• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

This is a notable development

LouC said:

This is a notable development.​

Yes it is.

Our Nation appearing to be moving towards further and deeper involvement in the Israel-Iran war is a notable as well as a regrettable development.
Click to expand...

We're moving to assist Israel in fighting against an evil that threatens the entire western world, and Israel should not have to fight this battle on their own. That's why we're getting involved.
 
Ganondagan said:
We're moving to assist Israel in fighting against an evil that threatens the entire western world, and Israel should not have to fight this battle on their own. That's why we're getting involved.
Click to expand...
You'll have to wait 2 weeks...or maybe sooner,...or maybe later..... we just don't know. Stay tuned to find out in the next episode of The Apprentice: White House Edition Part Duh.
 
Brack said:
I don't believe that Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon.
Click to expand...
You are correct. The public has no way of really knowing, but there are legitimate concerns based on its nuclear activities, enriched uranium stockpiles, and their complete lack of transparency with international inspectors. Why do you suppose they are not cooperating with international inspectors like they agreed to do?

But international assessments, including by the US intelligence community, say that Iran’s nuclear program isn’t currently weaponized. Tehran has also repeatedly insisted it isn’t building a bomb.
Still, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t if it chose to.
Iran has spent decades developing its nuclear program and sees it as a source of national pride and sovereignty. It maintains the program is solely for peaceful energy purposes and plans to build additional nuclear power plants to meet domestic energy needs and free up more oil for export.
Nuclear plants require a fuel called uranium – and according to the UN nuclear watchdog, no other country has the kind of uranium that Iran currently does without also having a nuclear weapons program.
Click to expand...

That has fueled suspicions that Iran isn’t being fully transparent about its intentions. Tehran has used its stockpile of weapons-grade uranium as a bargaining chip in talks with the United States, repeatedly saying it would get rid of it if US-led sanctions are lifted.
Click to expand...

 
ScrambledEggs said:
The opprtunity being how easy it is to manipulate Trump
Click to expand...
Yep. Gabbard and the intel community got thrown under the bus post haste.

south-park-bus.gif
 
trixare4kids said:
It is what it is. None of this is Trump's fault.
Click to expand...
Of course. He offered an amazing deal. Some said it might have been one of the best deals ever offered in international relations. Iran said no! BAD MOVE
 
Bok Tuklo said:
The thing about war, people in America seem to forget for some reason I cannot determine, is those you attack fight back.And you don’t get to decide how they do that.
Click to expand...

We have forgotten what started Iran's enmity toward us and the Brits. We are dealing now with the "fight back" and feeling very virtuous about the coming war. This is not smart.
 
Last edited:
trixare4kids said:
You are correct. The public has no way of really knowing, but there are legitimate concerns based on its nuclear activities, enriched uranium stockpiles, and their complete lack of transparency with international inspectors. Why do you suppose they are not cooperating with international inspectors like they agreed to do?



Click to expand...

Of course the elephant in the room is what changed to make this situation much worse than it was under the JCPOA. While there were issues with Iran's transparency under that agreement, it pales in comparison to the complete lack of transparency there is now which is why this situation became much worse. The other question folks buying into the threat being imminent is why does Iran not have nuclear weapons given the fact they've been enriching uranium at higher percentages and enrichment levels? They have had years to do this yet not one weapon that's accounted for, a bit odd, no?

1*HoHmcthkZ2qXuOe0bzBWyA.png
 
weaver2 said:
We have forgotten what started Iran's enmity toward the us and the Brits. Now we are experiencing the "fight back"
Click to expand...
I would argue the Shah of Iran's goverment is better than what they have now and the people that over-thew him are finally paying the price.
 
dmpi said:
I would argue the Shah of Iran's goverment is better than what they have now and the people that over-thew him are finally paying the price.
Click to expand...

This history didn't start with the Shah.
 
Ganondagan said:
We're moving to assist Israel in fighting against an evil that threatens the entire western world, and Israel should not have to fight this battle on their own. That's why we're getting involved.
Click to expand...
Somehow it is difficult to envision Israel as surrounded and helpless.
 
I'm assuming the B-2s can hit Iran from Guam? Or do they have to move closer?
 
Mycroft said:
Each B2 can carry two 30,000lb bunker busters that can each penetrate 200 feet through rock, concrete and steel.

Just think of what twelve of them will do to Fordo.
Click to expand...

Iran had no intentions of using a nuke on the US.

You know how for decades Israel has had to keep looking over its shoulder, always searching every person and bag, fearful of snipers and suicide bombers that no wall has stopped?

That's what our involvement in this "war" would bring here. Low-cost to Iran, paralyzing to the US and our economy. Is this what you want?
 
Ganondagan said:
Israel is surrounded by hostile neighbors, but Israel is not helpless.
Click to expand...
Not kidding. What Israel is tackling and has demonstrated, especially in recent weeks, has been nothing short of remarkable.
 
gbg3 said:
This is important. I don't think much more needs to be said as to the significance of this.

www.foxnews.com

B-2 stealth bombers appear to be on the move hours before Trump expected at White House

Six B-2 stealth bombers appear to be heading toward Guam as President Donald Trump contemplates getting the U.S. involved in the escalating conflict between Iran and Israel.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
Click to expand...
Guam seems to be a strange place to launch airstrikes from on Iran. It would require flying through Chinese air space, then several smaller countries. Or flying around Southeast Asia, India, Pakistan headed into Iran from the south, the Arabian Sea. Flying over China would be a flight of about 6,000 miles and to fly around Southeast Asia, India etc. would add at least another 2 to 3,000 miles more.

Now flying from Diego Garcia to Iran is 3,000 miles. I don’t think Guam is the ideal place to launch an attack on Iran. But who knows?
 
Perotista said:
Guam seems to be a strange place to launch airstrikes from on Iran. It would require flying through Chinese air space, then several smaller countries. Or flying around Southeast Asia, India, Pakistan headed into Iran from the south, the Arabian Sea. Flying over China would be a flight of about 6,000 miles and to fly around Southeast Asia, India etc. would add at least another 2 to 3,000 miles more.

Now flying from Diego Garcia to Iran is 3,000 miles. I don’t think Guam is the ideal place to launch an attack on Iran. But who knows?
Click to expand...
Good call. Might have something to do with Taiwan
 
weaver2 said:
Which is exactly why we do not need to act as Israel's cat's paw and finish their war for them. So who is running our military? Trump or Bibi?
Click to expand...
Or our foreign policy. None of this makes sense if it were a longstanding plan mainly because the US under this administration was running a very different game plan focused on trying to get back into a JCPOA-type deal rather than this kind of action. I'm leaning more on the side of Israel scuttling this deal with this attack much in the same way HAMAS scuttled the deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel with their attack.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom