Melchior
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Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
he 14th Amendment created a new class of citizenship, the United States citizen. This citizenship applies only to 'persons subject to the jurisdiction' of the federal government. All jurisdiction implies superiority of power. A 'person' is always an artificial corporate entity with it's name spelled in all caps.
YOU are "presumed" to be a U.S. citizen, unless and until you can prove otherwise.
A Sovereign/Citizen of the United States of America (American Citizen), lives in one of the 50 sovereign states, and has inalienable rights secured by state and national constitutions.
The artificial person, U.S. citizen, is a legal fiction that has been created by the federal government, via the social security application, and is a corporate employee of the United States by virtue of being a U.S. citizen. He is subject to the jurisdiction of the federal government and of the state government and subject to the corporate income tax.
The U.S. citizen is created property, created to raise revenue for the government, your employer. You have essentially contracted to be liable for the debts of your master, the federal government.
http://www.usa-the-republic.com/revenue/true_history/Chap6.html
What? That doesn't make sense. The 14th amendment states:Melchior said:I am not a citizen of the United States. I am a Citizen of the sovereign state of Florida.
shuamort said:What? That doesn't make sense. The 14th amendment states:
are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
These are not mutually exclusive, an and/or proposition, or stating that you are a citizen of a state and not a country. I have no interest in sludging through 7 hours of video, so can you explain where this thought is coming from?
ShamMol said:Dual citizenship is recognized by the court. That is why you are both a subject (citizen) of your home state and the country as well. It basically also helps out the supremecy clause because it makes everyone fall under one category where they cannot claim immunity because they dont' have to follow fed law because they are in a state and only a citizen of that state.
That's *soo* true!Melchior said:We the people are above the government, the government serves us. This new entity, this citizen of the United States, is below the government, is subject to government.
psholtz said:That's *soo* true!
Good to see you here Melchoir!! :2wave:
Melchior said:Have any of you ever questioned this amendment? Read it carefully...
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
I am not subject to the jurisdiction thereof. This is a republic, not a monarchy, and I am not a subject.
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I beg to differ with you. When I became a citizen of this country many years ago, I swore an oath to, among other things, renounce citizenship in any other country. There is no such thing as dual citizenship in this country.ShamMol said:Dual citizenship is recognized by the court. That is why you are both a subject (citizen) of your home state and the country as well. It basically also helps out the supremecy clause because it makes everyone fall under one category where they cannot claim immunity because they dont' have to follow fed law because they are in a state and only a citizen of that state.
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