The Trump Trade War Scam (4 Viewers)

[Jason Warfield]

The Board Stalinists sure are melting down, this couldn't have anything to do with it, could it?

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Looks like you cherry picked the graph. TheDoctorWasIn beat me to it with the graph.

Also, remember that the numbers tank whenever Trump starts threatening with tariffs. We've been seeing that yo-yo effect since the idiot started this whole mess.

I do find it ironic that the MAGA-mites are quick to not use the stock markets as a general baseline when things are going poorly...but then hypocritically say it is, when things look a little better.

Lastly, as I said before in a previous post...trying to return to the status quo is not a victory, it is an attempted correction of the Trump administration's economic mistakes.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Looks like you cherry picked the graph. TheDoctorWasIn beat me to it with the graph.

That's just today's DOW - to the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left.

So much for the stock market crashing.....

 

[Jason Warfield]

That's just today's DOW - to the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left.

So much for the stock market crashing.....

Yes, for today, and possibly for the next 90 days...if Trump doesn't do or say something stupid to tank various markets again.

Also, noted that you ignored my comment that you are using one market that is trying return to the status quo as a victory, which it isn't. A victory would be when (or if) we win the trade war with China and our markets (please note the word is plural) are exceeding past what it was when Trump stepped up the trade war with China and the world. When our production exceeds those parameters. When jobs, job quality, inflation, etc. exceeds what the status quo was at the beginning of all of this. Then you can claim victory.

All you did, was show a partial graph of one market, on one day, during a specific time period. That is all you did. Honestly, tomorrow could be better, or might not. But even then, we are still crawling back towards the status quo. There is no victory here.

I think you actually know that, but like all MAGA-mites, you think the battle is the war, hence your boring comments about the " wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left." You are so desperate to win, that you can't admit that you aren't winning.

 

[ElChupacabra]

People forget the alternative scenario of talks breaking down and both side digging in their heels for a protracted battle. Wall street is relieved that this didn't happen.

It also didn't like that this whole thing started either.

 

[lolbert]

This trade war is awful. I tried to buy a bottle of Diet Coke that used to cost 1.00 only for it to now cost almost 4 dollars. This is big government socialism. I voted for Trump; now the leopards ate my face. We need to elect Rand Paul to save America.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, for today, and possibly for the next 90 days...if Trump doesn't do or say something stupid to tank various markets again.

Also, noted that you ignored my comment that you are using one market that is trying return to the status quo as a victory, which it isn't. A victory would be when (or if) we win the trade war with China and our markets (please note the word is plural) are exceeding past what it was when Trump stepped up the trade war with China and the world. When our production exceeds those parameters. When jobs, job quality, inflation, etc. exceeds what the status quo was at the beginning of all of this. Then you can claim victory.

All you did, was show a partial graph of one market, on one day, during a specific time period. That is all you did. Honestly, tomorrow could be better, or might not. But even then, we are still crawling back towards the status quo. There is no victory here.

I think you actually know that, but like all MAGA-mites, you think the battle is the war, hence your boring comments about the " wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left." You are so desperate to win, that you can't admit that you aren't winning.

What I showed is a single number, that undermines the narrative of the party and their corrupt media have been pushing for the last couple of weeks.

The reason the DOW - THE most important market - is surging is that we are "winning" the trade war.

The reason I put "winning" in quotes is because there is not trade war, despite the attempts of the party and their media to inflame one. What there is are a series of lopsided trade deals that corrupt or inept politicians (in the case of Joe Biden, both) have saddled us with. Trump is negotiating trade that better serves America. That doesn't always thrill investors, who often are globalist.

What I recognize is that the war against America in trade has more to do with democrats and their propaganda corps than China, India, or any foreign concern.

 

[ElChupacabra]

That's just today's DOW - to the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left.

So much for the stock market crashing.....

Well it did take a dive as a result of the tariff fiasco, and now any news that the tariff fiasco might be nearing an end causes the markets to react well. It would seem odd for a person who causes a sell off to take credit for market gains when those gains are a direct rebuking of that person's policy.

 

[Chomsky]

It's the price to pay for being someone who exaggerates a lot. The folks not eager to take information and ignore the obvious issues are going to call people like this out on it. This is probably a better song choice:

Alright, then let's go even further back! Rod Argent!

 

[Lovebug]

He deserves every kick he gets. Up or down.

He fails utterly to meet my minimum standard for being someone I would help if they were drowning or stuck in a burning car. (Before you start, he was on my “don’t drown if I’m the only one around” list LONG before he fooled a bunch of terrible people into believing that if they made him president he would raise them up above their actual betters. Now I would mock him the whole time.)

I'd still help. It is who I am.

 

[Lovebug]

Could have skipped the talks altogether by not doing the stupid "Liberation Day." It's only making things worse.

He would have had less attention. He can't have that.

 

[Lovebug]

The Stalinists are having a really bad day, throw a little salt on their self-inflicted wounds.

Is that the latest Fox buzzword?

 

[devildavid]

People forget the alternative scenario of talks breaking down and both side digging in their heels for a protracted battle. Wall street is relieved that this didn't happen.

Trump started the battle. He created a problem where there wasn’t one. He dig his heels in from the start. Now he is backing down. This is an all an act started by Trump. He is only backing down on the problems that he created because it didn’t work the way he wanted it to.

 

[devildavid]

What's your timeline for the demise of the Democratic Party?

I am not so sure I wish to see the Democratic Party go bye-bye, but as the trash I see around here just keeps piling up and none of you are interested in cleaning it up, there is nothing else possible, except for us Independents to take your place. Quite sad, too. You folks better find a new "Kennedy" for your leader, or your demise will be even more obvious after the next mid-terms.

Very, very sad. Historians will see it all summarized right here on this site. Some clever graduate student is going to write a term paper on how this site was an excellent demonstration of the why and how of the demise of the Democratic Party.

Very, very sad!

We already have seen the demise of the Republican Party. Trump took care of that when he hijacked it for his personal aggrandizement.

 

[multivita-man]

An obvious first victim of Trump's tariff back-track is his big beautiful bill, or at least a coherent argument that he can come close to funding it with tariff revenue.

 

[BirdinHand]

The reason I put "winning" in quotes is because there is not trade war, despite the attempts of the party and their media to inflame one. What there is are a series of lopsided trade deals that corrupt or inept politicians (in the case of Joe Biden, both) have saddled us with. Trump is negotiating trade that better serves America. That doesn't always thrill investors, who often are globalist

This post demonstrates what “delusion” looks like.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

People forget the alternative scenario of talks breaking down and both side digging in their heels for a protracted battle. Wall street is relieved that this didn't happen.

No.

The alternative scenario would have been to leave our well functioning economy alone.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

People forget the alternative scenario of talks breaking down and both side digging in their heels for a protracted battle. Wall street is relieved that this didn't happen.

The alternative was no trade war to begin with.

 

[devildavid]

What I showed is a single number, that undermines the narrative of the party and their corrupt media have been pushing for the last couple of weeks.

The reason the DOW - THE most important market - is surging is that we are "winning" the trade war.

The reason I put "winning" in quotes is because there is not trade war, despite the attempts of the party and their media to inflame one. What there is are a series of lopsided trade deals that corrupt or inept politicians (in the case of Joe Biden, both) have saddled us with. Trump is negotiating trade that better serves America. That doesn't always thrill investors, who often are globalist.

What I recognize is that the war against America in trade has more to do with democrats and their propaganda corps than China, India, or any foreign concern.

What specific trade deals did Joe Biden make that were lopsided? Trump made deals in his first term. Why doesn’t he like them in his second term? Was he a corrupt politician then?

Trump started a joke of trade war and since then has been backing down because it is failing. He is a clueless buffoon who starts trouble then backs off and claims to have solved the trouble he started. And his cult followers fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Trump is masterfully playing the oldest game in business. You need leverage which he has America imports 3.8 trillion in goods. We are the largest market in the world. Then he threatens a country with high tariffs. This forces them to negotiate and Trump is one step ahead. His goal is 2 things, open their markets and pay a 10% KICKBACK for the pleasure of selling to America. We get 10% of 3.8 trillion every year. China will pat 40% because of covid and theft of our copyrights. If 10% is too much then build here. INflation is down, jobs beat expectations 7 trillion is being invested in America and this month we collected a record amount of kickbacks

 

[SoccerCoach]

This post demonstrates what “delusion” looks like.

Think of the plan this way, Trump uses leverage and the threat of high tariffs to force negotiations. All he wants is access to their markets and 10% kickback for the pleasure of selling to America. Oldest game in business. Grease my palm and you get what you want. We get 10% of 3.8 trillion every year

 

[BirdinHand]

Think of the plan this way, Trump uses leverage and the threat of high tariffs to force negotiations. All he wants is access to their markets and 10% kickback for the pleasure of selling to America. Oldest game in business. Grease my palm and you get what you want. We get 10% of 3.8 trillion every year

Americans pay the 10% tariff.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Americans pay the 10% tariff.

The manufacturer pays. We dont have to buy the free market drives down prices. Nike makes a sneaker fir 13.00 wholesales it for 100.00 and it retails for 150.00. Nike will cut the wholesale price or they wont sell them. When Trump first put tariffs on China prices went down and there was low inflation.

 

[BirdinHand]

The manufacturer pays. We dont have to buy the free market drives down prices. Nike makes a sneaker fir 13.00 wholesales it for 100.00 and it retails for 150.00. Nike will cut the wholesale price or they wont sell them. When Trump first put tariffs on China prices went down and there was low inflation.

No.

The importer pays. The person getting the goods off the cargo ships.

Could be a direct consumer, could be a distributor, could be a retailer, could be a manufacturing company.

This has been explained quite possibly hundreds of times now.

Chinese manufacturers do NOT pay US tariffs. Americans do.

And NIKE isn’t going to start making their shoes in the US. What portion of tariffs they pass on in a tariff is to be seen - NIKE also isn’t typically the end retailer, they wholesale TO retailers and those individuals and stores sell to consumers.

You’re not demonstrating a very good understanding.

The rest of your post is also complete bullshit.

 

[SoccerCoach]

Trump started the battle. He created a problem where there wasn’t one. He dig his heels in from the start. Now he is backing down. This is an all an act started by Trump. He is only backing down on the problems that he created because it didn’t work the way he wanted it to.

Its working perfectly all Trump wants is a 10% tariff and access to a country's market. We import 3.8 trillion and every country will pay a 10% kickback. Oldest game in business. Thats exactly what the UK deal was. China will pay 40% for covid and stealing our patents. Trump has the leverage and is using it perfectly. JObs are beating expectations, gas and food are down 7 trillion is being invested in America.

 

[BirdinHand]

Its working perfectly all Trump wants is a 10% tariff and access to a country's market. We import 3.8 trillion and every country will pay a 10% kickback. Oldest game in business. Thats exactly what the UK deal was. China will pay 40% for covid and stealing our patents. Trump has the leverage and is using it perfectly. JObs are beating expectations, gas and food are down 7 trillion is being invested in America.

Repeating the same bullshit doesn’t make it true.