SKILMATIC said:Well as kal-el said before there a thread on this already. However, I will still be kind enough to post. I beleive oe thing and only one thing. The cloning or the chance of cloning is wrong. It was wrong 3000yrs ago and guess what? It is stil wrong today.
However, if there still was a way to surmise the evidentiary support of the potential way of not being able to clone but to find cures for deseases like cancer and aids then I am all for it.
However, if the direct or indirect result is cloning then absolutely not Thats really my own opinion though. People may think cloning is cool. Or people may not even care for embryos. But I care for only one thing no cloning and no possible cloning.
SKILMATIC said:Well as kal-el said before there a thread on this already. However, I will still be kind enough to post. I beleive oe thing and only one thing. The cloning or the chance of cloning is wrong. It was wrong 3000yrs ago and guess what? It is stil wrong today.
However, if there still was a way to surmise the evidentiary support of the potential way of not being able to clone but to find cures for deseases like cancer and aids then I am all for it.
However, if the direct or indirect result is cloning then absolutely not Thats really my own opinion though. People may think cloning is cool. Or people may not even care for embryos. But I care for only one thing no cloning and no possible cloning.
Duke said:One thing to add to you statment, cloning is ultra expensive and extremly hard. For instance, out of 3000 possilbe clone embryos for a dog, only one worked. And that's a dog, for crying out loud.
Duke
suetoneous said:Duke, I believe I just recently heard [on network news] that scientists hv invented a new process by which unborn fetus’ do not hv to be “violated.” Someone correct me if i'm wrong... If this is true then this whole topic is moot.
Obras said:Duke, I don't know how you can even imagine destroying embryos. Anything that has the potential to become a human should never be senselessly murdered.
Duke said:Obras, if you didn' read my first statment, these embryos are going to be destroyed anyway, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it, unless you have 50 billion$ laying around somewhere. There is nothing else you can do with these embryos other than research, unless you have a helluva lot of $$$. From your point of view, it is the lesser of 2 evils, because you can same millions of lives.
Duke
Obras said:You should never take innocent lives. For anything. I understand that in a case like this it might seem very attractive but it is a very slippery slope that I don't want to go near.
Duke said:It's not a matter of attraction, it's a matter inevitiability. It is inevitable that these cells will be destroyed. It is either to save lives or nothing at all. Which do you chose?
Duke
Obras said:Death is an inevitiability. Do you know why murder is a crime? Because it speeds a certain individuals death up a lot. There is no way to prove we will save lives by destroying innocent embryos.
kal-el said:That's interesting. O well, science has no bounds, so I would'nt be suprised.
Obras said:Death is an inevitiability. Do you know why murder is a crime? Because it speeds a certain individuals death up a lot. There is no way to prove we will save lives by destroying innocent embryos.
Duke said:Embryonic stem cells are no more alive than your fingernail. There is insurmountable evidence that hundreds of scientests have found that stem cells would cure many diseases, including so large killer ones like AIDS. And, I said about 4 times now, but I'll say it again: there is nothing else to be done with these embryos. Do you understand or should I say it a few more times?
Obras said:I do not care if there is nothing else to be done with the embryos. They shouldn't be destroyed.
Duke said:The only way to keep them from being destroyed is if you have tons of money and freezers, to keep them deep frozen until the end of time.
Duke
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