not interested enough. If you had a point to make you make it better than cleaning some things you saw in a movie cleaning some things you saw in a movie
I may have lost track with the original point here, but I don’t think there was anything more in my comment other than noting how fictional popular culture reflects real popular beliefs or stereotypes. Returning to Blazing Saddles for another example, as they are about to make love for the first time, (before the Havana comment) the Madeline Kahn character wonders if it’s true that Black people like the Cleavon Little character, are “gifted.” “Oh it’s twoo, it’s twoo,” she says after we hear his zipper come down.
You're talking about movies I'm not really interested in your interpretation of how they reflect reality.
Of course not. But TV and films, especially ones that are intended to be satirical, often make references to popular culture. But let’s get back to the original point, that pre-Castro Cuba had a bit of the naughty reputation that Tijuana had or still has. The stereotype was that sailors from San Diego went to Tijuana and high rollers from the US to Cuba.
I'm not interested in your interpretation of films.
I scrolled back and found that a frequent poster obsessed with Cuba as the only tyranny in the world talked as if Cuban sex tourism began with Castro. I tried to correct the record to show that it preceded Fidel. That’s how we got here — and let’s leave it at that.
You're talking about movies you can just stop what do you need me to leave things alone I'm just repeating that you've talked about movies and that movie's aren't real life.
Ok, one more try: do you deny that at times movies, though not real life, can and do reflect popular notions — right or wrong — about countries, regions of the world or of the US? That’s my only point. Why do you think the line, “I am not from Havana” appeared in the film?
That's beyond the scope of this discussion. Your reasoning for the things you said is because you saw it on a movie once. I watched the Meg in this giant shark bit into a ship I guess that's real.
So what I watched the movie about the giant sharks that could bite to the ship that's because there's actually sharks like that?
Ok, let’s make this simple. This is what I believe: 1- Rightly or wrongly, Cuba was considered by many as a sexual playground for tourists. 2- That stereotype was reflected in popular culture, with my examples offered “Blazing Saddles” and “Godfather II.” That’s it. You can choose to believe that Cleavon Little’s line about Havana had nothing to it. I choose to believe differently. This discussion started with someone suggesting that sex tourism started with Castro in Cuba. I tried to counter that, saying it preceded Fidel. You can choose not to believe that.
Fair enough.
In a speech to the Cuban National Assembly in 1992 Fidel Castro said: “There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily, and without any need for it. We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy…there is truly no prostitution healthier that Cuba’s…. “Cuban women become jineteras (prostitutes) because they like sex”. In 1993 Castro remarked that “thanks to socialism Cuban girls must make the cleanest and best-educated prostitutes in the world.” Fidel Castro is the main person responsible for the increased of prostitution, since in order to survive women need to trade in their bodies. It shows the outside world that his revolution has failed.
Like Batista ****ing knew that Cuba was like the sexual tourism capital of south america.
I assume he was at least somewhat aware, but of course that wasn't my point.
The ECPAT, a group of international organizations that works directly with UNICEF to end child prostitution and pornography, says, "In Cuba, the link between tourism and prostitution is perhaps more direct than in any other country that hosts sex tourists."
As i have posted before, Cuba was known for sexual tourism long before Castro. Mentioned in our culture, Blazing Saddles and Godfather II.
The situation that the Cuban transgender woman live is very sad, there are many more, like her. It is all the regime faults. She needs to do her best to leave as soon as possible. There is no hope for anyone, everyone wants to leave.
Brenda Díaz, which participated in the peaceful demonstration on July 11, 2021, was arrested and sentenced to 14 years of imprisonment, accused of public disorder and contempt. According to the Supreme Court the sentence was “legal, just and rational” , and sent her to an Orwellian 1984 prison After closed to 4 years in prison, she was released January 18, 2025 and reunited with her mother.Prison ‘Devastated Me’ says Brenda Díaz, a Cuban Trans Woman Released from Prison – Translating Cuba
Díaz is aware that her case has made her a symbol. / EFE
EFE (via 14ymedio), Güira de Melena (Artemisa), 26 January 2025 — When she learned that she would be released, Brenda Díaz, a Cuban trans woman sentenced to more than 14 years in prison after participating in the anti-government demonstrations on 11 July 2021 (11J), she could not pick up the phone to call her mother. Díaz, one of the beneficiaries of the release process recently announced by the Cuban government, was in “shock” when the prison management gave her the news. She had spent almost four of her 30 years in a men’s module and suffered all kinds of “physical and verbal abuse,” she claims in an interview with EFE.
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Among those held on the UMAP concentration camps were Cardinal Jaime Ortega and songwriter-singer Pablo Milanés. The UMAP camps were considered an “ exploitation equal to slavery”. Commander Ernesto Casillas, head of the UMAP in Camaguey, said that the number of men in the UMAP ascended to 22,000. The informed Demystifying the UMAP, published by the Delaware Review of Latin American Studies, Vol. 14, No. 2, diciembre 31 de 2013, said that 500 men ended in psychiatric rooms, 70 died for torture and 180 committed suicides.