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The USA is not a foreign country.
Parts of this country are looking more and more like Europe, at least philosophically, every day.
Which has nothing to do with any bill on background checks taking away your rights.
Not directly. However, the acceptance of European ideals deeply concerns many of us. Especially when it comes to things like gun ownership and other Conservative values.
They want to get re-elected. It's as simple as that unless they actually do hold some respect for the Constitution...
Which has nothing to do with any bill on background checks taking away your rights.
People who are vigilant in protecting the Constitution don't like slippery slopes.
One then has to wonder why so many on the right seem to be permanently living at the intersection of Slippery Slope Street and Paranoia Place.
Just try to put more regs on abortion, and find out who lives on that corner too.
93% of Americans are in favor of
background checks. Sad that 46 Senators lack a backbone to stand up to the NRA and the wacko gun lobby.
Sorry Zyph...but you are wrong. I don't support banning handguns.
I do, however, believe that there are some weapons such as military assault weapons that justifiably should be banned.
I don't support gun bans.
And YES....I do believe that there are people out there who should not be able to own weapons...but because I believe that convicted felons and mentally ill individuals should not be able to possess guns does not mean that I believe in a flat-out weapon ban.
THE DEERHUNTER.
Robert DeNiro.
"This is this, this isn't something else, this is this."
Well, wonderful job moving the goal post there.
Thanks for admitting you flat out were lying and being amazingly dishonest.
Congratulations...you show yourself to be a complete and utter hyper partisan whose words should never be considered to be anything more than bull**** as you will willingly and happily lie about what you feel to push your agenda.
Disgusting, simpilar to the disgusting fake attempt to cry about "liberty and justice for all" in your signature. You don't give a damn about civil rights, you just a typical hollow politically driven shill who will say anything to push their agenda and to hell with principles.
And more dishonesty by your civil rights hating self, as you declare people who wish to own certain guns to be "mentally ill". Thus the very notion of wanting to exercise ones civil right makes them target to be restrained from doing it by the government.
It's a sick and twisted form of logic. Congratulations, your disgust and disdain for civil liberties is on par with those afraid of "the gays" getting married. You're no better than them, you tailor your arguments and your views to suit your bigoted view point just like they do to justify your assault on civil liberties.
No, YOU were the one that brought up the opinion that conservatives are paranoid or scared of the slippery slope. I just pointed out your inconsistency. Of course I should know better than to argue with one who is inconsistent. Welcome to the ignore list.
You did NOT point out any inconsistency. You simply attempted to employ the age old tactic that defended your own idiots by saying some of your enemies are also idiots. Such an assertion - while making you feel good about yourself and your allies - does nothing in any way shape or from to negate the truth of paranoia on the far right on this issue.
I don't think it is paranoia at all when we have on record legislators proving across the spectrum that intentions behind legislation is designed to reach ends that are not what is provided in the actual legislation.
I think all of us - of all stripes and persuasions - can find a few people who voice opinions that perhaps cause us serious concern. However, the kind of people you are talking about are the exceptions rather than the rule and have demonstrated no power at all to deliver on their wishes. Taking that into consideration, it is not at all rational to allow ones mind to be controlled or manipulated by a small number of people voicing extreme views which are going nowhere.
Although intellectually that may very well be true, I for one, am not one to just wait to see if it happens, because frankly when it does happen, it is too late.
Not just those on the right, but also we moderate democrats object to the constant left wing barrage against private ownership of firearms. There is more than one reason to believe the average gun control nut wants to eliminate our second amendment rights totally.Daily Kos: How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term processOne then has to wonder why so many on the right seem to be permanently living at the intersection of Slippery Slope Street and Paranoia Place.
Disney and Haymarket both exemplify what I mean when I speak of left wing attempts to incrementally eliminate all our rights. There, "just a little gun control" is nothing more than "a little now, a little later and eventually we get the entire piece of gun control pie." I object to any gun control if for no other reason not to be incrementalized to death.You claimed you did not support gun bans. Not "complete gun ban". Not "ban on all guns". But "gun bans", full stop. You then claim you support some gun bans.
You lied. You decieved. You were dishonest. Which fits with your bogus signature line and hollow hypocritical stance on civil rights.
Everything else is you backpeddling trying to cover your tail.
It is people like you that are the individuals behind this legislation and like you they can not be trusted, which is exactly why I'm happy to see it fail before it goes any farther.
POLL
Is there anyone on this forum who does not believe it is the absolute intent of most Gun Control nuts to eliminate the private ownership of firearms?
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