There is nothing wrong with fascism

[briand515]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

 

[Helix]

 

[AProudLefty]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

 

[Rexedgar]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

I’ve heard this tripe before! You will fight until the baton gets turned on you............:2wave:

 

[TrueScotsman]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

I love all the threads where Right Wingers are going on about how Fascists and Nazis are really Left Wing. When Left Wingers are the first targets of fascist fanatics on their quest to the "unified order." I can't get enough of it really.

 

[NiceGuyEddie]

 

[Mycroft]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

You are on one side of the coin. Antifa is on the other side of the coin.

You want total government control, while Antifa wants anarchy.

I reject the both of you...and if you start beating the people you don't like or destroying property, then you need to be labeled domestic terrorists just like Antifa has been.

 

[Yakshi]

A belief system such as this one is a natural consequence of electing Donald Trump.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

Too much coffee this morning?

If we're going to go down this road, then bring back the monarchy! At least it has some entertainment value with all of the family squabbles.

 

[Lisa]

You are on one side of the coin. Antifa is on the other side of the coin.

You want total government control, while Antifa wants anarchy.

I reject both of you...and if you start beating the people you don't like or destroying property, then you need to be labeled domestic terrorists just like Antifa has been.

Give the two choices I will gladly take anarchy in a society of voluntary association. The Antifa only exists to combat the Alt-right, and as soon as the neo-nazis and other stop being a threat the Antifa will no longer exist. Many people confuse the Antifa with the Black bloc anarchists, that are completely different and have different goals. The Black-bloc exists to attack sources of power and wealth, as the first step to their political goals.

What are black bloc anarchists? - Big Think

 

[JackA]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

If you are not a troll or utterly clueless you could explain how our national tradition of a free and open society that you love squares with the ideals of fascism, but that is not explainable so you are necessarily either a troll or utterly clueless.

 

[Mycroft]

Give the two choices I will gladly take anarchy in a society of voluntary association. The Antifa only exists to combat the Alt-right, and as soon as the neo-nazis and other stop being a threat the Antifa will no longer exist.

~snipped...because I'm not "many people"~[/url]

Well, you are certainly free to support anarchy, but when you start using violence against those you disagree with...as Antifa does...you are violating the law and, until you manage to make anarchy the law of the land, you should suffer the lawful consequences of your violent actions.

 

[Rexedgar]

Well, you are certainly free to support anarchy, but when you start using violence against those you disagree with...as Antifa does...you are violating the law and, until you manage to make anarchy the law of the land, you should suffer the lawful consequences of your violent actions.

You need to refresh your understanding of “anarchy!”

 

[ecofarm]

As long as I'm in charge, of everything, I don't really have a problem with fascism.

 

[Mycroft]

You need to refresh your understanding of “anarchy!”

I understand anarchy.

 

[eohrnberger]

You are on one side of the coin. Antifa is on the other side of the coin.

You want total government control, while Antifa wants anarchy.

I reject the both of you...and if you start beating the people you don't like or destroying property, then you need to be labeled domestic terrorists just like Antifa has been.

Agreed. There's no place for fascism, as practiced by anyone including AntiFa, Proud Boys, or anyone else, here in the US. The world has fought a Word War against fascism, and we don't need to repeat that, unless there's no other way.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

All the wingnuts claim Obama was a dictator. You must have loved him!

 

[Lisa]

Well, you are certainly free to support anarchy, but when you start using violence against those you disagree with...as Antifa does...you are violating the law and, until you manage to make anarchy the law of the land, you should suffer the lawful consequences of your violent actions.

The Antifa are not anarchists. The Black Boc are anarchists but the two groups are not the same or share similar goals. The Antifa a group of people who use the same tactics of fascism against the fascists. You cannot stop fascism by being nice so they are instead fighting fire with fire.

 

[eohrnberger]

Give the two choices I will gladly take anarchy in a society of voluntary association. The Antifa only exists to combat the Alt-right, and as soon as the neo-nazis and other stop being a threat the Antifa will no longer exist. Many people confuse the Antifa with the Black bloc anarchists, that are completely different and have different goals. The Black-bloc exists to attack sources of power and wealth, as the first step to their political goals.

What are black bloc anarchists? - Big Think

"The Antifa only exists to combat the Alt-right"

Alt-right as defined by Antifa = anyone that disagrees with them and their leftist political objectives.

Why does a journalist just doing his job, such as Andy Ngo deserve to be beaten and sent to the hospital with a brain injury?
Is Andy Ngo from the alt-right? Or just disagreeing with Antifa?

No, Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization and deserves to be federally labeled as such, and yet, there are many in the leftist media which give them a pass, minimize and obscure what they really are.

Its time that the political left calls out and condemns Antifa's fascism.

Biden condemns Antifa assault on journalist Andy Ngo - New York Post
[url]https://nypost.com/.../biden-condemns-violent-antifa-assault-on-conservative-journalis...[/URL]
1 hour ago - Former Vice President Joe Biden spoke out against the violent assault on journalist Andy Ngo. The Democratic presidential candidate “believes violence directed at anyone because of their political opinions is never acceptable, regardless of what those beliefs might be,” a ...
​

Good on Biden. Will others of the Democrat party and the leftist media have the courage to follow his lead?

 

[AlbqOwl]

You are on one side of the coin. Antifa is on the other side of the coin.

You want total government control, while Antifa wants anarchy.

I reject the both of you...and if you start beating the people you don't like or destroying property, then you need to be labeled domestic terrorists just like Antifa has been.

I have to disagree on one point. Anarchism is the extreme of the far right.

Antifa is a radical example of extreme leftism, i.e. identifying enemies by their ideology as a justification for committing violence, arson, vandalism, assault, battery, terrorism against anybody on the right as the enemy and seeking to silence, hurt, punish, destroy anybody who doesn't agree with them.

In other words they are fascists who pretend to be the enemies of the fascism that they embrace. Which not only makes them violent enemies of the people as a whole, but really REALLY ignorant and stupid.

 

[Mycroft]

The Antifa are not anarchists. The Black Boc are anarchists but the two groups are not the same or share similar goals. The Antifa a group of people who use the same tactics of fascism against the fascists. You cannot stop fascism by being nice so they are instead fighting fire with fire.

As long as Antifa continues to take violence in hand...continue to disregard the rule of law...they are functionally anarchists, no matter what rhetoric they use to justify their actions.

Hell...you talk about "stop fascism". ANYONE that Antifa doesn't like at any moment...they label a "fascist". It's just an excuse to go out and beat people. Heck, they are even known to beat their own supporters and justify it by calling their own people "fascists".

They are nothing more than a mob and they operate by mob rule. That is anarchy.

 

[TrueScotsman]

"The Antifa only exists to combat the Alt-right"

Alt-right as defined by Antifa = anyone that disagrees with them and their leftist political objectives.

Why does a journalist just doing his job, such as Andy Ngo deserve to be beaten and sent to the hospital with a brain injury?
Is Andy Ngo from the alt-right? Or just disagreeing with Antifa?

No, Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization and deserves to be federally labeled as such, and yet, there are many in the leftist media which give them a pass, minimize and obscure what they really are.

Its time that the political left calls out and condemns Antifa's fascism.

Biden condemns Antifa assault on journalist Andy Ngo - New York Post
[url]https://nypost.com/.../biden-condemns-violent-antifa-assault-on-conservative-journalis...[/URL]
1 hour ago - Former Vice President Joe Biden spoke out against the violent assault on journalist Andy Ngo. The Democratic presidential candidate “believes violence directed at anyone because of their political opinions is never acceptable, regardless of what those beliefs might be,” a ...
​

Good on Biden. Will others of the Democrat party and the leftist media have the courage to follow his lead?

Ngo is a Sales Photographer, he does this on the side and merely published it on Twitter. That makes almost everyone there a Journalist.

Ngo is basically Alt-Right, and besides that he doxxed several members of Antifa in the past and has tried to get beat up by them in the past. He was absolutely looking for this one, and for the rest of us we get further proof that Antifa believes in using violence which we already knew.

I don't like political violence, but your side is UTTERLY ignoring far right extremism who are violent themselves and are countered by Antifa at these rallies.

 

[AProudLefty]

Anarchy just means absence of government.

 

[j brown's body]

Fascism is order, fascism is effective, fascism is power. If executed properly fascism is the ideal form of government. I'm proudly a fascist because I love order, tradition, God, our Nation, and our people. Fascism means a UNIFIED ordered state with a strong leader and that's exactly what we need. Leftists cannot be tolerated, they are tearing down our nation, they need to either get in line or we'll force them in line. Fascism is demonized because they know it's a huge threat to Marxism and they have to demonize it. Cops need to get the batons out and beat the ANTIFA thugs in line, beat them into submission until they bleed on the streets. The fact that these people are even allowed to continue to live is a shame on our country. I am a proud fascist and I will fight for fascism.

There is one severe shortcoming when it comes to fascism. It doesn't last. North Korea is probably your best bet.

 

[Mycroft]

I have to disagree on one point. Anarchism is the extreme of the far right.

I don't see how you can say that. Anarchy is the rejection of law as enacted by government. That would indicate that there is no "right" or "left" in anarchy. Put another way...anarchy can be supported by extremists from either the right or the left, as long as those extremists reject government.

Antifa is a radical example of extreme leftism, i.e. identifying enemies by their ideology as a justification for committing violence, arson, vandalism, assault, battery, terrorism against anybody on the right as the enemy and seeking to silence, hurt, punish, destroy anybody who doesn't agree with them.

In other words they are fascists who pretend to be the enemies of the fascism that they embrace. Which not only makes them violent enemies of the people as a whole, but really REALLY ignorant and stupid.

I agree with what you say here about Antifa, except I've never heard of them supporting anything that has to do with government, be it fascism, democracy or anything else. That indicates they are violent anarchists.