Things you won't see on the CNN (1 Viewer)

[The face of Jacob]

These videos are the proof that the Palestinians don't want peace but the complete destruction of the state of Israel.

They were obligated in the Oslo agreements to stop all their hatred instigations in their official T.V and not just they didn't do it but they continue doing it and in full intensity.

The videos of the Hamas which is the party that the Palestinians choosed to their government are proving that Hamas strategy for peace is nothing but pure Jihad.

If the asx files don't work for you then you better try see them in the original page at:
http://pmw.org.il/tv.html

"Our happiness will not be complete" until Israel is destroyed

'If Palestine is divided, the entire Arab homeland is sick...'

PA teaches Jews have no history in Israel

Teenagers sing about Israel's destruction and 'returning' to Israeli cities

Child: "We must expel the Israelis"

Song and Dance to Violence

Election Ad on PA TV

Gaza leads to Haifa

Hamas Head: Terrorism will continue

Pre-Election Video

Hamas Lists Mother of Suicide Terrorists as Candidate

Armed Struggle until Destruction of Israel

More terror; Israel will be destroyed

Hamas Strategy For Peace

Mu'min Rajab Rajab Abu Hafs
Prepared before Suicide attack on December 7, 2004
Published on Hamas website in February 2006

Bassem Al-Takrouri & Mujahid Al-Jabari
Prepared before Suicide attack on May 17, 2003
Published on Hamas website in February 2006

Reem Riyashi
Prepared before Suicide attack on January 14, 2004
Published on Hamas website in January 2004

Al-Moayed Bihokmillah Al-Agha
Prepared before Suicide attack on December 12, 2004
Published on Fatach Falcons website in December 2005

PA Subliminal Message Teaches Killing of Jews

Child Soldiers of the PA

PA Teaches Young Children to Replace Toys with Rocks

Kill all the Jews - Words of Palestinian Teenager on TV

Reinforcing the message to children

Young Children Convinced of Death as a Shahid as Ideal

Head of Palestinian children's org: "We Teach Children Shahada"

Yasser Arafat's Message to Children: "Be a Shahid"

An Academic Explains Islam's War with World Jewry

PA Sermon: Blow Them Up in Tel Aviv!

Mother of Suicide Terrorist: Son's Shahada [death for Allah], is a "wedding," a time of joy

Mother of Suicide Terrorist: He told me to "pray for me that I will be a shahid"

Why Mother's Express Joy News of Son's Shahada

Mother who rejoiced at sons' death a role model

Theatrical Skit on Educational TV program My Knowledge, Your Knowledge

Intifada El Aksa

Pure Jew Hate On Palestinian AUTHORITY TV

PA Sermon: Muhammad Warned of the Inherent Evil of Jews

Annihiliation Of Jews On Judgment Day

Kill all the Jews - Words of Palestinian Teenager on TV

There's Nothing That Is Called Israel

PA teaches Children: All Jewish History is Lies

Watch Brigitte Gabriel, she's an Arab woman, listen to what she has to say about the Palestinians

Watch Brigitte Gabriel, she's an Arab woman, listen to what she has to say about Lebanon

IDF Page:
http://www1.idf.il/dover/site/mainpage.asp?sl=EN&id=22&docid=33403.EN

I'll turn this agreement into a curse for them

Palestinain Deception:
Fake In Gazza 1

Fake In Gazza 2

Palestinians hiding explosive belts inside the Ambulance

 

[Joby]

This proves that NO Black People want peace but war with the whites:

http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/

Please, we all know that many Palestinians are not fans of Israel. And I also know I could have gotten elected to congress if voting was on Sept. 12, 2001 and my platform was "Nuke Afghanistan!"

If Israel thinks it can use the Anti-Jewish sentiment THEY mostly created to destroy Palestine, then **** them.

And how are you the face of Jacob? Face of Judah is more appropriate.

 

[DivineComedy]

And I also know I could have gotten elected to congress if voting was on Sept. 12, 2001 and my platform was "Nuke Afghanistan!"

If Israel thinks it can use the Anti-Jewish sentiment THEY mostly created to destroy Palestine, then **** them.

Israel is in the geographical region of Palestine, so they can’t destroy it, silly!

I have never heard Israel say they want to destroy the Arabs, but the so-called Palestinian/Hamas Terrorist State can’t say they never said this:

“The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).” (The Platform of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas))
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html

Israel did not start it:

“Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors.” (ibid.)

“Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war; That this foul deed shall smell above the earth With carrion men, groaning for burial.”

Shakespeare said it best.

No quarter should be given,
Nor any nation forgiven.
Terrorism should die,
All of them their life deny.
Wherever they are found,
Should be put in the ground.
No nation is a friend,
That supports this sin.
Responsibility! Who cares?
Death all terrorist shall share.
Let’s not wait, kill them all!
Cover their havens with a pall.
Give them no quarter,
Forgive them no slaughter.
Give them all a spies lot,
All Terrorist, uniforms or not.
Let no nation deny us war,
This happened on our shore.
(unedited for mistakes as it was Created Tuesday, September 11, 2001, 10:59:42 AM)

I didn’t say anything about nukes. NO NUKES! NO NUKES! NO NUKES!

 

[DivineComedy]

These videos are the proof that the Palestinians don't want peace but the complete destruction of the state of Israel.

They were obligated in the Oslo agreements to stop all their hatred instigations in their official T.V and not just they didn't do it but they continue doing it and in full intensity.

The Palestinian National Covenant and the Hamas Charter of the Palestinian/Hamas Terrorist State are all the proof we need that the so-called “Palestinians” “don't want peace but the complete destruction of the state of Israel.”


Thanks for the videos. Our media doesn’t put much of that stuff on, well maybe some on Fox news, but some of us don’t really need it. Some of us have debated the issues many times and found out for ourselves what the other side thinks; the following is an excerpt from a post to a Muslim that I posted in a topic entitled "new colored forum please" August 30, 2001 10:35 PM on another message board:

Muslim if we keep the quotes from religious texts short in any other topic we won’t get in trouble with the Webmaster and will be able to get to the bottom of our misunderstandings, but since you have moved here we can stay here if you please. I myself can’t understand anyone, like some on this board, who are so insecure in their beliefs or lack there of as to be offended by others simple words…

To understand whether the news I read is incorrect or whether I should think badly of the Taliban of Afghanistan I must have some idea as to how the Taliban thinks. I must in essence read the book that they base their actions on and then if there are a discrepancies between the news, the actions of the Taliban, and the Koran I can then determine if I should investigate further…

It just looks to me like chastisement, and death for nonbelievers here on earth is what is being advocated. If I am interpreting this correctly, that’s not nice. These could easy be misinterpreted, it[sic] that is what I am doing but I really don’t think so, to justify terrorist fanatics.

Even I did not want to "Nuke Afghanistan!"

Then in 2003 I had to ask two questions of “liberals“ on that message board:

“ 2). Why not go on record as to whether you agree with your ‘liberal‘ comrade that Osama is ‘playing by the rules of warfare?’ What about Hamas and other terrorist groups?

This one, believe it or not is fairly straight forward... Terrorist groups fight with the weapons they have available... Hamas and other groups don't have airplanes, tanks and the like to fight the Israelis... So they use the only weapons avaiable to them.... The problem I have is the killing of innocent people... If they want to blow up the Israeli military.. GO FOR IT!!” hftp://tinyurl.com/9l5q3/

I did a juxtaposition, and remembered our troops were facing the same threat from civilian disguised terrorists or what must be war criminals—A cold hard robot probe looking for a salami bomb is all people that support civilian disguised suicide bombers deserve when they approach civilization—I want my civilian clothes respected as civil!

A so-called “Palestinian” on this Message Board once said, “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way.” If that is true then they should be against Muslims using civilian disguise to wage warfare, as it must be against the Islamic Golden rule:

“Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourself."

But, that is not the case:

Okay, I asked the question as to whether the following argument is valid:

Since “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way,“ and since you “believe that 9/11 served the people who want Islam to look bad and justify the war against it,“ and since the 9/11 attackers wore civilian disguise, consequently, the use of civilian disguise in warfare serves the people who want civilians “to look bad and justify the war against it,” therefore, those people that use civilian disguise in warfare are the enemies of Islam.

“Peaceful” Muslim, in your opinion, is that a valid argument?

This is what was claimed to be the answer:

“What i wanted to clarify, if someone is using this method under the name of serving Islam of course they are mistaken tell me something, what good came out of 9/11 if the so called muslim did it for the sake of muslims?? this is why i said those organizations relate in noway to true Islam concepts in War
I know you will relate the same to Hamas actions.. remember when i told you when "if i came to the US and bombed you then call me a terrorist" Hamas at least are resisting in an actual war .If Hamas went to the US and bombed a building there, everybody will condemn that action..”
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showpost.php?p=260851&postcount=125

Since Peaceful Muslim’s answer is vague and totally incompatible with the argument being valid, therefore, the premise that, “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way” must be suspected to be false. Since the principle means of warfare used by Hamas has been the betrayal of civilian clothes, which is a proof of dishonesty, and since Peaceful Muslim says, “If Hamas went to the US and bombed a building there, everybody will condemn that action,” and since Peaceful Muslim has repeatedly avoided condemning the use of civilian disguise by Hamas, and since peaceful Muslim says, “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way,” therefore, it must be true that “Peaceful” Muslim is a hypocrite and or it must be true that it was a LIE for “Peaceful” Muslim to say, “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way.”

“The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest).”
http://www.islamonline.net/english/d...iscover3.shtml

http://www.debatepolitics.com/showpost.php?p=266830&postcount=377

We see the irony of “Muslims” like Moqtada al-Sadr support Hamas civilian disguised terrorism and then face it themselves, but it is not surprising to me.

“On the basis of what we said about Iraq while confronting aggressions, the world now needs to abort the US aggressive schemes, including its aggression on the Afghan people, which must stop.
Again we say that when someone feels that he is unjustly treated, and no one is repulsing or stopping the injustice inflicted on him, he personally seeks ways and means for lifting that justice. Of course, not everyone is capable of finding the best way for lifting the injustice inflicted on him. People resort to what they think is the best way according to their own ideas, and they are not all capable of reaching out for what is beyond what is available to arrive to the best idea or means.
To find the best way, after having found their way to God and His rights, those who are inflicted by injustice need not to be isolated from their natural milieu, or be ignored deliberately, or as a result of mis-appreciation, by the officials in this milieu. They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

It is not surprising to me that I have never seen that quote in any newspaper, and it deserves the question, who are the magical “they” that Saddam said, “should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings?

*****

By the way, the Oslo agreements were a mistake that gave aid and comfort to the enemy as is proven by this quote from CNN:

“Palestinian Cabinet member Saeb Erakat said Wednesday that the United States violated the Oslo peace accords when it seized Abbas.
Erakat pointed to the Israeli-Palestinian interim agreement, covering the West Bank and Gaza, that was signed by the United States, Israel, Palestinian Authority, European Union, Russia, Jordan, Egypt and Norway.
That agreement specified that no member of the Palestine Liberation Organization will be arrested or brought to court for any action that happened prior to September 13, 1993, the day the Oslo accord was signed, Erakat said.” http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/15/sprj.irq.abbas.arrested/

You got nothing from the Oslo accords, so you guys keep your heads down, and don‘t negotiate with terrorists or excuse them like we have in the past and still do.

 

[The face of Jacob]

This proves that NO Black People want peace but war with the whites:

http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/

Please, we all know that many Palestinians are not fans of Israel. And I also know I could have gotten elected to congress if voting was on Sept. 12, 2001 and my platform was "Nuke Afghanistan!"

If Israel thinks it can use the Anti-Jewish sentiment THEY mostly created to destroy Palestine, then **** them.

You didn't relate at all to the post I made.

To say that "The Palestinians are not fans of Israel" is to put it mildly.

Israel accepted the UN decision in 1948 to split the land (although we believe that Arabs got no rights in it, please see below) and only one day after the decleration of the state of Israel in 1948, 22 Arab states with millions of Arabs attacked Israel with its 500,000 Israelis.

The Palestinians already have a Palestinian state in the name of Jordan and they also have the same flag.

Israel went out of Gaza strip 12 months ago and evacuated all its residents from there and what did we got in return? More Kassam and Katusha missiles fired at Israeli cities in the state of Israel, more terror and a Hamas government which is an Islamic Terror Organisation by all definition: both USA and UE.

The Palestinians want to destroy the state of Israel and to wipe the Jews to the sea.

In fact:

There is no such thing as "Palestine".

There was never in the histroy a nation of people in the name of Palestinians.
There was never in the history a Palestinian state.
There was never in the histroy a Palestinian capitol.
There was never in the histroy a Palestinian government.
There was never in the histroy a Palestinian essence.

The name "Palestinians" is coming from the name: Flistins who were tribes from Phoenicia/Crete etc who came thousands of years ago and settled down in the Gaza strip.

Those tribes were gone and vanished and the Muslims who call themselves in the name of "Palestinians" are for sure no descendants of those tribes. The Palestinians are Muslims who came with the Muslim occupation of the middle east from the 6th century A.D. An occupation started by Mohamad who forced his no witness religion on millions of Noachides by the power of the sword.

The Romans are the ones who gave the the name: Palestine to the land of Israel and Wikipedia explain:

It was during this time that the Romans gave the name Syria Palaestina to the geographic area, in an attempt to erase Jewish ties to the land. The Mishnah and Jerusalem Talmud, two of Judaism's most important religious texts, were composed in the region during this period. The Muslims conquered the land from the Byzantine Empire in 638 CE. The area was ruled by various Muslim states (interrupted by the rule of the Crusaders) before becoming part of the Ottoman Empire in 1517.

2000 years before Mohamad invented the Islam, God took out the children of Israel (the 12 tribes of Jacob who God changed his name to Israel later on) from 200 years of slavery in ancient Egypt and he did it with great miracles. It was 3318 years ago.

In fact the Muslims in now days were Noachides who forced to believe in Islam by the power of the sword.

God made a covenant with Noach and his children after the big flood 4110 years ago and commanded them the 7 laws for future living.

Back to the Exodus from Egypt:

Then, in the revelation in mount Horeb, infront of 3 millions children of Israel, they got the Torah with the 613 commandments for their future life in the land of Israel, the land that God promissed that the descendants of Jacob will inherit.

For 1300 years there was an Israeli kingdom (with 2 main expelles, the first in 586 B.C and the last one in 70 A.D and one by the Assyrians) untill the Romans expelled us for 2000 years.

And how are you the face of Jacob? Face of Judah is more appropriate.

I'll explain to you why.

Israel is the new name that God gave to Jacob after Jacob struggled with the messenger all of the night (it's written in the Torah).

In Hebrew: objects, words and speaking have the same root.

Isra=from the root S.R.A and Sarita is striven in Hebrew.
El is God in Hebrew.

The 12 tribes of Jacob/Israel are the ones that God took from that slavery of 200 years in Egypt and took them to land of Israel commanded them to conquer and to settle in it and to live there.

Since then we established an Israeli kingdom, with an Israeli Kings, Israeli governments, Israeli Temples and Israeli capitol and an Israeli essence.

You can't deny it, the histroy knows that.

In 722 B.C, the Assyrians conquered the north of the Israeli kingdom and expelled 10 tribes to Assyria. Those 10 tribes lost their faith and assimilated in the gentile to become gentiles themselves.

The only remaining tribes in the Israeli kingdom were: Judea and Levi.

Levi tribe didn't get an estate of its own in the first place so he was scattered among the other tribes.
Judea was a big tribe who sat in the Judea desert in the south of the Israeli kingdom.

And this is the name Jews. The Romans called us in that name when they destroy Israel in 70 A.D and expelled the Judea tribe to all over the world for 2000 years.

The Jews are people from the Judea tribe who was one tribe of the tribes of Israel. The Jews are the descendants of Jacob which known as Israel.

 

[Volker]

A so-called “Palestinian” on this Message Board once said, “Muslims are against hurting civilians in any way.”

Why do you think, she is Palestinian? I doubt, she is.

Do you want to be named a so-called "American"?
Why do you think it's ok to do so with Palestinians?

So Itamar Marcus, who is the director of the Palestinian Media Watch, which is cited in the initial post, tried to let Palestinians look bad by using schoolbook texts, which were actually written in Jordan and Egypt and were in progress to be changed in Palestine.

You try to make Palestinians look bad by citing a person, who probably is no Palestinian.

The good news is, when Palestine existed for a few years as an own country, this "Palestinian has never been a country" argument will be not only meaningless, like it is now, but it will probably not be used anymore.

 

[DivineComedy]

Why do you think, she is Palestinian? I doubt, she is.

Do you want to be named a so-called "American"?
Why do you think it's ok to do so with Palestinians?

As far as I know it was a member of the KKK living in Idaho:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/228754-post4.html

"She" said "she" was a "Palestinian" later on in the topic, so I’ll take "her" word for it, but since “she” can’t condemn Hamas I see no reason to trust "her" civilian clothes if I see “her.”


http://www.geocities.com/weneedallah/index.html

All I know is what they tell me, like what the so-called “Muslim” said (August 30, 2001 03:50 PM | From: orlando, florida ,usa) before the war, and then I remember the others that posted in defense of the Taliban too mysteriously at the same time, and disappeared too, never to post again. And all I know is what I saw when I followed the bloody link, to link, to link, after September 11, 2001. So I see no reason not to question the magical “they!”


*****

According to the PLO’s own original definition Jews living in Palestine must be Palestinians:

“Article 6: The Palestinians are those Arab citizens who were living normally in Palestine up to 1947, whether they remained or were expelled. Every child who was born to a Palestinian Arab father after this date, whether in Palestine or outside, is a Palestinian.
Article 7: Jews of Palestinian origin are considered Palestinians if they are willing to live peacefully and loyally in Palestine.“ http://www.palestine-un.org/plo/pna_two.html

Now, if we say the Palestinians want to destroy Israel that is like saying Americans want to destroy Jewish Americans, when it is clear some so-called “Americans” do want to destroy Jews, as I read Mein Kampf when a member the KKK gave it to me to read.

Those so-called “Americans” that support the use of civilian disguise to facilitate warfare are just that.

The Palestinian Arabs deserve a State next to the State of Israel in Palestine, the so-called “Palestinians“ that voted for PLO/Hamas terrorism deserve nothing.

 

[Volker]

As far as I know it was a member of the KKK living in Idaho:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/228754-post4.html

"She" said "she" was a "Palestinian" later on in the topic, so I’ll take "her" word for it, but since “she” can’t condemn Hamas I see no reason to trust "her" civilian clothes if I see “her.” Did she? I did not notice it. I was surprised, that she talked about about the Palestinians as "they", not "us" and then she was "why we voted Hamas", but I took it as a Moslem "we", not a Palestinian "we".

According to the PLO’s own original definition Jews living in Palestine must be Palestinians:

“Article 6: The Palestinians are those Arab citizens who were living normally in Palestine up to 1947, whether they remained or were expelled. Every child who was born to a Palestinian Arab father after this date, whether in Palestine or outside, is a Palestinian.
Article 7: Jews of Palestinian origin are considered Palestinians if they are willing to live peacefully and loyally in Palestine.“ http://www.palestine-un.org/plo/pna_two.html

This is my understanding, too. But this only refers to the Jewish population and their progeny living their in 1947. The number of Isralian inhabitants is eight times higher today than it was in 1947.

Now, if we say the Palestinians want to destroy Israel that is like saying Americans want to destroy Jewish Americans, when it is clear some so-called “Americans” do want to destroy Jews, as I read Mein Kampf when a member the KKK gave it to me to read.

No, Israel is a country. The Israelian population is 76 % Jewish, but there are other groups as well being part of it.

Those so-called “Americans” that support the use of civilian disguise to facilitate warfare are just that.

They call it the CIA :mrgreen:

The Palestinian Arabs deserve a State next to the State of Israel in Palestine, the so-called “Palestinians“ that voted for PLO/Hamas terrorism deserve nothing.

Oh, I see, you use the word Palestinians in a different way, which refers more to political movements.

 

[Joby]

In 722 B.C, the Assyrians conquered the north of the Israeli kingdom and expelled 10 tribes to Assyria. Those 10 tribes lost their faith and assimilated in the gentile to become gentiles themselves.

The only remaining tribes in the Israeli kingdom were: Judea and Levi.

Yes, they are the 10 "Lost" Tribes, but they must be regathered for "Israel" to properly be created again.

Isn't it a Christian belief that they will be regathered after the Second Coming of Christ? Is there a Jewish belief on the subject?

You can't deny it, the histroy knows that.

Not at all. I'm not saying that the Israelites did not have an empire, and I'm certainly not one of those people who try to prove that the Bible was made up hundreds of years after the fact.

I can't stand those people...

The Jews are people from the Judea tribe who was one tribe of the tribes of Israel. The Jews are the descendants of Jacob which known as Israel.

The Jews certainly have a claim on Israel, no doubt. All I am saying is it's possible they aren't the only people out there with a claim on, say, uncle Dans Tel up north. The people who are descendants of the Northern Tribes may be just that, but have no idea they are because of the 2700 years of space.

There is no such thing as "Palestine".

There was never in the histroy a nation of people in the name of Palestinians.
There was never in the history a Palestinian state.
There was never in the histroy a Palestinian capitol.
There was never in the histroy a Palestinian government.
There was never in the histroy a Palestinian essence.

There was never a nation called "America" until the people living there united under one banner against a common enemy.

 

[The face of Jacob]

Yes, they are the 10 "Lost" Tribes, but they must be regathered for "Israel" to properly be created again.

Not at all. They stopped being Jews at the time they assimilated with the gentiles. Jews who become Gentiles are not consider to be Jews no more and they are lost. Jews continue to live in the Israeli kingdom for hundreds of years after these 10 tibes were lost.

Jews don't need a permition from nobody to live in the land of Israel anytime they like. In fact it's a commandment from the Torah to live in Israel.

Isn't it a Christian belief that they will be regathered after the Second Coming of Christ? Is there a Jewish belief on the subject?

I'm a Jew and not a Christian.

Regarding the reference of Judaism in that subject then as I've told you before they lost with the gentiles and the ones who continue with their Jewish essence (like me) are the ones who are living today.

Not at all. I'm not saying that the Israelites did not have an empire, and I'm certainly not one of those people who try to prove that the Bible was made up hundreds of years after the fact.

I can't stand those people...

The Jews certainly have a claim on Israel, no doubt. All I am saying is it's possible they aren't the only people out there with a claim on, say, uncle Dans Tel up north. The people who are descendants of the Northern Tribes may be just that, but have no idea they are because of the 2700 years of space.

The Jews are the owner of the land of Israel but it doesn't sais that other nations can't live in the land of Israel. They can but only if they follow the 7 laws of the covenant between God and Noach and his children. Those people are called Gerim (Ger Zedek). Today the state of Israel is a Jewish and a democratic state which mean that the state allows the freedom of worship to the ones who aren't Jews. As you may know, 20% of the Israeli citizens aren't Jews but most of them are Muslims and the rest are Christians, Druze etc. who have the same rights as the Jews.

Islam and Christianity consider in Judaism to be a strange worship (Avodah Zara) and nevertheless we let them live their own lives as they wish.

There was never a nation called "America" until the people living there united under one banner against a common enemy.

You are right cause the Americans were Europeans who conquered America and killed lots of Indians in the opposite of the 7 laws that God gave them Noachides. As Noachides they must spread in the universe cause God commanded them but not to kill each other.

The land of Israel is a different case cause God declared it belong to us and he commanded us to conquer it and to settle down in it and to have it as the home to our nation.

BTW Joby, are you Syrian?

 

[Joby]

Not at all. They stopped being Jews at the time they assimilated with the gentiles. Jews who become Gentiles are not consider to be Jews no more and they are lost. Jews continue to live in the Israeli kingdom for hundreds of years after these 10 tibes were lost.

And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Ezekiel 37:22

Here's a link to something I read on the subject:
http://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/0208/0208h.html

I find the discussion fascinating, and I believe that all 12 Tribes of Israel will be gathered again at a later date. Chances are, God only knows when that might happen, and as for right now I'm not stressing out over it.

Oh, and no...I'm not. I respect Assad because of how he united Syria and how he led them. I'm not a Baathist, but I respect how every other leader got their butts kicked by Israel, while he at least made it a contest.

No offense to you or anyone who may have died in the Yom Kippur War, it's just that I respect his leadership in what is otherwise a sea of chaos.

As for that Assad in power today, you have little to worry about. He is there because his father was, and would otherwise have been a farmer. Syria has pretty much gone back to being a rottin log next to the beehive of Israel. He does have Sarin and VX, but Israel would of course respond harshly if he even considered the option.

 

[The face of Jacob]

And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Ezekiel 37:22

Here's a link to something I read on the subject:
http://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/0208/0208h.html

I find the discussion fascinating, and I believe that all 12 Tribes of Israel will be gathered again at a later date. Chances are, God only knows when that might happen, and as for right now I'm not stressing out over it.

As I've told you before those Jews who belonged in the past to the 10 tribes are not Jews anymore, I mean I'm sure they have descendants today but they aren't Jews.

Regarding the Jewish Halacha there is no such thing as "Messianic Jews", they aren't consider as Jews according the Jewish Halacha but Christians.

Ezekiel is talking about the 2 nations because at his time the northian tribes splited because they said that Rechavam the king is forced them heavy taxes.

That was in 922 B.C. (before the Assyrians expelled the 10 tribes).

Indeed the quote you brought from Ezekiel is true. Ezekiel lived at the times of the first temple and he talked about time in the future when the Jews will be united again in Israel.

In the end of all time all the people in the world will gather arround God and will come and worship him in the temple in Jerusalem. Those gentiles will postpon their wrong religions/images they ascribed to themselves through they years and will return to the covenant of the 7 laws.

This will be after the Gog & Magog war (which according to the Rabbis had already started) and when the Jewish Mashiach will come and do 3 things:

1. Built the temple in Jerusalem.
2. Gather all the rest of the Jews to the land of Israel.
3. Will guide the "Wars Of God" to restore the greater Israel.

 

[Volker]

Oh, and no...I'm not. I respect Assad because of how he united Syria and how he led them.

Oh, I see, now this explains your avatar.

 

[PeteEU]

What you also dont see on CNN or any other US TV station is settlers claiming devine right over all that is called greater Isreal, justifying attacks on Palestinians and other arabs, or of course the classic when IDF beat the crap out of Palestinians at check points and other places.. but hey live in your dream world.

 

[The face of Jacob]

What you also dont see on CNN or any other US TV station is settlers claiming devine right over all that is called greater Isreal, justifying attacks on Palestinians and other arabs, or of course the classic when IDF beat the crap out of Palestinians at check points and other places.. but hey live in your dream world.

First of all all the Jews in Israel (and even in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Beer Sheva etc) are settlers too.

The settlers don't have to claim that cause It's true and I, who ain't a settler and lives in Tel Aviv also claim that. The British and the UN made a big mistake when they decided to devide the land into 2.

The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are parts of the land of Israel and they are in the land of Israe and as I've said before the Muslims doesn't have any rights in the land of Israel although I respect their presence their as long as they will stop their terror against us.

When the Palestinians are talking about 'occupation' they are not talking about the West Bank and the Gaza Strip cause we ain't controlling their but they are talking about all the state of Israel. The Palestinians don't want to build their own country in the West Bank and in the Gaza Strip but to ruin the Jewish state.

Please don't blame Israel on the check points. The check points were built to defend Israel from suicide bombers who blow themselves up in Israel civil facilities while we let them enter Israel to work and to feed their families.

The check points are to stop those kind of people:

14 Years old!

Gun battle at Erez crossing; 2 terrorists killed

Palestinian men seized with bombs

Bomber nabbed en route to attack

Purim terror attack thwarted

Would-be bomber sentenced to 12 years



I'm not living in a dream but our enemies are the ones who are living in a dream of lies and hypocricy.

 

[Joby]

What you also dont see on CNN or any other US TV station is settlers claiming devine right over all that is called greater Isreal, justifying attacks on Palestinians and other arabs, or of course the classic when IDF beat the crap out of Palestinians at check points and other places.. but hey live in your dream world.

Israels hands aren't completely clean in this war, like the CNN and others make you believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra-Shatila_massacre

That said, I personally believe this incident, and others, caused Israel to clean up their image. With a few exceptions, it seems Israel is no longer bent on wiping out the Palestinians but simply removing the terrorist element.

 

[The face of Jacob]

Israels hands aren't completely clean in this war, like the CNN and others make you believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra-Shatila_massacre

That said, I personally believe this incident, and others, caused Israel to clean up their image. With a few exceptions, it seems Israel is no longer bent on wiping out the Palestinians but simply removing the terrorist element.

Joby, the Sabra and Shatila massacre was a massacre done by Christian Arabs toward Muslim Arabs.

If Israel would have known that the Falangot are going to do the massacre she wouldn't let them into the camps.

The Falangot lied to the Israelis.

I think you are trying to compare the acts of Israel in the war on terror to the terror itself and that comparison is not logic at all.

 

[Uncle]

First of all all the Jews in Israel (and even in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Beer Sheva etc) are settlers too. No they are not - They are invaders.

The settlers don't have to claim that cause It's true and I, who ain't a settler and lives in Tel Aviv also claim that. The British and the UN made a big mistake when they decided to devide the land into 2. The "mistake", as you so glibly put it, was the Balfour Declaration and the giving to the jews the land that they did and the power to rule over all of Palestine in the UN Partition Plan of 1947. A further "mistake" is the U.S. giving billions of dollars annually in military aid to Israel who has over 400 nukes and the strongest military in the mid east. The "mistake" is the existence of the rouge state of Israel on Palestinian land - land that was for 1200 years Arab.

The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are parts of the land of Israel and they are in the land of Israe and as I've said before the Muslims doesn't have any rights in the land of Israel although I respect their presence their as long as they will stop their terror against us. I suspect that your "respect [for] their presence their [sic]" is under the condition that they be subservient to your people. Your Talmud teaches that they and all Gentiles, are cattle and should be treated as such. The truth is, jews have no right to any part of Palestine, or for that matter, any part of the mid east.

If this were Christians, Muslims or any other religious people other than jews claiming that land because it was granted to them by God they would be assaulted and told that there racist hatred was the reason for wanting it, and that God loves every body and so we should all just learn to forget about our religious beliefs and live peacefully among our enemies. But since it is jews claiming a right under God, then they are cheered on.

When the Palestinians are talking about 'occupation' they are not talking about the West Bank and the Gaza Strip cause we ain't controlling their but they are talking about all the state of Israel. The IDF does control the West Bank and the Gaza Strip as they have shown in the last few days by bombing Gaza and cutting off water, electricity, food, medical and other nessessities for survival. The Palestinians don't want to build their own country in the West Bank and in the Gaza Strip but to ruin the Jewish state. Look at a map from 1947 showing what Israel was granted and look at another recent map. How can the Palestinians build their own land when your people are constantly changing the borders and taking more and more from them? How can they build their own country when jews and the IDF live among them? How can they live in peace with the IDF constantly aiming guns and bombs at them? How much longer can Israel claim victimhood while constantly victimizing the Arabs? Since 1948, your people have held a gun to the heads of the Palestinians, and it angers your people that they will not just lie down for the massive killings put upon them by yours.

Please don't blame Israel on the check points. Why not? They built them. The Arabs have no check points to keep the jews from driving bulldozers through their homes or to stop the Israeli military from, at will, entering and killing palestinians. Besides, being human bombs is the only way they have of fighting back against the terrorist aggresors who are the zionist.The check points were built to defend Israel from suicide bombers who blow themselves up in Israel civil facilities while we let them enter Israel to work and to feed their families. And deny them health care and shoot their children as they approach these check points.

The check points are to stop those kind of people:

14 Years old!

Gun battle at Erez crossing; 2 terrorists killed

Palestinian men seized with bombs

Bomber nabbed en route to attack

Purim terror attack thwarted

Would-be bomber sentenced to 12 years

But who is going to stop these people?

http://69.28.73.17/documentaries.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world...--protocols_of_the_learned_elders_of_zion.htm

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/benjamin_h_freedman_on_zionism.htm

http://world.mediamonitors.net/headlines/israeli_asher_karni_nuclear_terrorism_network



I'm not living in a dream but our enemies are the ones who are living in a dream of lies and hypocricy. Huh? This is a lie.

As Jesus said, you are the children of Satan, and because He recognized you as such, yours strive to destroy all knowledge of Him.

Your people kill without conscience and are a selfish hate filled people.

 

[::Major_Baker::]

As Jesus said, you are the children of Satan, and because He recognized you as such, yours strive to destroy all knowledge of Him.

Your people kill without conscience and are a selfish hate filled people.

....he says as he wanders back to one of his racist posts.....

 

[cherokee]

And at the end of the day the Pal's would rather live in war then peace.
They would rather b.itch about how poor they are instead of getting off their lazy a$$es and building a country of their own.

I guess next you people will preach about how peaceful Islam is?..:roll:

 

[The face of Jacob]

As Jesus said, you are the children of Satan, and because He recognized you as such, yours strive to destroy all knowledge of Him.

Your people kill without conscience and are a selfish hate filled people.

lol. Jesus didn't say anything but his Roman pagans who wrote the books years after his death.

Jesus was a jew. And as a Jew he had to follow the commandments in the Torah which was given by God to the children of Israel 1300 years before his time. Jesus turn to strange worship (Avoda Zara) and did things which the Torah forbidden him as a Jew to do and in the last he was judged because he enchanted, incited and rinsed the nation of Israel to strange worship and this is why he was sentenced to death.

If the Israeli nation would have go after him then the end of that nation whould have been like the end of Koresh and his Davidians group.

300 years after his death, came Romans like you who turn him into God (which is idol worshiping by all definition) "relying" on Hebrew scriptures that they didn't understand and they twisted and distorted and with stealing 75% of the Pagan religion, they burned people for practicing it in the upcoming 2000 years.

So who's the devil now? ha? dear Uncle?? :2wave:
(BTW, there are no such things as Devils).

Go and learn the histroy, young Noachide!

 

[Uncle]

First, the Virgin Mary, (who your books refer to as a harlot and a whore), was from the tribe of Levi, not Judah, therefore Jesus was not a jew, but a Levite in His earthly form.

Secondly, the New Testament, just like your Torah, (the first 5 books of the Old Testament) was handed down by oral teachers long before being written.

Thirdly, I am not a Noachide, I am an Israelite. For those of you who don't know, don't get that mixed up with Israeli.

Fourthly, todays jews are not descendants of Israel, (Jacob, whose name you are using), but are originally from Kazaar. There are some who come from Judah, but the ones attached to Israel are from Kazaar.

lol. Jesus didn't say anything but his Roman pagans who wrote the books years after his death.

I know this is the new assault on Christianity, claiming that it originated in Paganism, but any true Christian will dismiss your words quite quickly. And Jesus said many things against the jews, denouncing them. That is why your people called for His execution.

Now, if you would like to get back on topic, respond to the meat of my post.

 

[Joby]

First, the Virgin Mary, (who your books refer to as a harlot and a whore), was from the tribe of Levi, not Judah, therefore Jesus was not a jew, but a Levite in His earthly form.

Can you please back up the fact that Jesus was a Levite with scripture?

Fourthly, todays jews are not descendants of Israel, (Jacob, whose name you are using), but are originally from Kazaar. There are some who come from Judah, but the ones attached to Israel are from Kazaar.

Please explain. I don't believe every Jew is a diresct descendant of Judah, just like every Palestinian is certainly not a descendant of Ishmael.

And Jesus said many things against the jews, denouncing them. That is why your people called for His execution.

Please. Jesus said many things against the hypocrisy of the Philistines, but do not confuse this with the Jews as a whole. Those Philistines received their punishment from the Romans in 70 AD. As for the Jews as a whole, it was not until pauls vision, many years following Jesus' death (of course, Paul was Saul when he died), that he learned that God wanted him to begin to do missionary work among the Gentiles

I'm a Christian, so Face of Jacob feel free to ignore this information in light of what you personally know to be true.

 

[Joby]

oh, and as for the Sabra and Shatila massacres, the common belief, true or not, is that Ariel Sharon pretty much turned his back to the camps while the Druze murdered the civilians because he was tired of the terrorist element coming out of the camps.

 

[Volker]

oh, and as for the Sabra and Shatila massacres, the common belief, true or not, is that Ariel Sharon pretty much turned his back to the camps while the Druze murdered the civilians because he was tired of the terrorist element coming out of the camps.

No, these were not the Druzes. The Israelian troops surrounded the camps, let their allies in and put light on it at night. These, who did the crimes, where Lebanese Christian fascists. What Israelian troops did, can be called active participation. It went on for three days and Israelian commanders knew what's going on there.

On September 16, Brigadier General Amos Yaron, Israel’s Beirut forces commander, acting on orders from the Israeli Ministry of Defense under General Ariel Sharon, allowed Lebanese Phalangist troops to enter Sabra and Shatila even though the same troops had previously engaged in massacres of Palestinians living in Lebanon. The killing in the camps went on for three days. During nighttime Phalangist operations, Yaron’s troops fired illumination rounds so the Phalangists could continue their atrocities. Yaron’s troops also blocked the camps’ exits to prevent the refugees from escaping and supplied the Phalangists with at least one bulldozer, which was used to cover bodies with rubble.

According to the official Israeli Commission of Inquiry into the massacre (the so-called Kahan Commission), on the evening of September 16 Yaron was present on the roof of the Israel Defense Force (IDF) forward command post overlooking Shatila. He knew then that Phalangist militiamen, who had entered the camps by prior arrangement with the IDF, were killing women, children, and old people. Not until the morning of September 18 did Yaron move to end the killings. Israeli military intelligence later minimized the death toll to between 700 and 800. In his testimony to the Kahan Commission, Yaron said he was “happy” about the decision to send the Phalangist forces into the refugee camps because “the fighting serves their purposes as well, so let them participate and not let the IDF do everything.”

http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/images/policybrief.php?ID=6

Amos Yaron is now retired, he was the Director General of the Ministry of Defense until last year.

http://www.securityfence.mod.gov.il/Pages/ENG/news.htm#news29