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The Secret Service deleted 5th and 6th emails after request by January 6th Committee!

The AntiDonald said:
If what you say is correct, and Comey was fired supposedly (According to Trump) because of the way he handled the Clinton investigation, then all the more reason to re-open it and prosecute if warranted.
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You're saying Donald Trump should have found someone who wasn't afraid of clinton to reopen the case? Agreed. Good luck finding anyone like that in Washington though.
 
jnug said:
Please......you sound desperate now.

You don't get the Chief of Operations job from Trump late in a troubled presidency unless you prove ultimate loyalty to him. In other words, be a complete toady. You don't Eem get to first base with Trump unless you are a toady. To get to the position Ornato achieved you have to be a complete toady.

Hutchinson was under oath. I don't give a damn whether she needed money or not which sounds like a RUMOR. You don't lie under oath. Whatever troubles you think you have, you will have increased them by orders of magnitude.
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She WAS under oath which is why they won't bring in the Secret Service guys and never asked Cipollone about the limousine ride. They are trying to save her from a perjury charge. She has been debunked about the note she said SHE wrote and didn't and about what happened in the limo. She begged the trump team for money. Look it up. She was refused. undoubtedly she was mad and desperate and the 1-6 committee said they could give her (ahem) witness fees and not be bound by the pittance that regular criminal trials are bound by.
 
Paradoxical said:
She WAS under oath which is why they won't bring in the Secret Service guys and never asked Cipollone about the limousine ride. They are trying to save her from a perjury charge. She has been debunked about the note she said SHE wrote and didn't and about what happened in the limo. She begged the trump team for money. Look it up. She was refused. undoubtedly she was mad and desperate and the 1-6 committee said they could give her (ahem) witness fees and not be bound by the pittance that regular criminal trials are bound by.
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bbm: The onus is on you to provide a link to support this statement
 
Glenn Kirschner: Secret Service Erased J6 Texts? We are Living in a Sea of Unaddressed Lawlessness.

Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

 
This is what happens when you lie to cover up wrong doing.
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Watchdog: Secret Service's text messages story has shifted several times

Sat 16 Jul 2022 12.30 EDT

The Secret Service’s account about how text messages from the day before and the day of the Capitol attack were erased has shifted several times, the inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security told the House January 6 select committee at a briefing on Friday.

At one point, the explanation from the Secret Service for the lost texts was because of software upgrades, the inspector general told the panel, while at another point, the explanation was because of device replacements.

The inspector general also said that though the secret service opted to have his office do a review of the agency’s response to the Capitol attack in lieu of conducting after-action reports, it then stonewalled the review by slow-walking production of materials.

After the inspector general raised his complaints, he then discussed the feasibility of reconstructing the texts. But the issues so alarmed the select committee that the panel moved hours later to subpoena the Secret Service, according to participants at the briefing. >>>>>

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ages-january-6
 
Geoist said:
So what are we missing? The more we learn the worse it looks for Trump.
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Federal antagonists in the crowd and within various groups attending, Cap police allowing entrance. Pelosi not allowing national guard troops and the treatment of those arrested. Just to name a few.
 
Credence said:


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So it gets more absurd by the minute:
- SS is at this moment trying to gather what they do have for texts and emails and other comms that is responsive to the House Select Committee subpoena
- while you would expect the SS to be as rigorous about backing up its phone text messages as the FBI is (remember the embarrassing Strzok/Page texts all saved) apparently SS is quite blasé regarding their texts. NO GOOD REASON FOR IT. NONE....ZERO....NADA
- There would also appear no good reason if no texts exist from 1/5 and 1/6 regardless of whether they are blasé about backing them up
- Regardless of what texts might be missing, if there are emails missing.......look out......it will be hard to make that seem incidental under any circumstances

At this point I am not sure I want to hear from either Ornato or even the Agent in charge Engels until SS cleans up its act! This is a freaking joke. FBI backs up its texts but the holier than thou [NOOOOOT] SS does not.

I would at this point prefer to hear from the MDCP officer that apparently saw the dispute between Engels and Trump though honestly, I don't really even want to hear from him all that much. Not much interested in hearing from Engels and not interested in Agent turned Political Hack Ornato under any circumstances.
 
WCH said:
Federal antagonists in the crowd and within various groups attending, Cap police allowing entrance. Pelosi not allowing national guard troops and the treatment of those arrested. Just to name a few.
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Putting aside your conspiratorial nonsense, let's just ignore the f***ing POTUS going completely silent for 3 hours only to show up on video to call the rioters 'very special people.' Deplorable.
 
Geoist said:
Putting aside your conspiratorial nonsense, let's just ignore the f***ing POTUS going completely silent for 3 hours only to show up on video to call the rioters 'very special people.' Deplorable.
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Most of us didn't need Trump to tell us the election was a farce. Now that everything has gone to shit, others are starting to realize it was.

You?
 
Sand Castle said:
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Oh now that was money well spent now wasn't it. Most of it spent for rights for the "women and the girls" which was like pushing on a rope. The medieval country of Afghanistan was not ready for it to the extent that pushing on a rope would yield a result.

And oh by the way....what have we been doing for "women and girls" in our own country lately. Now there is irony for ya'

Obama should have listened to Joe Biden and gotten the hell out a decade ago. Foreign policy was one of the giant holes in Obama's leadership credentials.
 
WCH said:
Most of us didn't need Trump to tell us the election was a farce. Now that everything has gone to shit, others are starting to realize it was.

You?
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Take it to the CT subforum.
 
CaughtInThe said:
folks. there are cult members/far right extremists in our military and in organizations like the Secret Service.

now it's all of our jobs to press those with oversight to root them out.
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Do we also need to root out the far left extremist.
 
Outstanding Secret Service!!! They are now claiming they cannot recover any of the text messages requested by either the IG or the House Select Committee.

Sort of lends new meaning to the distinction of Secret Service Agent. Apparently, more privileged than FBI agents. LAUGHABLE
 
NolanVoyd said:
Deleting communications after a lawful order to preserve them is a crime.
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I would think backing up communications especially by a dept under DHS would be required whether the texts were requested or not
 
IMO this is a coverup

July 19, 2022
Secret service cannot retrieve texts: No new details for J6 committee

The U.S. Secret Service has determined it has no new texts to provide Congress relevant to its Jan. 6 investigation, and that any other texts its agents exchanged around the time of the 2021 attack on the Capitol were purged, according to a senior official briefed on the matter.

Also, the National Archives on Tuesday sought more information on “the potential unauthorized deletion” of agency text messages. The U.S. government’s chief record-keeper asked the Secret Service to report back to the Archives within 30 days about the deletion of any records, including describing what was purged and the circumstances of how the documentation was lost.

The law enforcement agency, whose agents have been embroiled in the Jan. 6 investigation because of their role shadowing and planning President Donald Trump’s movements that day, is expected to share this conclusion with the Jan. 6 committee in response to its Friday subpoena for texts and other records.

The agency, which made this determination after reviewing its communication databases over the past four days, will provide thousands of records, but nearly all of them have been shared previously with an agency watchdog and congressional committees, the senior official said. None is expected to shed new light on the key matters the committee is probing, including whether Trump attacked a Secret Service agent, an account a senior White House aide described to the Jan. 6 committee.

 
How did the Secret Service lose its Jan. 6 texts? So far, the explanations won't wash

Secret Service denies it "maliciously" deleted Jan. 6 texts. But they're gone, and our republic needs them

By NORMAN EISEN - FREDERICK BARON - DENNIS AFTERGUT

Published July 20, 2022 6:00AM (EDT)

The U.S. Secret Service motto is "Worthy of Trust and Confidence." Recent events, including the apparent deletion of Jan. 6 evidence, have put a large question mark after that phrase, and the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection is moving to answer the question. Producing a complete inventory of the agency's texts around Jan. 5 and 6, 2021, is vital to the committee's search for truth.

The Secret Service was already embroiled in controversy about whether former agents may have been involved in witness intimidation targeting star committee witness Cassidy Hutchinson for her testimony about Trump's violent intent on Jan. 6. Then, on July 13, it emerged that the agency had deleted text messages relating to what happened on Jan. 5 and 6, and apparently did so after Inspector General Joseph Cuffaris requested them. Next, Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi wrote that some of the agency's phone data had been lost due to a "pre-planned, three-month system migration" requiring agents to reset their mobile phones. His statement "confirmed to [the Inspector General] that none of the texts it was seeking had been lost in the migration."

The Secret Service was already embroiled in controversy about whether former agents may have been involved in witness intimidation targeting star committee witness Cassidy Hutchinson for her testimony about Trump's violent intent on Jan. 6. Then, on July 13, it emerged that the agency had deleted text messages relating to what happened on Jan. 5 and 6, and apparently did so after Inspector General Joseph Cuffaris requested them. Next, Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi wrote that some of the agency's phone data had been lost due to a "pre-planned, three-month system migration" requiring agents to reset their mobile phones. His statement "confirmed to [the Inspector General] that none of the texts it was seeking had been lost in the migration."

The committee subpoenaed the texts. According to committee member Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat, the Secret Service said "they, in fact, had "pertinent texts." But on July 19, the Service announced it had nothing further to produce, apparently contradicting the statement that "none of the texts . . . had been lost." The Service has vigorously denied the IG's charges that it obfuscated or "maliciously" deleted texts. But when an agency cannot seem to keep its story straight, it is Congress' oversight responsibility to penetrate the fog of facts.

That the agency has offered shifting explanations about the disappearing texts is alarming — their relevance would have been obvious to any law enforcement agency. Without question, any scheduled data deletion or device-replacement program should have been immediately suspended due to the paramount importance of preserving evidence regarding the historically unprecedented events of Jan. 6.

www.salon.com

How did Secret Service lose its Jan. 6 texts? So far, no good answers

Secret Service denies it "maliciously" deleted Jan. 6 texts. But they're gone, and our republic needs them
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