. Stop using them and instead use souces with some sort of journalist standards.

 

[buck]

Nat Enquirer:



See how the Nat enquirer is rated lower? Surely, even you can understand... No?

 

[buck]

This has been a major problem with the NHS for almost a decade.

This is unconscionable. records must be very accurate and up to date to spot any possible problems and to give the [patient the best care


There is a difference between being gender-affirming and being sloppy. There are about 4-6 other conditions that must be ruled out. Body dysphoria, sexual abuse as a child, and gay loathing are among the most common.

There is a high correlation between transgender and neurodivergent such as Asperger's and autistic of various levels. But that doesn't mean that they should not be explored further before making the diagnosis of gender dysphopria. The biggest problem is how to weed out religious, political, and social gatekeepers from the medical staff. Once that can be weeded out effectively then the patients will get better care. it is these gatekeepers who have cooked up the nonsense idea of trans activists as a way to rationalize what they do to trans people.

I don't care about any of that.

You were simply wrong. It really is that simple. You made shit up, got caught then pretended it didn't happen. Stop making shit up.

 

[buck]

I didn't mention CCN or the Moonie Times. Try to stay on topic, Please. You have a problem when I expose your sloppy biased source. Stop using them and instead use souces with some sort of journalist standards.

You were wrong. They are not less reliable than the nat enquirer. You made it up. Entirely and completely. The Washington Times and CNN have the same reliability. The Enquirer is lower (the exact opposite of your claim).

 

[Lisa]

Nat Enquirer:

View attachment 67404106

See how the Nat enquirer is rated lower? Surely, even you can understand... No?

Quote the BBC more and the Washington Examiner less.

 

[buck]

I didn't mention CCN or the Moonie Times. Try to stay on topic, Please. You have a problem when I expose your sloppy biased source. Stop using them and instead use souces with some sort of journalist standards.

Oh, I'll take the blame on this. I labeled it the Washington Times, but meant to lable it the Examiner. THe rest of the information is accurate. You were wrong.

 

[buck]

Quote the BBC more and the Washington Examiner less.

Nope. I will quote what I want. Everything you complained about being in the Examiner was in the BBC. So, your complaints were nonsense to begin with.

Rather than telling me what to quote or not quote.. Why not tell yourself to stop making shit up? I feel that would move this along a lot better.