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There are no more troops to send to Iraq.

Gill said:
As soon as I saw that the list of so-called 'experts' included Madeline Albright and Sandy Burgler, I laughed so hard I almost lost it.

The only these two are good for is passing the buck.


I loved it when that scum bag Sandy Berger got caught sticking secret documents down his pants............What a dork.......He should have went to prison for that.......
 
Donkey1499 said:
I would volunteer at this moment, but I need to lose weight first. :rofl The air force guy said I need to be at at least 212 lbs in able to join. But my Doc said I can get as low as 192lbs. So between 190 and 210 is my goal. Then I might join either the Army or the Air Force.

Get your list, you don't scare me!

I will take your word that you are signing up. Thank you!!
 
Navy Pride said:
I would not lose any sleep over him putting you on ignore.........I think he has half the people in DP on ignore........

Lose sleep? :rofl Being put on ignore by him & APS is cause for celebration! :2party: :rofl
 
Navy Pride said:
Pretty soon he won't have anyone to debate with except people that think like him....

I guess he will just keep posting stupid articles..........

Taking your ball and going home is all that can be done when you can't provide the proof.
 
ptsdkid said:
***Hey Donkey, I would volunteer today if they would let me. Unfortunately, I am too old as I already served in the Vietnam war while Clinton was busy writing his chicken out letter to get him protected from the draft.

You really need to do something about that 'Donkey' handle. Every time I see it I think I'm dealing with a lib. May I suggest that with your large size that you change the handle to something more appropriate like...'elephantitis'.

HA!

You're an old man... LOL j/k

Actually, I'll keep my callsign on here. I'm called donkey for another reason besides me being stubborn, an @$$, and large. 'elephantitis' is disgusting...
 
BWG said:
Not trying to scare anyone. Not my style.

I have a feeling that you have already seen that list, but prefer to ignore it, so its posting would be a futile educational attempt.

Good luck with your weight loss program. There's nothing wrong with serving in the military. Not so sure about cheerleaders...LOL

No, see, the thing is I don't care who didn't serve. Ok? Clinton's a *****, as is Cheney. But I don't care. Their cowardice will be weighed after their deaths. Cowards do die a 1,000 deaths, right?

What the hell about cheerleaders? Dem Cowboy Cheerleaders would help any man pitch a tent, if you know what I mean? (:cool: )

I'm following a Coast Guard like excercise program; I learned about it from my buddy's Helmsman manual he received in Cape May, NJ boot camp.
 
I didn't read any previous posts but can amply say: JUST GO TO YOUR NEAREST RECRUITER. And for those who have an excuse not to enlist (handicapped, old, obese, weak, afraid) start giving to the Troopies, posting on this or that Forum isn't doing nothing--I can tell you that personally. Cancel your ISP, your Cable all of your frivilous trivial expenditures and give it troops or/and families; plenty of organizations and individual soldiers you can meet online. And no, you posting and waving a flag and having a Support or Troops magnet stickers isn't what a soldiers wants--he wants sustenance not a trivial* contribution when you want and what you want to give.

*showing up at a MLB game wearing a I support GW shirt, hoping to be seen on tv--thinking its going to make a diff.
In fact we have some present soldiers on this DP forum? What's preventing you from making a great contribution for them? They don't want it? I can find you soldiers who will take it and do need it--give me a pm and remember making the Sacrifice doesn't mean you living in complete comfort like a War isn't going on--if you truly believe the Muslim Jihadists must be taken out--start living and having the mentality of the american WW2 populace. Saving money to give = no fast food, no cable, drink water not pop-coffee, no WWW, no road trips, an extra job, no bar or parties that expend money, entertainment very low costing, etc. Prove to me you truly believe in this War, and then I will take those who "support it" seriously because your lukewarmenss is actually hurting the troops. I'm for the troops--not for fake lip service keyboard popping flakes.
 
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Navy Seal Patriot said:
I didn't read any previous posts but can amply say: JUST GO TO YOUR NEAREST RECRUITER. And for those who have an excuse not to enlist (handicapped, old, obese, weak, afraid) start giving to the Troopies, posting on this or that Forum isn't doing nothing--I can tell you that personally. Cancel your ISP, your Cable all of your frivilous trivial expenditures and give it troops or/and families; plenty of organizations and individual soldiers you can meet online. And no, you posting and waving a flag and having a Support or Troops magnet stickers isn't what a soldiers wants--he wants sustenance not a trivial* contribution when you want and what you want to give.

*showing up at a MLB game wearing a I support GW shirt, hoping to be seen on tv--thinking its going to make a diff.
In fact we have some present soldiers on this DP forum? What's preventing you from making a great contribution for them? They don't want it? I can find you soldiers who will take it and do need it--give me a pm and remember making the Sacrifice doesn't mean you living in complete comfort like a War isn't going on--if you truly believe the Muslim Jihadists must be taken out--start living and having the mentality of the american WW2 populace. Saving money to give = no fast food, no cable, drink water not pop-coffee, no WWW, no road trips, an extra job, no bar or parties that expend money, entertainment very low costing, etc. Prove to me you truly believe in this War, and then I will take those who "support it" seriously because your lukewarmenss is actually hurting the troops. I'm for the troops--not for fake lip service keyboard popping flakes.

Amen. It is one thing to wear an "I support the troops" t-shirt that everyone can see. It is quite another to support the troops in deed. Just like religion, faith without works is dead.

For those who wish to support the troops, here is a way you can truly help. Give a $25.00 donation to the USO, and they will send a care package to a service member. The website for the USO Cares program is here.
 
danarhea said:
Amen. It is one thing to wear an "I support the troops" t-shirt that everyone can see. It is quite another to support the troops in deed. Just like religion, faith without works is dead.

For those who wish to support the troops, here is a way you can truly help. Give a $25.00 donation to the USO, and they will send a care package to a service member. The website for the USO Cares program is here.

My cousins husband (and his Marine buddies) get stuff from my family all the time. In fact, our last package consisted of q-tips, cookies, tissues, hard candies, soap, sun screen, and some other stuff they asked for. We sent enough for his squad. If only more Americans would do that. Rush Limbaugh even has an "Adopt a Soldier Program" run thru his website. www.rushlimbaugh.com
 
If only more Americans would do that. Rush Limbaugh even has an "Adopt a Soldier Program" run thru his website. www.rushlimbaugh.com

That's just it, why aren't more Americans doing this? If one truly believes that Jihadists are trying to acquire and or want to to Nuke-WMD a American city then your total focus should be on this war effort & not just living a comfortable lifestyle with plenty of spending money after your raw basic living expenses. That's why I cannot take seriously (the majority) those who say they're for the War--they give nothing and have every excuse and lame reason under the sun. Put your money where your mouth is or sign on the line.
 
Navy Seal Patriot said:
That's just it, why aren't more Americans doing this? If one truly believes that Jihadists are trying to acquire and or want to to Nuke-WMD a American city then your total focus should be on this war effort & not just living a comfortable lifestyle with plenty of spending money after your raw basic living expenses. That's why I cannot take seriously (the majority) those who say they're for the War--they give nothing and have every excuse and lame reason under the sun. Put your money where your mouth is or sign on the line.

When "5 deferments" Cheney was asked why he didnt serve, he replied "I had higher priorities". Thats the way it is with the chickenhawks. I would be a lot easier on them if they werent so eager to prosecute wars to the last drop of other peoples' blood.
 
aps said:
One of the people who wrote into the NYT about Bush's speech on Monday had this to say (and I agree wholeheartedly):

When Bush was asked what sacrifices our country has made as a result of the war in Iraq, Bush said, "Taxes." I was dumbfounded.

I'm sure he meant the higher taxes *future* taxpayers will have to pay after his pass the buck administration is gone, to pay for the huge debt that he has racked up.
 
danarhea said:
Thats right, folks. There is an Army briefing now making the rounds that 2/3 of our military forces are in a state of unreadiness, and cannot be deployed. Not only that, but the Army is also beginning to cannibalize some of its existing equipment stocks, due to the wear and tear on existing equipment. Meanwhile, our undermanned military is being cut to ribbons in Iraq.

While the Republicans are always critisizing the Democrats, claiming that our military would go to hell in a handbasket under them, just take a look at what's happening today and ask yourself "Isnt that what the Republicans are doing now"? One thing for certain, the GOP doesnt need new blood. It needs its new blood kicked to the curb, and its old blood brought back in.

Article is here.

Jeez I'd hope this article has no merit.

The Govt is spending 66% more, that is $200 billion more each year on defense. And that does not include the costs of the wars.

Despite this massive increase in spending, troop levels have not increased one man, that I can tell.

Where the hell is all the money going? I could make a good guess.
 
Iriemon said:
Jeez I'd hope this article has no merit.

The Govt is spending 66% more, that is $200 billion more each year on defense. And that does not include the costs of the wars.

Despite this massive increase in spending, troop levels have not increased one man, that I can tell.

Where the hell is all the money going? I could make a good guess.

Politicians' pockets is one place. I ain't seen a poor politician yet!
 
Donkey1499 said:
Are you?... Willing to give your life for your country? Or would you like being a muslim?

I already served in the U.S. Army 2001-2005.
Two times in Iraq....and a Paratrooper.

So yeah, I'd say I was willing to give my life for my country.

But, I fought for our damned freedoms for a reason.
This "epic" war against Radical Islam, in my opinion, does not pose the threat that people make it out to be. Its a threat, but its not like its going to destroy America, unless America helps it destroy us (going broke on fighting it, runing what America has stood for (torture), etc. )
 
Caine said:
I already served in the U.S. Army 2001-2005.
Two times in Iraq....and a Paratrooper.

So yeah, I'd say I was willing to give my life for my country.

But, I fought for our damned freedoms for a reason.
This "epic" war against Radical Islam, in my opinion, does not pose the threat that people make it out to be. Its a threat, but its not like its going to destroy America, unless America helps it destroy us (going broke on fighting it, runing what America has stood for (torture), etc. )

I apologize for my brief moment of ignorance. I had no clue that you already served.

Not like leftist appeasement and UN sanctions are gonna stop it.
 
Donkey1499 said:
Not like leftist appeasement and UN sanctions are gonna stop it.
No.... but I don't think our solitary war against a religion of over 1.3 billion people is going to do anything but destroy us.

The common Muslims have to find a way to supress the extremists.

I used to think differently, but I believe now that what we have done in Iraq is good.... somewhat.
What we don't need to do is continue to increase troop levels
The goal was to, "As they stand up, we will stand down" right? Then if we are focusing our efforts on recruiting/training more troops... why should we have to send more? Are they "standing down" instead? If so, what does that speak of the resolve of the Iraqi people when it comes to being a free nation? As more responsibility is handed over to Iraq, more troops should leave. While at the same time, focus diplomatic efforts on keeping Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

But, other than that, for the most part, Islam has to take care of itself. We can't try to FORCE them to behave, it will only increase the fundamenalist ranks and piss them off more.
 
God help us if Iran decides to nuke their neighbor, this country is obviously too lazy, to ungrateful, too preoccupied with their own selfish wants, to ever fight another world war!:(
 
Deegan said:
God help us if Iran decides to nuke their neighbor, this country is obviously too lazy, to ungrateful, too preoccupied with their own selfish wants, to ever fight another world war!:(

Freakin' liberals don't want to start another world war! They never wanna have any fun. Spoilsports.
 
Iriemon said:
Freakin' liberals don't want to start another world war! They never wanna have any fun. Spoilsports.

They just havent read the book "War, Killing, and Mayhem, for Fun and Profit", sponsored by Raytheon. I'm sure they will get into the spirit of things, lest they be sent off for "reeducation".

It may soon come to that if we continue with our present leadership.
 
Iriemon said:
Freakin' liberals don't want to start another world war! They never wanna have any fun. Spoilsports.

Liberals would rather try and negotiate with radical islamic terrorists who want to kill them...........

Go figure.........
 
danarhea said:
our undermanned military is being cut to ribbons in Iraq.

From time to time, we all write something that in hindsight appears pretty silly. danarhea, you just did so..."cut to ribbons" suggest a military force that is pretty much at the mercy of, and to the point of being annihilated by its enemy. Our forces in Iraq are hardly in that situation. Quite a silly and uninformed exagerration.
 
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