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The truth of Global Warming

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then why do the AGW alarmists refuse to change even though new facts show the globe isn't warming nearly as drastically as they first predicted?

Perhaps because the AGW "alarmists", like the ones trying to refute AGW, aren't scientists.
 
True but are they record breaking like mine. You did not say how that fits into the IPCC's predictions

It doesn't, because the IPCC does not predict temperature on a particular day at a particular location. Wrong data type.

I mean, you wouldn't ask a dermatologist for predictions on lung cancer progression, would you?
 
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It doesn't, because the IPCC does not predict temperature on a particular day at a particular location. Wrong data type.

I mean, you wouldn't ask a dermatologist for predictions on lung cancer progression, would you?

So these extremes show the IPCC predictions are wrong again
 
Nice for 2009 but this is not 2009

So?

2010 is one of the hottest years on record, globally speaking, if not the hottest. (remains to be seen, December data is obviously not complete yet)

The way to track climate is global averages over a large timeframe. Decades, not months.
 
So start a thread on one of those things. Or all of them. Chemical dispersants don't cause global warming. This thread is about global warming.

It really doesn't matter if there is GW or not. No country will stop burning coal to generate power, six billion tons, world-wide, burned every year.

A climate scientist told James Fallows of the Atlantic, stabilizing CD to a safe level would require the world to reduce emissions to Kenyas level, 96 percent reduction in the US alone.

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So?

2010 is one of the hottest years on record, globally speaking, if not the hottest. (remains to be seen, December data is obviously not complete yet)

The way to track climate is global averages over a large timeframe. Decades, not months.

Its not even over and already claiming it? That is showing how you use science. Shows how not credible you and the IPCC are. You still will not say how record cold and snow fall in the desert was predicted by the IPCC. You see the IPCC makes general predictions and then tries to show how extremes fit in their generalization. So scientific!!!
 

January-November of 2010 is the hottest January-November on record. Didn't you read the link?

Wait, no, stupid question. Of course you didn't.
 
January-November of 2010 is the hottest January-November on record. Didn't you read the link?

Wait, no, stupid question. Of course you didn't.


What link? the only one I seen was about 2009
 
What link? the only one I seen was about 2009

The other one. The NOAA link. You quoted the post, I assumed you'd read it.
 
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How long before you change your argument again?

Not me mine is the same. I notice no comment on the fact that temp readings have to be adjusted to show warming. More manipulation of data to make it appear we are warming
 
Not me mine is the same. I notice no comment on the fact that temp readings have to be adjusted to show warming. More manipulation of data to make it appear we are warming

So we're back to this again?
You say the data was manipulated.
I say it wasn't.
You post links to mistakes being found and corrected.
I point out that being wrong and lying aren't the same thing.
You fail to understand this.
Repeat.

Save us some time.
 

So you refuse to admit it is manipulation just mistakes
From my link

GISS US temperature data is based on the USHCN2 historical network, which adjusts recent thermometer readings upwards by a substantial amount before releasing the data to the public. The before/after blink comparator above shows that before adjustments, most of the US has seen cooling or neutral (blue) nighttime temperatures since 1895. (Some global warming eh?) But after adjustments, more than two thirds of the US shows warming (red) nighttime temperatures.
 

Homogenization adjustments are done to remove bias, not add it.
The USHCN Version 2 Serial Monthly Dataset
 
Homogenization adjustments are done to remove bias, not add it.
The USHCN Version 2 Serial Monthly Dataset

By changing the numbers they inflate the numbers to get the result they want . They manipulate the numbers instead of just using the real numbers. You can try and BS this but they are manipulating the numbers to give a false impression of warming. This article shows the warming is fake.
 

I'm not sure there's a point in talking about this with you. You aren't going to understand how the methodology works. The unadjusted data is wrong because there are a lot of errors that get introduced over time. Homogenization fixes those errors.

Besides, satellite data matches the instrumental record pretty well. Or maybe you think the same kind of adjustments are made to satellite data? :lamo As if there's a thermometer on the satellite? :lamo

Oh, and all those changes in nature we're seeing? Glaciers melting faster, crop optimal zones shifting towards the poles, bird migration patterns, all behaving as if the planet is getting warmer. The birds are in on the lie!!! :lamo
 
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No then you are saying the equipment is faulty. The temps have to be changed to get the result they want they are manipulating data. Notice they make cooling warming and every year is hotter. This is just a scam and they will not use raw data because it does not give the right result. More scams and data manipulation to forward an agenda
 
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