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The Third Gender

RamFel

RamFel

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I know, I know, I know.

I get it! Gays (according to some of you) are natural. Homosexuality is natural.

But I believe that everything in nature has a purpose. If it was created, then it fits in to a plan, or a system. It has to be part of something! And as any part of any system, there are usually inter-dependencies or interconnectivity. Some parts of a system interdepend or interconnect to other parts of the system.

Gays don’t seem to have any purpose. If they engage in homosexual sex, they can’t procreate. But they CAN procreate if they have straight sex. When it comes to sex, they can only fulfill its true purpose when they engage in straight sex. If gay sex is so natural, why is it that they can’t procreate without engaging in straight sex?

If gays and homosexual sex are natural, then why did God create them? And just how do they fit in? Where’s the interconnectivity? The interdependence?

It’s as if they’re a third gender without an interdependency, and that doesn’t sound natural to me.
 
RamFel said:
But I believe that everything in nature has a purpose.
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Well, you are wrong. Some things just are.

But I am sure I could still find some benefit to a population for having homosexuals if I tried. Let’s see, if there is an overpopulation problem there would certainly be a benefit to an increased rate in births of homosexuals. They contribute labor and resources to the community without further contributing to the overpopulation problem.

Homosexuality is common in so many other mammalian species that you would be hard pressed to convince me that it isn’t natural. But that said, who gives a f—k if it is natural? There ain’t nothing natural about the vast majority of things I do throughout the day, to include having this online discussion with you.
 
Sarcogito said:
Well, you are wrong. Some things just are.

But I am sure I could still find some benefit to a population for having homosexuals if I tried. Let’s see, if there is an overpopulation problem there would certainly be a benefit to an increased rate in births of homosexuals. They contribute labor and resources to the community without further contributing to the overpopulation problem.

Homosexuality is common in so many other mammalian species that you would be hard pressed to convince me that it isn’t natural. But that said, who gives a f—k if it is natural? There ain’t nothing natural about the vast majority of things I do throughout the day, to include having this online discussion with you.
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Yeah, you can find benefits, but you can't tell me what their purpose is, can you?
 
RamFel said:
I know, I know, I know.

I get it! Gays (according to some of you) are natural. Homosexuality is natural.

But I believe that everything in nature has a purpose. If it was created, then it fits in to a plan, or a system. It has to be part of something! And as any part of any system, there are usually inter-dependencies or interconnectivity. Some parts of a system interdepend or interconnect to other parts of the system.

Gays don’t seem to have any purpose. If they engage in homosexual sex, they can’t procreate. But they CAN procreate if they have straight sex. When it comes to sex, they can only fulfill its true purpose when they engage in straight sex. If gay sex is so natural, why is it that they can’t procreate without engaging in straight sex?

If gays and homosexual sex are natural, then why did God create them? And just how do they fit in? Where’s the interconnectivity? The interdependence?

It’s as if they’re a third gender without an interdependency, and that doesn’t sound natural to me.
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Well first of all I dont think you quite understand what gender is. You also assume that there is a god. You also assume that homosexuality couldnt have a purpose. You also assume that the only purpose something could possibly have is to reproduce. You also assume that absolutely everything in nature has to have a purpose and cannot be the result of a mistake.
 
RamFel said:
Yeah, you can find benefits, but you can't tell me what their purpose is, can you?
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Well no one knows for sure what the purpose of homosexuality is or even if there is one. But there are plenty of theories on what purpose it could serve. For example it could be to cut down on the competition amongst males for females.
 
Jetboogieman said:
It's a genuine question.

What do you think is homosexual sex?
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Homosexual sex is when two(or more) people of the same chromosome combination attempt to use their reproductive organs on another or each other.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Well I was wondering if you were going to answer the question.
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id be shocked if you ever get a honest answer.

this post failed before it was even written lol
 
RamFel said:
OK, sounds like you don't know their purpose either.
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OK! Then.

See the OP already shows you have no understanding of the subject of homosexuality or sexuality at all.

So let me break this down for you real quick.

There is no such thing as homosexual sex or straight sex.

Because if you say well... homosexual sex is when two gay people engage in sexual intercourse via for example Anal sex... then what does that make a straight couple that engage in anal sex?

Homo-Straight sex?

Not to mention the difference between Sexual Behaviour and Sexual Orientation.

Meaning that if a straight man engages for whatever reason in anal sex with another man. That's a sexual act... not homosexual sex not only because homosexual sex isn't a thing just like the homosexual lifestyle right wingers make up but that says nothing about the persons sexual orientation.

You following me so far or are we going back to invisible beings that there is no evidence of?
 
Jetboogieman said:
OK! Then.

See the OP already shows you have no understanding of the subject of homosexuality or sexuality at all.

So let me break this down for you real quick.

There is no such thing as homosexual sex or straight sex.

Because if you say well... homosexual sex is when two gay people engage in sexual intercourse via for example Anal sex... then what does that make a straight couple that engage in anal sex?

Homo-Straight sex?

Not to mention the difference between Sexual Behaviour and Sexual Orientation.

Meaning that if a straight man engages for whatever reason in anal sex with another man. That's a sexual act... not homosexual sex not only because homosexual sex isn't a thing just like the homosexual lifestyle right wingers make up but that says nothing about the persons sexual orientation.

You following me so far or are we going back to invisible beings that there is no evidence of?
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That doesn't answer my question. How you define things doesn't explain why gays exist.
 
RamFel said:
That doesn't answer my question. How you define things doesn't explain why gays exist.
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We don't even know why anything exists so how the hell should I know why gays exist?

I was only trying to point out the factual Inaccuracies in your OP.

Because if you start from a point of ignorance you're never going to get the right answer.
 
Objective-J said:
id be shocked if you ever get a honest answer.

this post failed before it was even written lol
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How did it fail?

Do you know the answer to my question?
 
Jetboogieman said:
We don't even know why anything exists so how the hell should I know why gays exist?

I was only trying to point out the factual Inaccuracies in your OP.

Because if you start from a point of ignorance you're never going to get the right answer.
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I told you that he wouldnt give you an honest answer and that this post failed before it was even written LOL
 
RamFel said:
How did it fail?

Do you know the answer to my question?
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its a failure because the logical connection you seem to be trying to make are complete failures. Some of it is even very contradictory.

BUT, i could be wrong.

Please tell us all the point of your OP.
 
Jetboogieman said:
We don't even know why anything exists so how the hell should I know why gays exist?

I was only trying to point out the factual Inaccuracies in your OP.

Because if you start from a point of ignorance you're never going to get the right answer.
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Great. You can't answer the question. That's all you had to say.
 
Objective-J said:
I told you that he wouldnt give you an honest answer and that this post failed before it was even written LOL
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Honesty is not part of most social Conservatives mantras.

Just look at hateful buggers like the Family Research Council who use to put out "research" that suggested that homosexuals were more likely to be paedophiles.
 
Objective-J said:
its a failure because the logical connection you seem to be trying to make are complete failures. Some of it is even very contradictory.

BUT, i could be wrong.

Please tell us all the point of your OP.
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I want to know "what the purpose for homosexuals?"
 
Jetboogieman said:
Honesty is not part of most social Conservatives mantras.

Just look at hateful buggers like the Family Research Council who use to put out "research" that suggested that homosexuals were more likely to be paedophiles.
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yeah i never understood the connection people try to make between homosexuals and pedophiles it immediately shows how uneducated and bigoted they are.
 
RamFel said:
Great. You can't answer the question. That's all you had to say.
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I dont understand what your trying to do here. Some things in nature dont have a point to them. Homosexuality may or may not be one of them. If you want to know a possible purpose of homosexuality I posted one of the theories on the first page.
 
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