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The Ukraine War Is Over – Russia Just Hasn’t Declared Victory Yet

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There are still some holdouts believing that Ukraine has a shot at kicking Russia out but that is not something that is realistic.

They put up a great fight and will be one of the strongest nations militarily post-war in Europe but they are not going to be the same nation geographically that they were.

They simply are not strong enough nor do they have the support to overcome Russia.

One need not pick a side to recognize the realities happening on the ground.

Start with the military situation, because that’s the foundation of everything else. On the ground, Ukraine’s strategic position is deteriorating by the month. Mobilization efforts have stalled. Recruitment has collapsed. The average age of a frontline soldier is now nearing 45. Desertion and draft-dodging are spreading, and Western aid – though still flowing – is increasingly mismatched to Ukraine’s real needs. You can send as many artillery shells and drone kits as you like, but you cannot manufacture trained infantry out of nothing. And that’s what Ukraine is short of: not resolve, not hardware, but men.

Meanwhile, Russia’s army has evolved. It’s no longer the chaotic, overstretched force that stumbled out into Ukraine in February 2022. It has absorbed its losses, adapted to the terrain, and reverted to what it does best: attritional warfare, backed by overwhelming firepower and deep reserves of manpower. Russia doesn’t need to stage flashy counter-offensives or overrun all of Ukraine. It only needs to advance slowly, dig in, and bleed Ukraine white – while maintaining pressure long enough to outlast Western political will. And that’s exactly what it’s doing.

Which brings us to the economic front. There’s a persistent myth in Western capitals that Russia is teetering under the weight of sanctions –that the ruble is crumbling, the oligarchs are restless, and the economy is one shock away from implosion. This is wishful thinking. Sanctions have hurt, yes, but they have also catalyzed a strategic decoupling from the West that was probably inevitable anyway. Russia has reoriented its economy toward Asia. It’s selling oil to India, natural gas to China, and arms to anyone willing to pay in non-Western currencies. The parallel financial system is crude but functional. And the state is compensating for consumer losses with heavy military-industrial spending – spending that, unlike in the West, is tied directly to battlefield outcomes and regime survival.

The IMF projects modest growth for Russia in 2025. Inflation is high, but not catastrophic. Unemployment is low. And industrial output – especially in arms production – is booming. Yes, living standards have declined. But the state has managed the pain selectively, shielding key groups – soldiers, pensioners, the security apparatus – while letting the rest of society absorb the shock. It’s crude economic triage. But it works. And it buys time.

 
Russia's "victory" will be pyrrhic at best. They likely will get the Donbas, but they will also get a highly militarized Ukraine that hates Russia and will almost definitely end up in NATO. Russia supposedly entered the war because of the threat of NATO being on their border, but by the time everything is done, their border with NATO will have increased 5 times.
 
There are still some holdouts believing that Ukraine has a shot at kicking Russia out but that is not something that is realistic.

They put up a great fight and will be one of the strongest nations militarily post-war in Europe but they are not going to be the same nation geographically that they were.

They simply are not strong enough nor do they have the support to overcome Russia.

One need not pick a side to recognize the realities happening on the ground.



Obviously, your understanding of the Russian economy and military strength is not very strong.
 
There are still some holdouts believing that Ukraine has a shot at kicking Russia out but that is not something that is realistic.

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Well, not with Putin loving KING MAGAT as President.

Even President Biden, not a Putin ass kisser, failed to put Putin and Russia in their place and out of Ukraine.

We need a JFK type President to get that job done.
 
They've been saying this for years and Russia still can't take Ukraine.
How embarrassing for Putin.

:rolleyes:

It's not 'Ukraine'.. Ime, it's a coalition of NATO scumbag$/bully boy$ spearheading this proxy war... The/?your Republicrat scumbag$ have already ponied up some $300,000,000,000 in proxy war murder money... I believe you'll find that's about 4 times the yearly military budget of England, another murderous contributor the/?your scumbag proxy war...
 
:rolleyes:

It's not 'Ukraine'.. Ime, it's a coalition of NATO scumbag$/bully boy$ spearheading this proxy war... The/?your Republicrat scumbag$ have already ponied up some $300,000,000,000 in proxy war murder money... I believe you'll find that's about 4 times the yearly military budget of England, another murderous contributor the/?your scumbag proxy war...
Thanks for letting us know that you've no idea what a proxy war is.
 
Ukraine may well end up with lost territory but they didn't start this fight and Putin wanted all of Ukraine not just a chunk of the east.

As a old buddy of mine who was an inveterate brawler used to say - if you pick a fight and don't win, then you've lost.
 
:rolleyes:

It's not 'Ukraine'.. Ime, it's a coalition of NATO scumbag$/bully boy$ spearheading this proxy war... The/?your Republicrat scumbag$ have already ponied up some $300,000,000,000 in proxy war murder money... I believe you'll find that's about 4 times the yearly military budget of England, another murderous contributor the/?your scumbag proxy war...

NATO didn’t invade Ukraine. Russia did. Russia spearheaded the war.
 
Ukraine may well end up with lost territory but they didn't start this fight and Putin wanted all of Ukraine not just a chunk of the east.

As a old buddy of mine who was an inveterate brawler used to say - if you pick a fight and don't win, then you've lost.

:rolleyes:

Putin wanted your NATO scumbag$ out of EUkraine.. get knowledge!
 
:rolleyes: :poop: ^^^

What's your definition, genius! lol!
Proxy war
In political science, a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power.
Ukraine was invaded and is defending itself. By the very definition of the term, they cannot be a proxy of NATO.

Are you so incurious that you couldn't simply look it up for yourself?

Oh, just in case...

incurious /ĭn-kyoo͝r′ē-əs/

adjective​

  1. Lacking intellectual inquisitiveness or natural curiosity; uninterested.
  2. Not curious or inquisitive; without care for or interest in; inattentive; careless; negligent; heedless.
 
They've been saying this for years and Russia still can't take Ukraine.
How embarrassing for Putin.
He’s taken more than enough of it to humiliate the West, which has sent multiple waves of “invincible” equipment to be wrecked by the Russians.
 
He’s taken more than enough of it to humiliate the West, which has sent multiple waves of “invincible” equipment to be wrecked by the Russians.

The gullibilty of so many Republicrats who still swallow the "Poor Widdle EUkraine" vs. 'Big Bad Russia' :rolleyes: David vs. Goliath, when 'poor widdle EUkraine' is a proxy for U$ [and NATO] warmonger$ who've provoked, GREATLY financed, provided key kill chain support, etc., for yet another murderous conflict..

I pray that Republicrats wake up and figure out that their own stinking house is in need of monumental repairs and that they should fix the stinking hou$e here before they bully foreigners into fixing their houses the way Republicrats :poop: define 'fix'. ugh..
 
The gullibilty of so many Republicrats who still swallow the "Poor Widdle EUkraine" vs. 'Big Bad Russia' :rolleyes: David vs. Goliath, when 'poor widdle EUkraine' is a proxy for U$ [and NATO] warmonger$ who've provoked, GREATLY financed, provided key kill chain support, etc., for yet another murderous conflict..

I pray that Republicrats wake up and figure out that their own stinking house is in need of monumental repairs and that they should fix the stinking hou$e here before they bully foreigners into fixing their houses the way Republicrats :poop: define 'fix'. ugh..

Almost as gullible as people who think Ukraine possibly joining NATO was an existential threat to Russia but the Baltic states actually being in NATO for 20 years wasn’t.
 
He’s taken more than enough of it to humiliate the West, which has sent multiple waves of “invincible” equipment to be wrecked by the Russians.

Ime some people who bitch about 'pollution' [I'm one] are the biggest cheerleaders for war/militarism/etc. which is a HUGE contributor...
 
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They put up a great fight and will be one of the strongest nations militarily post-war in Europe but they are not going to be the same nation geographically that they were.

You forgot to say that Russia launched an illegal invasion, committed war crimes, and the world should unite to defend Ukraine - and especially the US who specifically promised to protect Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons it had. Of course you might not support things like the right of people not to be invaded and killed.
 
He’s taken more than enough of it to humiliate the West, which has sent multiple waves of “invincible” equipment to be wrecked by the Russians.
Russia has been a lot more embarrassed than the West, but embarrassment isn't the important issue. That's petty name calling.
 
Russia has been a lot more embarrassed than the West, but embarrassment isn't the important issue. That's petty name calling.
The West has been claiming Ukraine is on the verge of victory for over two years now. The facts on the ground strongly show otherwise.
 
Almost as gullible as people who think Ukraine possibly joining NATO was an existential threat to Russia but the Baltic states actually being in NATO for 20 years wasn’t.

:rolleyes::poop:^^^

I believe you'll find the Russians have been consistently adamant about Ukraine and Georgia...What YOU think 'should be important to Russia' is worthless...
 
:rolleyes::poop:^^^

I believe you'll find the Russians have been consistently adamant about Ukraine and Georgia...What you think about what should be important to Russia is worthless...

Why would Ukraine or Georgia being in NATO be an existential threat to Russia, but not Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or Finland?

Why hasn’t Russia invaded them? Why didn’t they invade Finland to prevent them from joining NATO?
 
Why would Ukraine or Georgia being in NATO be an existential threat to Russia, but not Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or Finland?

I don't know. What do YOU think, genius? LOL!!!
 
Why would Ukraine or Georgia being in NATO be an existential threat to Russia, but not Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, or Finland?

Why hasn’t Russia invaded them? Why didn’t they invade Finland to prevent them from joining NATO?

:::crickets:::
 
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