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"They're turning the whales gay!"

Considering that same-sex mating behavior is biologically hardwired as a phenotypic expression of sexuality in mammals this does not surprise me. There is a species of ram that we use as a model for understanding the homosexual phenotype as 10% of them solely mate with other males. Since homosexuality is a variation in human biology it shouldn't be a shock to see it in nearly all other species that have binary gender mating instincts.
The biblical view is that animals are animals and man was created separately in the image of GOD from the dust of the ground.
 
I am against only those relationships where either intended is of a different faith, and where the relationship between the two doesn't illustrate the original relationship concept as GOD created marriage originally.
So you can't connect it to the creation you have to say something else.
It isn't a matter of what you or I want. It is entirely a matter of what GOD intended.
With God the intend some of us to be gay we wouldn't be.
 
BUT GOD IS the answer.
And they can seek him out themselves they don't need you interpreting God's intent.
And why should an ATHEIST be able to always fall back on his Marco-Evolution and Scientific interpretations of data. Isn't that essentially the very same thing. Are they not "stuck up."
I don't think anybody who understands evolution falls back on that as an answer to anything it's more just an answer of how we got here. It's not an answer for every question someone asked
 
The biblical view is that animals are animals and man was created separately in the image of GOD from the dust of the ground.
That is not based on reality. You might as well believe in Santa, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny as believe the bible is objectively true.
 
The biblical view is that animals are animals and man was created separately in the image of GOD from the dust of the ground.

Sexuality in humans is similar to what occurs in other mammals, it's instinctive reproductive programming.
 
So you can't connect it to the creation you have to say something else.

With God the intend some of us to be gay we wouldn't be.
This is a fallacy. That's a bit like saying GOD intended some to be murders, spiteful, arrogant, cruel, selfish ---- because if GOD didn't intend for people to be that way, they wouldn't be. Sorry, but between sin and redemption you seem to be overlooking something...
 
Sexuality in humans is similar to what occurs in other mammals, it's instinctive reproductive programming.
Man is a thinking being. Animals act upon instinct. An animal doesn't reason that a particular act maybe unhealthy. A human can imagine/reason that eating turds is going to be harmful... An animal doesn't consider that there are two sexes (male & female) --- they simply try them all out and things happen. What animal has ever built a church or a hospital?
 
Man is a thinking being. Animals act upon instinct. An animal doesn't reason that a particular act maybe unhealthy. A human can imagine/reason that eating turds is going to be harmful... An animal doesn't consider that there are two sexes (male & female) --- they simply try them all out and things happen. What animal has ever built a church or a hospital?
Humans ARE animals, and several animals ARE thinking beings. Whales for example are very intelligent animals. And animals do know there are two sexes.
 
This is a fallacy. That's a bit like saying GOD intended some to be murders, spiteful, arrogant, cruel, selfish ---- because if GOD didn't intend for people to be that way, they wouldn't be. Sorry, but between sin and redemption you seem to be overlooking something...
Sorry little nipper I prayed to God for decades about this. He just makes some of us to be gay. No amount of trying to rationalize your position will work. I figure he makes some of us gay to help you understand it all doesn't work the way you want it to. When you let go of trying to control things and simply let God work through you, you'll see.

I can forgive you because you don't understand. God made you to be the person you are. Just like he made me to be the person I am. I wouldn't be this person without my beautiful spouse. God placed him in my life he came crashing into it and was what I needed before I even knew.

So don't presume to speak for God and talk rubbish at the same time. I see right through that. Maybe we are here to help you.
 
Sorry little nipper I prayed to God for decades about this. He just makes some of us to be gay. No amount of trying to rationalize your position will work. I figure he makes some of us gay to help you understand it all doesn't work the way you want it to. When you let go of trying to control things and simply let God work through you, you'll see.

I can forgive you because you don't understand. God made you to be the person you are. Just like he made me to be the person I am. I wouldn't be this person without my beautiful spouse. God placed him in my life he came crashing into it and was what I needed before I even knew.

So don't presume to speak for God and talk rubbish at the same time. I see right through that. Maybe we are here to help you.
His god even made many people transgender and gay, but not that you would understand.

Gay brain, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-84496-z

Transgender brain, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/
 
Man is a thinking being. Animals act upon instinct. An animal doesn't reason that a particular act maybe unhealthy. A human can imagine/reason that eating turds is going to be harmful... An animal doesn't consider that there are two sexes (male & female) --- they simply try them all out and things happen. What animal has ever built a church or a hospital?
Yes I can try and date a woman and that isn't right. It's bad for her and it's bad for me. Any time I went in a date with them I felt so bad. They were so excited it hurt to tell them I couldn't see them any more. But it wasn't fair to them.

Your path leads to doom for some people nipper. You need to get that somehow.
 
Instincts are for animals and are not unflawed because sin is prevalent. Sex between two of the same sex is illogical as it doesn't contribute to procreation...
Per this logic, it is then illogical for a woman who has lost her uterus, or a man who has lost his testicles to have sex as it does not contribute to procreation.
 
Instincts are for animals and are not unflawed because sin is prevalent. Sex between two of the same sex is illogical as it doesn't contribute to procreation...
Since when has "having a good time" not been logical?
 
Why would a husband and wife continue to live in separate houses?
Easy. That's what works for their marriage. Not all marriages have to be what your vision of them are.
 
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These two male humpback whales were observed mating in 2022. Photograph: Lyle Krannichfeld and Brandi Romano


Humpback whales have been observed having sex for the first time, with this landmark moment having an interesting twist – the two whales were male. Despite decades of research on humpback whales, sightings of the male’s penis have been rare. Copulation by the species had not been documented by people – until now, when two photographers captured images of a sexual encounter between two whales off the coast of Hawaii. The sighting, confirmed by scientists in a newly published study, occurred in January 2022 in waters west of the island of Maui, where two whales approached and circled a boat before engaging in sexual activity about three to five meters below the vessel. Both of the whales were male, which makes the photos, taken by Lyle Krannichfeld and Brandi Romano, the first evidence of homosexual behavior in humpback whales as well as the first sighting of sex in the species. Homosexual behavior is common in the animal kingdom and has been spotted among dolphins and orca whales, but never previously between humpback whales.
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During the intimate encounter photographed in Hawaii, one of the whales was seen to be holding the other in place with its pectoral fins while penetrating it. . . The penises of male humpback whales are usually concealed in what is known as a “genital slit” to make it more streamlined while swimming. An unsheathed penis has only been witnessed a small number of times in the past, once while a whale was urinating.
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* The last quoted bit included to avoid the expected dumbass trolling angle of "it says we haven't seen them have sex before so wE DoN't KnOw! o_O " *

You know MAGA is going to blame it on "woke". Or Biden Chemtrails. You never know. Bottom line: this is observed across species. But just like the fossil record, we can only ever expect to observe a small fraction of what is or has been.
I've heard rumors that some whales are even "trans".

Not confirmed but I hear there's a film to be made about one with the title "Maybe Dick".
 
You know MAGA is going to blame it on "woke". Or Biden Chemtrails. You never know. Bottom line: this is observed across species. But just like the fossil record, we can only ever expect to observe a small fraction of what is or has been.

I blame Disney, Bud Light, and California.
 
I didn't say that. Sarah certainly still had sex with Abraham. Manoah was still having sex with his wife (Judges 13:2). Hannah was still having sex with her husband Elkanah. Elizabeth was still having sex with Zachariah. I personally knew a couple who could not have children and after they adopted a boy, they ended up having another boy and a girl, and he was a pastor. It would seem GOD wanted this couple to adopt the first child that no one wanted... GOD does bless the union between a husband and a wife when HE desires.
He was also having sex with Hagar. Interesting how he never got punished for adultery.
 
I for one find NOTHING wrong with platonic relationships. A platonic relationship or emotion is loving but not sexual.

While there is the possibility of you being the exception, most of your fellow Christians will take any act that they feel is sexual to be sexual instead of platonic. For example, in many Asian cultures, men will lay their heads on other men's laps, or they will be cuddled up together, or even holding hands, and no one there thinks of it as sexual, because those are also platonic acts in those cultures. But here, you and yours (again noting your possible exception) will almost always immediately jump to the conclusion that any two men doing such are gay. You make the claim, but I really have to wonder whether you really apply the words.
 
The bearly church fathers were not fans of marriage or sex overall. They were of the opinion that everyone should be celibate. Tertullian and Gregory of Nyssa argued that marriage was bondage, and celibacy was freedom (ironically they were both married). Tertullian also argued that widows and widowers remarrying was adultery. Jerome argued that it is good for a man to never touch a woman, and for a woman to never touch a man, implying that even within marriage touching was bad, while St. John Chrysostom argued that celibacy was imitating angels, and that being a virgin is imitating the life of Jesus, that every Christian obviously should do. And Cyprian argued that "go forth and multiply" simply wasn't needed anymore because the Earth was full. The early church considered marriage a hurdle on the way to really prefered status: world celibacy. So if you go with early church rules you should never have sex, even within marriage it's evil.

Marriage did not become a sacrament in the Western church before the Coucil of Verona in 1184. And the whole thing that a priest is necessary for a marriage wasn't codified before the Council of Trent 1563.
Paul was the one who started all of that crap. Other disciples didn't necessarily teach that. But Paul's church was the one that became dominant and evolved into the Catholic Church that spread to most of the world.
 
Personally, I am of the opinion that birth control is dangerous because one is playing with hormones. And I simply cannot believe that such is not without possible health consequences, as with abortion.
Given that birth control covers more methods than hormones, you are indicating a gross ignorance on the topic, OR you are expressing an opinion about a specific aspect while failing to clarify that aspect apart from the others.
 
I've heard rumors that some whales are even "trans".

Not confirmed but I hear there's a film to be made about one with the title "Maybe Dick".
I swear that we need a dad joke humor thread....
 
Given that birth control covers more methods than hormones, you are indicating a gross ignorance on the topic, OR you are expressing an opinion about a specific aspect while failing to clarify that aspect apart from the others.
It's the latter. However, the pill is more prevalent than you might think.
 
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