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Wrong. When I was a park ranger I sat in on the spotted owl hearings.
The reason for the build up in the forests was COMMON forest company practice at the time to preserve the forests and not let the regular normal wildfires run thru them and take out the flammable understory.
Clear cuts were never enough to reduce fire danger, they didnt reduce the understory but they almost immediately created a new one with no trees when the pioneer species started growing back in.
Just took a gander at your sources. Interesting but here's the hard part. These people just need to move because they are in harms way, and no matter what they do, a significant amount of these fires are created by infrastructure supporting THEM, like electric lines. Aside from which, these people are not the only victims. It's the wildlife, it's the air, it's livestock, it's every living thing. We talk about "firewise" but it's nothing more than pie in the sky excuses to give people a false sense of security. With enough heat, concrete will disintegrate; metal roofs will heat up to the point of transferred combustion; the crap IN their houses is more often than not toxic; we all know that plastic is to a degree is petroleum based. These are all things we know. And aside from which, what right do these people have to put firefighters and the flora and fauna at risk because of them?? Thanks!!- I have never said people should stay in place. There are reasons they need to leave the area.
- Modify the fuels in and around the structures. (especially the ground fuels)
Take a look at Paradise. It had high density homes with vegetation up to the structure..
- https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/Fire-causes-and-risks/Wildfire/Firewise-USA
I suggest you study up on how homes ignite from forest fires.
https://wildfiretoday.com/2020/09/2...extreme-wildfires-is-a-home-ignition-problem/
Take a look at this article
https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/02/12/prevent-house-burning-wildfire/?hilite='jack','cohen'
Then stop replying if you don't care. I've already acknowledged the issue with the post and apologized. It's too bad you're such an opportunist, taking full advantage to be mean-spirited albeit absolutely void of relevant information or even a relevant opinion. Good for you. Thanks!!Uh huh...you've gone off the rails here.
At this point, 'I dont care' about your opinion on this, which is pretty uninformed and so not particularly credible.
We will agree to disagree regarding wildfires and homes.Just took a gander at your sources. Interesting but here's the hard part. These people just need to move because they are in harms way, and no matter what they do, a significant amount of these fires are created by infrastructure supporting THEM, like electric lines. Aside from which, these people are not the only victims. It's the wildlife, it's the air, it's livestock, it's every living thing. We talk about "firewise" but it's nothing more than pie in the sky excuses to give people a false sense of security. With enough heat, concrete will disintegrate; metal roofs will heat up to the point of transferred combustion; the crap IN their houses is more often than not toxic; we all know that plastic is to a degree is petroleum based. These are all things we know. And aside from which, what right do these people have to put firefighters and the flora and fauna at risk because of them?? Thanks!!
Were you too stupid to research the spotted owl measures you posted in your response? If you werent that stupid, then you'd know the answer to your question. Which is it?When was that? 1940?
Maybe someday, you'll notice that the posts are in chronological order and people come to one and comment on it...and then come to another and then comment on it. If your apology comes later...um, I dont have a time machineThen stop replying if you don't care. I've already acknowledged the issue with the post and apologized. It's too bad you're such an opportunist, taking full advantage to be mean-spirited albeit absolutely void of relevant information or even a relevant opinion. Good for you. Thanks!!
Were you too stupid to research the spotted owl measures you posted in your response? If you werent that stupid, then you'd know the answer to your question. Which is it?
Then the other option is you were too stupid to connect the dots they clearly identified...spotted owl hearings in the 40s?I didn't post anything about no spotted owls.
Just took a gander at your sources. Interesting but here's the hard part. These people just need to move because they are in harms way, and no matter what they do, a significant amount of these fires are created by infrastructure supporting THEM, like electric lines. Aside from which, these people are not the only victims. It's the wildlife, it's the air, it's livestock, it's every living thing. We talk about "firewise" but it's nothing more than pie in the sky excuses to give people a false sense of security. With enough heat, concrete will disintegrate; metal roofs will heat up to the point of transferred combustion; the crap IN their houses is more often than not toxic; we all know that plastic is to a degree is petroleum based. These are all things we know. And aside from which, what right do these people have to put firefighters and the flora and fauna at risk because of them?? Thanks!!
When I bought my house, one of the things that really sold me was the metal roof.We're not talking about making houses fireproof in a blast furnace. We're talking about them surviving a few burning embers, or the house next door catching on fire.
CA is waiting for the billions of dollars the Federal government needs to pay to start raking their forest floors.
When I bought my house, one of the things that really sold me was the metal roof.
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