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This Is Post-Roe America

Loulit01

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In the 13 states where abortion is banned outright, fear and confusion permeate every interaction around the procedure. The bans have fundamentally changed the relationships between doctors and their patients, and the medical choices women are making.


Care that was once available at a routine appointment can become a complicated and expensive endeavor requiring travel many states away. Doctors, clinics and volunteers are struggling to meet the immense need created by that domino effect. More than two years after Dobbs, this patchwork is ripping at the seams.

The stories we found were ones of women getting access — just barely. Of doctors and volunteers white-knuckling it to provide the support, funding, care required. But there are many stories of women who don’t manage to navigate the chaos, who get lost in the fault lines. As recently reported by ProPublica, shortly after Roe was overturned, a woman in Georgia died as a result of delayed access to an abortion. In her story there are echoes of the ones shared with us — unsupervised, she had complications with her medication abortion, like Chelsea. She had to travel out of state but was thwarted by circumstances beyond her control, like Evie. She needed a doctor, like Dr. Kelley, who recognized her situation as life-threatening. She was not as lucky as the women you’ve met here. How many more of her are out there? How many more will there be if we continue down this path?


Get out and vote, ladies. There is no balm in Gilead.
 
It's so sad! :cry: Trump made a horrible unforgivable mistake helping with this Christian Nationalist witch hunt. Now women and children are suffering, losing doctors in the field because let's be honest, who wants all this trouble? Better to be a foot doc.

The worst part is watching MAGA filth justify it, and blame the victims of this shit. They'll be along any minute doing just that. It's as if they think God will protect their children, wives, sisters, or mothers from this shit while just libs take the fall.

FYI, they don't check voter id when you're bleeding out from a miscarriage! They'll regret it like they did with Covid as they suffer from the same shit they were willing to force liberal women and children of rape to endure. Stupid as all get out!
 
In the 13 states where abortion is banned outright, fear and confusion permeate every interaction around the procedure. The bans have fundamentally changed the relationships between doctors and their patients, and the medical choices women are making.


Care that was once available at a routine appointment can become a complicated and expensive endeavor requiring travel many states away. Doctors, clinics and volunteers are struggling to meet the immense need created by that domino effect. More than two years after Dobbs, this patchwork is ripping at the seams.

The stories we found were ones of women getting access — just barely. Of doctors and volunteers white-knuckling it to provide the support, funding, care required. But there are many stories of women who don’t manage to navigate the chaos, who get lost in the fault lines. As recently reported by ProPublica, shortly after Roe was overturned, a woman in Georgia died as a result of delayed access to an abortion. In her story there are echoes of the ones shared with us — unsupervised, she had complications with her medication abortion, like Chelsea. She had to travel out of state but was thwarted by circumstances beyond her control, like Evie. She needed a doctor, like Dr. Kelley, who recognized her situation as life-threatening. She was not as lucky as the women you’ve met here. How many more of her are out there? How many more will there be if we continue down this path?


Get out and vote, ladies. There is no balm in Gilead.
It is literally all about the ladies... if they stood up for their rights then Abortion would not be an issue in the slightest.
 
I do remember ladies in favor of doing away with RvsW celebrating and saying things like "This is going to change everything. It's going to be the year of the mother, Motherhood is going to be recognized again as important, etc..." . They were so affirmative, so convinced. I wrote back then "Ladies, you've been had". I still believe that.
 
I do remember ladies in favor of doing away with RvsW celebrating and saying things like "This is going to change everything. It's going to be the year of the mother, Motherhood is going to be recognized again as important, etc..." . They were so affirmative, so convinced. I wrote back then "Ladies, you've been had". I still believe that.
Abortion has actually increased 11% in the US since overturning Roe. Also on the increase in states with bans on abortion are infant and maternal mortality rates.
 
Abortion has actually increased 11% in the US since overturning Roe. Also on the increase in states with bans on abortion are infant and maternal mortality rates.
I read that last one somewhere and last I checked infant mortality rate were already high in comparison with other advanced nations.
Still, since I firmly believe that the woman herself is best suited to decide if a newborn baby can be cared and loved for, or even simply for the damn right to have the freedom to decide what happens with her body that pricks like us take for granted, I'm the babykiller. Go figure... .

Why did these women believe that they could get help with all matters related to childcare, from a party that doesn't even care about everybody getting healthcare is beyond me.
 
It is literally all about the ladies... if they stood up for their rights then Abortion would not be an issue in the slightest.
Women do stand up for their rights. How do you think we got Roe, the vote, the right to own property, and laws against rape. And getting those rights has always been an issue fought against by many males. Two thousand years as chattel take time to overcome. Sometimes there are set backs.
 
Not enough...

Where is that now?

I am asking for more solidarity...

More solidarity would include admitting that women still arent compensated equally with men for the same work. And let's not forget your "eugenics" thread.

Exactly why the female should either accept or be compelled by law to abort a child that she can not support...

...do you see how stupid that logic is?

Why do you support child poverty?

Women's rights isnt a cafeteria plan.

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Care that was once available at a routine appointment can become a complicated and expensive endeavor requiring travel many states away. Doctors, clinics and volunteers are struggling to meet the immense need created by that domino effect. More than two years after Dobbs, this patchwork is ripping at the seams.
Welcome to gun ownership 🤣 ✌️ :coffee: We humans are so obsessed with our imaginary lines on the ground. Maybe what we need is to cycle everyone through a sub-orbital flight, let everyone see the planet from afar and experience "Overview Effect".

If one State doesn't have what you want, go to another State. That's what everyone wanted, right? Yes, traveling for any medical procedure is a hassle. My father in-law has to do it twice yearly for a back injury so I'm sure women can tough it out 1 time for their procedure. I'm happy to donate to a 501c3 to help them do it, too.
 
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It is literally all about the ladies... if they stood up for their rights then Abortion would not be an issue in the slightest.

"If they stood up for their rights" lol way to victim blame, how about old crusty ass right wing men and religious nutjobs stop trying to take away their rights?
 
Welcome to gun ownership 🤣 ✌️ :coffee: We humans are so obsessed with our imaginary lines on the ground. Maybe what we need is to cycle everyone through a sub-orbital flight, let everyone see the planet from afar and experience "Overview Effect".

If one State doesn't have what you want, go to another State. That's what everyone wanted, right? Yes, traveling for any medical procedure is a hassle. My father in-law has to do it twice yearly for a back injury so I'm sure women can tough it out 1 time for their procedure. I'm happy to donate to a 501c3 to help them do it, too.

Lol now they're for open borders
 
"If they stood up for their rights" lol way to victim blame,
No. Not even a little bit. Way to lash out in anger.
how about old crusty ass right wing men and religious nutjobs stop trying to take away their rights?
There are more women by demographic. There are also more women registered to vote, and women have a higher voter turnout then men.
 
As recently reported by ProPublica, shortly after Roe was overturned, a woman in Georgia died as a result of delayed access to an abortion. In her story there are echoes of the ones shared with us — unsupervised, she had complications with her medication abortion, like Chelsea. She had to travel out of state but was thwarted by circumstances beyond her control, like Evie.
...And shortly after Roe was overturned, thousands of human lives (in wombs) were saved.
 
...And shortly after Roe was overturned, thousands of human lives (in wombs) were saved.

Lives of unwanted kids? Where and how do they end up? Being raised by people that didnt want them or in foster care waiting to be adopted?

You dehumanize the women and the unborn when you reduce them to numbers.

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