This is getting pretty damn scary!!

[volsrock]

and we have some plain old wackos saying that we aren't seeing extremes of weather. That's the problem, too many wackos.

4 Cat 5s at once in 1893, is extreme! How big was Exxon in 1893?

 

[Dittohead not!]

4 Cat 5s at once in 1893, is extreme! How big was Exxon in 1893?

More extremes of weather does not mean that there were none in the 19th. century.

 

[volsrock]

More extremes of weather does not mean that there were none in the 19th. century.

Five Myths About Extreme Weather and Global Warming

 

[Cigar]

Believing in Climate Change or not is no longer worth the debate or argument for me. What important is that my family and I secure safety measures for ourselves and let those who don't, fend for themselves. Just don't come knocking on my door when you're forced to evacuate to locations that heeded warnings and had meaningful regulations.

 

[Dirt Sands]

Hurric@nes are damn scary. I had to ask myself how religious I was two days ago. There's no public transit today in Miami. It's to hot to strole around. Within a three block walk I saw several trees down.

Still a major issue about whether the city was ready. There were major issues with the shelters. People on the street saying they didn't evacuate Miami-Dade because they didn't have a place to put poor people. Also the red Cross seems to be MIA


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[Dittohead not!]

Five Myths About Extreme Weather and Global Warming

Yes, you can find a website that supports almost any opinion.

Are you familiar with this one as well?

 

[SheWolf]

https://qz.com/1072166/irma-jose-and-katia-three-hurricanes-in-one-satellite-image/?utm_source=qzfb
Three hurricanes in a row. Wonder if a fourth or even fifth will form once these move to the west. Is this just normal or might it have something to do with climate change. Of course a lot of you don't believe in climate change, especially those who live in the Southern parts of our country. Well as the saying goes, wake up and smell the coffee.

Are all three going to hit the United States?

 

[Moderate Right]

and we have some plain old wackos saying that we aren't seeing extremes of weather. That's the problem, too many wackos.

Global warming is making weather extremes but man doesn't have much to do with global warming and can have very little to do with fixing it. That's the problem.

 

[FastPace]

Global warming is making weather extremes but man doesn't have much to do with global warming and can have very little to do with fixing it. That's the problem.

What weather extremes did I experience in Milwaukee lately? Just curious because I can remember none.

Is the Climate Change god mad or is the Christian God mad? Is the weather being used to punish man for his sinful behaviors? Behaviors like not using solar panels? Maybe Noah's flood was Anthropogenic Global Warming or whatever the hell it is called.



I bet a Milwaukee or Chicago pimp could talk any number of American women into believing Climate Change only, only, only ever results in all disasters (never flowers, sunshine, and smiles for even a single human anywhere on planet earth) for mankind and at all times man alone causes it, and causes hurricanes and even earthquakes. I bet they could.

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[SonOfDaedalus]

What weather extremes did I experience in Milwaukee lately? Just curious because I can remember none.

I guess that settles it. Fire all the scientists with their fancy degrees. @FastPace has it figured out without some fancy pHd.

I don't understand people who are so confident that they know better than experts in the field.

 

[blackjack50]

Climate changes all the time. Wasn't that long ago we went through a mini ice-age. The question or debate is whether it is the earth going through natural cycles man caused or not. My own opinion is if man is causing climate change it has more to do with man cutting down the rain forests and destroying forests and farm land, vegetation that eats up CO2. Replacing all that vegetation with asphalt and concrete is more of a problem than emissions caused by man.

Making room for urban sprawl, suburbs and cutting down the rain forests leaves less vegetation to absorb the CO2. Since I was born I seen several counties around the city of Atlanta turned from woods, farm land into shopping malls, houses and the like. Now nothing more than asphalt and concrete.

Many folks think I'm crazy. But I wonder if we would be worried about climate change today if we had left all that vegetation sapping up CO2 in place.

I honestly believe that about asphalt. It really seems like that when you get near cities.


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[independentusa]

Wasn't it just two, maybe three years ago you had a tornado go by Milwaukee in January. I would consider that pretty strange.

 

[blackjack50]

I guess that settles it. Fire all the scientists with their fancy degrees. @FastPace has it figured out without some fancy pHd.

I don't understand people who are so confident that they know better than experts in the field.

I actually have a reason on this. If you have heard of the podcast stuff you should know...they covered it. They covered it in their episode on "how to do research." There is a major issue in academia with peer reviewed research. A lot of people in academia are doing unethical things with their research. Maybe not the "majority," but there are plenty who take shortcuts. You know this. I'm sure.

So what happens then? People start to question the validity of the "science." Perfectly logical. Then you get that combined with alarmism in the weather news and people taking this stuff as gospel? And politicians using these studies to push their lucrative contracts/deals/donations? I would say most people are skeptical.


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[Dittohead not!]

Global warming is making weather extremes but man doesn't have much to do with global warming and can have very little to do with fixing it. That's the problem.

So, you accept at least part of science. I guess that's what makes you "slightly conservative." Rush still wouldn't approve.

 

[FastPace]

I guess that settles it. Fire all the scientists with their fancy degrees. @FastPace has it figured out without some fancy pHd.

I don't understand people who are so confident that they know better than experts in the field.

Because scientists claimed homosexuality was purely genetically determined, purely genetically heritable, and I claimed they were wrong (using a little damned common sense, learned on the streets that protects you from pimps, hustlers, and rapists). And you people said the same thing back in year 2000. "How can a scientist be wrong?" And then came circa year 2010 and the whole of the biological science flipped on its head and said no, "we were wrong about genetic determinism, more likely our behaviors and environmental inputs shapes us and influences our genetic expressions to a far greater degree than we once thought." No damn, DUH.

Now, if the old line was correct that Canada is not Egypt and Moscow is not Jackson, Mississippi, and Chicago is not Florida (assuming that is the case), then use a little damned common sense when pimps with Ph.D.'s come yapping their pimp game to you. I don't give a damn if they dress in nice suits and or have smiling Obamas' taking pictures with them.

One essentially claims--the pimps with Ph.D's--the behavioral sins of these people in cars in Chicago and London below... are causing the Hurricanes in the Southern coastal states of the USA. That had not these sinners in Chicago and London not had these damned traffic jams, polluting the air, not a damn hurricane would ever hit Southern Florida.


I don't believe it. Why does not angry Mother Nature take her rage out on the polluting sinners of Chicago and London? (By the way.... it is a sunny and calm weather day out here in Milwaukee today, even with sinners not using solar panels and burning fossil fuels in their cars.)


Now, years ago I read an essay written by a Brazilian military officer on how Brazil should wage defensive war (guerrilla style) against the militarily superior USA and Brits in the event--if his hypothesis were to hold true--that the two nations launch and invasion of Brazil under the pretext of saving planet earth by environmentally saving the Amazon from destruction by the Brazilians. (In this case, such an excuse is only tenable if in fact Chicago is Florida, Canada is Egypt, and Moscow is Jackson, Mississippi. In other words... sinners in Milwaukee are causing hurricanes in Florida.)

 

[Moderate Right]

So, you accept at least part of science. I guess that's what makes you "slightly conservative." Rush still wouldn't approve.

Global warming is undeniable. Only a total fool would claim that it isn't happening. But, man has little to do with the warming temperatures and has even less to do with putting a stop to them. No matter how many quintrillions of dollars you want to spend fighting global warming, the Earth will still be warming. It's like fighting a forest wildfire with a garden hose. Basically as waste of time.

 

[FastPace]

Global warming is undeniable. Only a total fool would claim that it isn't happening. But, man has little to do with the warming temperatures and has even less to do with putting a stop to them. No matter how many quintrillions of dollars you want to spend fighting global warming, the Earth will still be warming. It's like fighting a forest wildfire with a garden hose. Basically as waste of time.

Let me state I'm pro-global warming. As in I want global warming to occur. I'm pro-no human murder on earth too. But I am curious if murders plummet in London does that mean it plummets in Milwaukee--particularly based upon my wants?

But lets get back to global summer, the global tropics, if I want for it to never get cold this January in Wisconsin does that mean it will never get cold this January in Wisconsin simply because I look up at the sky and proclaim a faith in Global Warming and Jesus is God incarnate?

I do have a question about Global Warming as I thought precise measuring of such a thing was notoriously difficult and unreliable. What is the current temperature in mainland USA (not planet earth but the much tinier USA which is a dot on planet earth) today? What was the temperature in mainland USA all last week? The one temperature? Because I was damned cold in Milwaukee last week but it has warmed up this week. But the temperature in Milwaukee is not the USA temperature. So, I'm curious what the USA temperature is. Then you can tell me what the global temperature today at 12PM Central Time was? One thing I don't want is for it to get globally colder. I'm not Canadian, I don't like walking on snowshoes or traveling by dogsled.




That aside.... Chicago closed Global Warming Causing facilities years ago but the current Global Warming sins of Chicago are still causing hurricanes? :shock:

This is more serious than Assad having chemical weapons of mass destruction which we outlaw. The city government of Chicago needs to make automobiles illegal, as all those automobiles anti-Trump people in Chicago drive are weapons of mass destruction causing hurricanes and will end happy days on planet earth.


Closure of Chicago's Crawford, Fisk electric plants ends coal era - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

Closure of Chicago's Crawford, Fisk electric plants ends coal era

Plants were the last coal-fired electric generating plants in a major U.S. city

August 30, 2012|By Julie Wernau | Tribune staff reporter

The Fisk power plant, in service since 1903, burned its final batch of coal Thursday while its sister plant Crawford shut down by Wednesday, ending Chicago's run as the only major U.S. city with two coal plants operating in its borders.

Their closings, confirmed by owner Midwest Generation, eliminate Chicago's two biggest industrial sources of carbon dioxide emissions, which contribute to global warming.

The article--date year 2012--said the two power plants contributed to Global Warming, that is to say they helped cause hurricanes (just not in Chicago, because its not on an ocean). Evidently we need to do more and make automotive vehicles that use fossil fuels illegal in Europe, Canada, and the USA. Maybe planet earth.

 

[Moderate Right]

Let me state I'm pro-global warming. As in I want global warming to occur. I'm pro-no human murder on earth too. But I am curious if murders plummet in London does that mean it plummets in Milwaukee--particularly based upon my wants?

But lets get back to global summer, the global tropics, if I want for it to never get cold this January in Wisconsin does that mean it will never get cold this January in Wisconsin simply because I look up at the sky and proclaim a faith in Global Warming and Jesus is God incarnate?

I do have a question about Global Warming as I thought precise measuring of such a thing was notoriously difficult and unreliable. What is the current temperature in mainland USA (not planet earth but the much tinier USA which is a dot on planet earth) today? What was the temperature in mainland USA all last week? The one temperature? Because I was damned cold in Milwaukee last week but it has warmed up this week. But the temperature in Milwaukee is not the USA temperature. So, I'm curious what the USA temperature is. Then you can tell me what the global temperature today at 12PM Central Time was? One thing I don't want is for it to get globally colder. I'm not Canadian, I don't like walking on snowshoes or traveling by dogsled.




That aside.... Chicago closed Global Warming Causing facilities years ago but the current Global Warming sins of Chicago are still causing hurricanes? :shock:

This is more serious than Assad having chemical weapons of mass destruction which we outlaw. The city government of Chicago needs to make automobiles illegal, as all those automobiles anti-Trump people in Chicago drive are weapons of mass destruction causing hurricanes and will end happy days on planet earth.


Closure of Chicago's Crawford, Fisk electric plants ends coal era - tribunedigital-chicagotribune





The article--date year 2012--said the two power plants contributed to Global Warming, that is to say they helped cause hurricanes (just not in Chicago, because its not on an ocean). Evidently we need to do more and make automotive vehicles that use fossil fuels illegal in Europe, Canada, and the USA. Maybe planet earth.

To play devil's advocate, the left doesn't call it global warming anymore. They call it climate change because they think that man made climate change leads to weather extremes from warmer waters causing bigger hurricanes to Milwaukee actually getting colder due to "climate change". Global warming wasn't working for the left so they changed it's name to explain everything, including colder winters in Wisconsin.

 

[RAMOSS]

To play devil's advocate, the left doesn't call it global warming anymore. They call it climate change because they think that man made climate change leads to weather extremes from warmer waters causing bigger hurricanes to Milwaukee actually getting colder due to "climate change". Global warming wasn't working for the left so they changed it's name to explain everything, including colder winters in Wisconsin.

This is , of course, a horrible analysis. .. because it is not getting colder winters in Wisconsin. The reason of the language shift was politics, nothing more. It's still global warming.. and that temperature shift is being driving by human activity.

 

[Moderate Right]

This is , of course, a horrible analysis. .. because it is not getting colder winters in Wisconsin. The reason of the language shift was politics, nothing more. It's still global warming.. and that temperature shift is being driving by human activity.

Global warming is real but it has happened during the Earth's history when man was not around. Just because it is happening now while man is around is not proof that it is man who is the major cause of it and man can spend quintrillions of dollars fighting it, only to lose the war. You can't fight mother nature. The left is delusional in thinking that you can. The left did change the terminology for political reasons, the main one being they needed a way to explain weather extremes that were colder instead of warmer. They certainly couldn't call it global warming and have people laughing at them.

 

[RAMOSS]

Global warming is real but it has happened during the Earth's history when man was not around. Just because it is happening now while man is around is not proof that it is man who is the major cause of it and man can spend quintrillions of dollars fighting it, only to lose the war. You can't fight mother nature. The left is delusional in thinking that you can. The left did change the terminology for political reasons, the main one being they needed a way to explain weather extremes that were colder instead of warmer. They certainly couldn't call it global warming and have people laughing at them.

Yes, it happens, and there can be natural causes. HOWEVER, in this particular instance, if you look at what the factors are and the components that are causing the earths climate to become warmer at this point in it, it is overwhelmingly human activity, in specific the use of fossil fuels in heating, transportation and manufacturing.

 

[independentusa]

You are the one who is delusional if you think man has nothing to do with global warming. A vast majority of scientists say it is so. But of course you people on the right don't believe in science. That is why you cheered when the GOP fired all of the scientists from the EPA. They are all just left wing goons those scientists. Your non-scientist leaders in the GOP have told you so. And most of the heating and cooling of the planet in the past happened over thousands if not millions of years unless it was tied directly to things that happened to the planet like being hit by a large meteor or having a major volcano erupt which caused a quick change in the climate of our planet . Man has become the event that is causing this very fast heating up of the planet this time, no doubt. But like I have said, you would rather listen to the GOP than what the scientists are telling us. Your children and their children will pay the price.

 

[Moderate Right]

Yes, it happens, and there can be natural causes. HOWEVER, in this particular instance, if you look at what the factors are and the components that are causing the earths climate to become warmer at this point in it, it is overwhelmingly human activity, in specific the use of fossil fuels in heating, transportation and manufacturing.

I just posted this in another thread:

Did it ever occur to you that just the fact that the planet's exponentially expanding birth rate is responsible for climate change all by itself? People breathe in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. As man needs more and more resources just to survive (such as building places to live and work and consuming food and water) along with advances in medicine allowing people to live longer lives "global warming" increases. The solution is simple: cut down the world's population to about a quarter of what it is now.

 

[VanceMack]

This scare rhetoric was identical to the rhetoric being pushed following Hurricane Katrina. This was going to be the ever worsening new norm. Not so much.

Climate changes. It has throughout the history of the planet. It's the one true planetary constant. There will be natural disasters. There will be new record hi temps. There will be new record low temps. There will be seasonal highs and seasonal lows and shifting norms. There will be more natural events of varying severity and there will be periods of lesser events and severity. That's ever and always been the case.


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[RAMOSS]

I just posted this in another thread:

Did it ever occur to you that just the fact that the planet's exponentially expanding birth rate is responsible for climate change all by itself? People breathe in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. As man needs more and more resources just to survive (such as building places to live and work and consuming food and water) along with advances in medicine allowing people to live longer lives "global warming" increases. The solution is simple: cut down the world's population to about a quarter of what it is now.

The birth rate does have an effect, mainly because of the resources yes, but how those resources are being utilized with heating, transportation and manufacturing is what is causing the increase of green house gasses. And, how do you propose 'cutting the worlds population'?? Well, the damage to the environment might do that as an unintended side effect.. but I don't like the idea of having famine and disease do that. It's a good goal, but the issue is 'how do we get there from here'. of course, that is the issue with any of the potential solutions too. Let's face it. Man is greedy, and short sighted. Any solution that gets implemented will be because someone is making more money providing the function/service for cheaper than using fossil fuels. The carbon dioxide of people breathing is just a small small amount of the CO2 that is being put into the atmosphere.

Each person exhales about 2.3 pounds of co2 per her, multiply that by 8 billions, and that is less 920M tones of Co2 a year. other human activity, mostly from transportation, energy production and manufacturing puts out 24 BILLION tons a year.