The Supreme Court rejects Biden’s plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loans

[Cardinal]

When Conservatives went after "activist judges," they were merely announcing what kinds of judges they wanted. This is as ideologically activist as it gets. The decision is, of course, 6-3. Only a complete reorganization of the court can fix this.

Biden, true to his fondness for understatement, said "This isn't a normal court."

And to pre-empt the obvious "That's because Biden's decision wasn't Constitutional" reply, that's a circular argument. It's not Constitutional if the court says it's not Constitutional. That's an appeal to the raw, ideological exercise of power and nothing else.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

The 6-3 decision, with conservative justices in the majority, effectively killed the $400 billion plan, announced by President Joe Biden last year, and left borrowers on the hook for repayments that are expected to resume by late summer.

The Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt

Follow our live coverage after a sharply divided Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

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[Bucky]

When Conservatives went after "activist judges," they were merely announcing what kind of judges they wanted. This is as ideologically activist as it gets. The decision is, of course, 6-3. Only a complete reorganization of the court can fix this.

Biden, true to his fondness for understatement, said "This isn't a normal court."

WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

The 6-3 decision, with conservative justices in the majority, effectively killed the $400 billion plan, announced by President Joe Biden last year, and left borrowers on the hook for repayments that are expected to resume by late summer.

The Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt

Follow our live coverage after a sharply divided Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

apnews.com

Why does a plumber who works 50-80 hours a week have to fund the next intern at JP Morgan?

Student loan cancellation is greatly unfair and destructive to society.

 

[Cardinal]

Why does a plumber who works 50-80 hours a week have to fund the next intern at JP Morgan?

Student loan cancellation is greatly unfair and destructive to society.

Because nothing says "A strong modern economy" like a nation of plumbers.

Which leads to another point, actually: most people here are very, very old, and the framework they're working within is the student debt they incurred in the 70's and 80's (which is basically nothing). The debt I incurred in the 90's was much higher than what most posters here incurred, and much less than what students today incur.

 

[Higgins86]

When Conservatives went after "activist judges," they were merely announcing what kinds of judges they wanted. This is as ideologically activist as it gets. The decision is, of course, 6-3. Only a complete reorganization of the court can fix this.

Biden, true to his fondness for understatement, said "This isn't a normal court."

And to pre-empt the obvious "That's because Biden's decision wasn't Constitutional" reply, that's a circular argument. It's not Constitutional if the court says it's not Constitutional. That's an appeal to the raw, ideological exercise of power and nothing else.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

The 6-3 decision, with conservative justices in the majority, effectively killed the $400 billion plan, announced by President Joe Biden last year, and left borrowers on the hook for repayments that are expected to resume by late summer.

The Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt

Follow our live coverage after a sharply divided Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

apnews.com

Is it unprecedented for the court to undermine a President like this over something as normal as an economic package?

 

[Cardinal]

Is it unprecedented for the court to undermine a President like this over something as normal as an economic package?

No, actually. The Supreme Court did this for Roosevelt, and only when he threatened their power did they reign themselves in. But the power dynamic is much different today, and this court knows it's immune to oversight.

 

[Bucky]

Because nothing says "A strong modern economy" like a nation of plumbers.

Which leads to another point, actually: most people here are very, very old, and the framework they're working within is the student debt they incurred in the 70's and 80's (which is basically nothing). The debt I incurred in the 90's was much higher than what most posters here incurred, and much less than what students today incur.

Having the backbone of middle-American fund people who knowingly got loans with six-figure salaries is greatly unfair and problematic.

 

[Athanasius68]

Since President Biden didn't simply argue, incorrectly, that he had the authority to unilaterally cancel student loans, but took actual concrete actions to advance the argument, has he committed a 'crime?'

 

[dmpi]

This will help the goverment deficit which apparently only matters to Republicans.

 

[Paradoxical]

When Conservatives went after "activist judges," they were merely announcing what kinds of judges they wanted. This is as ideologically activist as it gets. The decision is, of course, 6-3. Only a complete reorganization of the court can fix this.

Biden, true to his fondness for understatement, said "This isn't a normal court."

And to pre-empt the obvious "That's because Biden's decision wasn't Constitutional" reply, that's a circular argument. It's not Constitutional if the court says it's not Constitutional. That's an appeal to the raw, ideological exercise of power and nothing else.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

The 6-3 decision, with conservative justices in the majority, effectively killed the $400 billion plan, announced by President Joe Biden last year, and left borrowers on the hook for repayments that are expected to resume by late summer.

The Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt

Follow our live coverage after a sharply divided Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

apnews.com

LOL. A 6-3 decision is now "sharply divided"? This may be why no one reads the MSM anymore.

They ruled that the Department of Education has no authority to just burden taxpayers with 400 BILLION dollars of loans that people don't feel like paying off.

The SC is 3 for 3 and we all should thank Donald Trump for installing constitutionalists on the bench instead of ideologues intent on fundamentally changing America as Obama pines for and is accomplishing in his 3rtd term behind the scenes.

Thank you, Donald Trump, the next president who will make America Grtaet Afgain like it was when he was there before.

 

[Cardinal]

Having the backbone of middle-American fund people who knowingly got loans with six-figure salaries is greatly unfair and problematic.

So the only two careers you're capable of imagining is "plumber" and "stock trader."

You navigate a fascinating world, where you run into only plumbers and stock traders. I'd like to follow you throughout your regular day to see how you function.

 

[Cardinal]

This will help the goverment deficit which apparently only matters to Republicans.

No it won't. That's completely separate and I doubt you're capable of understanding that.

 

[Athanasius68]

When Conservatives went after "activist judges," they were merely announcing what kinds of judges they wanted. This is as ideologically activist as it gets. The decision is, of course, 6-3. Only a complete reorganization of the court can fix this.

Biden, true to his fondness for understatement, said "This isn't a normal court."

And to pre-empt the obvious "That's because Biden's decision wasn't Constitutional" reply, that's a circular argument. It's not Constitutional if the court says it's not Constitutional. That's an appeal to the raw, ideological exercise of power and nothing else.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court ruled Friday that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

The 6-3 decision, with conservative justices in the majority, effectively killed the $400 billion plan, announced by President Joe Biden last year, and left borrowers on the hook for repayments that are expected to resume by late summer.

The Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt

Follow our live coverage after a sharply divided Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority in trying to cancel or reduce student loans for millions of Americans.

apnews.com

Then I guess President Biden should have worked with the Democratic Congress back when he had a chance. The two branches could have then lawfully exercised raw power. But he didn't.

And the president doesn't have the authority to appropriate money.

 

[Bucky]

LOL. A 6-3 decision is now "sharply divided"? This may be why no one reads the MSM anymore.

They ruled that the Department of Education has no authority to just burden taxpayers with 400 BILLION dollars of loans that people don't feel like paying off.

The SC is 3 for 3 and we all should thank Donald Trump for installing constitutionalists on the bench instead of ideologues intent on fundamentally changing America as Obama pines for and is accomplishing in his 3rtd term behind the scenes.

Thank you, Donald Trump, the next president who will make America Grtaet Afgain like it was when he was there before.

I don't understand why Biden was so committed in wiping out loan obligations to a group of people making six figures and good salaries.

 

[StillServing]

Is it unprecedented for the court to undermine a President like this over something as normal as an economic package?

An interesting take on the situation. I looked for it, but I didn't see where Article 2 gives the executive branch the authority to change established law.

 

[Cardinal]

I don't understand why Biden was so committed in wiping out loan obligations to a group of people making six figures and good salaries.

Because he wasn't.

So far, every response to the OP is trolling. When you're in the wrong, trolling is all you got.

 

[Cardinal]

It'll be interesting to see where this goes. That said, a court that's only interested in the raw exercise of ideological power can slap anything down.

 

[Bucky]

Because he wasn't.

So far, every response to the OP is trolling. When you're in the wrong, trolling is all you got.

Those with the most student loans are doctors and lawyers.

Why are you shilling for the rich?

 

[Grand Mal]

Is it unprecedented for the court to undermine a President like this over something as normal as an economic package?

That was my reaction too. Whatever one thinks of the plan, why is the Supreme Court involved?
I swear, sometimes it looks like the Constitution gets treated like the Bible. Each faction cherry-picks it for affirmations of their beliefs and biases.

 

[Cardinal]

An interesting take on the situation. I looked for it, but I didn't see where Article 2 gives the executive branch the authority to change established law.

That's because you didn't look for anything.

 

[Bucky]

It'll be interesting to see where this goes. That said, a court that's only interested in the raw exercise of ideological power can slap anything down.

Why do doctors and lawyers need protection?

 

[Cardinal]

Why do doctors and lawyers need protection?

Oh, so now you're aware that there are doctors and lawyers in addition to plumbers and stock traders. This is what I call "improvement."

Are you aware of the existence of other careers? Shall we list them all?

 

[Cardinal]

I agree with this. The court's rampant corruption, non-legal and ideological rulings, and its disconnect with the public are going to be major 2024 issues.

Let's Make Supreme Court Corruption a Campaign Issue

Reforming the Supreme Court may be the only way to restore its legitimacy

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[gbg3]

This really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. For a long time now, it was felt Biden overstepped with something that needs to be up to Congress in deciding the "purse".

 

[StillServing]

That's because you didn't look for anything.

And yet, your response still does not illuminate how President Biden, nor his Education Secretary, had the Constitutional authority to unilaterally change federal law.

 

[Cardinal]

This really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. For a long time now, it was felt Biden overstepped with something that needs to be up to Congress in deciding the "purse".

Interesting. You had to temporarily take me off ignore just to see this thread. Then perhaps you already saw this in the OP (though I suspect you've already put me back on ignore):

And to pre-empt the obvious "That's because Biden's decision wasn't Constitutional" reply, that's a circular argument. It's not Constitutional if the court says it's not Constitutional. That's an appeal to the raw, ideological exercise of power and nothing else.