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The rise of Hitler

Yes, this is what happens when antisemitism is in full flower.

The leftists in this forum should stop supporting those who want to kill Jews.
 


Ernst Röhm returns after having been hanging out in Bolivia for a few years. Hitler immediately puts him in charge of the SA, with the task to reform and strengthen the SA. Hitler also gives a rare interview to a Jewish journalist (that traps him in a Beer Hall in Berlin), and Hitler promises that he doesn't want to hurt the Jews, just stop Jews from minxing with Germans and trying to take over the country. He also calls the government Jewish, without presenting any proof to that claim.

German Miners get to choose whether they accept a 8% wage cut or are fired. The Communists call for a strike, but only some miners, around 40.000 of them heed to the call and starts striking. The police, aided by the Nazis breaks up the strike by shooting at them, killing some of the strikers.

Bismark is remembered in the Reichstag. Every party except KPD participate in the remembrance, with the right wing parties showing nostalgia for the German Empire. Hitler writes that he is the new Bismark and will bring back Bismark's Reich. The KPD writes in their newspapers wild criticism of the SPD, for participating in Imperialist and Fascist behaviour by honoring Bismark.
 


Hitler argues in a Nazi affiliated newspaper in Danzig that Germany's future is in the east and needs more land, because the German people is too large for the area they live on. Furthermore Hitler argues in speeches this month that Germany can't rely on foreign trade, but must be self sufficient, a closed economy, but to achieve that they need more land.
The Communist and the Nazis both walk out of the Reichstag to make sure the Reichstag doesn't have enough people present to function, however it backfires, and instead they decided to go for full obstructionism, and demand a separate roll call vote for every single issue on the budget. There is another walkout, and this time some other German nationalists leaves too. So Nazis and Commies that hate each other more than anything cooperate to make sure the Reichstag does not function. However their walkout had the opposite effect, there was just enough people left in the Reichstag to function and the Reichstag now passes the law and budget unanimously. The Nazis proclaim they will now boycott the Reichstag. Several Nazi newspapers are temporarily banned in Germany and also in Czechoslovakia, which makes the Nazis blame the Czechoslovaks of being the real cultprit. Communist newspapers get the same treatment and KPD calls it a Capitalis Conspiracy. Meanwhile Röhm is centralizing the SA, appointing all SA leadership himself. Röhm is creating SA more like an army, a tool to bring the nationalist revolution.
 
The problem is Germans didn't have the hindsight we have when they elected him.

It should be noted that the Nazis only received 44% of the votes in the 1932 election. It was a coalition that made it possible for Hitler to be named Chancellor.
 
I equate Hitler and Nazism with rabid-right-wing politics.

I've always known what happened in 1920's-1930's Germany could happen anywhere, anytime - that all nations and societies can be susceptible to adopting and acting on this and similar ideologies.
Well Said!
 
It's false to think WW1 inevitably led to the Nazis and WW2. Just as much was about how Germany developed in the inter-war years, and just unwillingness to create a democratic front against the anti- democratic parties: NSDAP, DNVP and KPD. On the contrary the bourgeois saw cooperation with the clearly authoritarian minded DNVP as better than with SPD, and later they saw handing the power over to the Nazis as a better alternative than to work with SPD.
Read my post

The aftermath and conditions for peace at Versailles led to WW2.

During the depression the Allies did not give Germany an inch on reparations.
 
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Hitler is vowing that he will never get rid of the SA. Meanwhile Hindenburg seem to be doing Hitler's work for him, by limiting civil rights. Now any meeting has to be announced and approved by the police in advance. The Communists are furious. The Nazis are also not happy, but they will be later when they will use this. The Reichstag is adjourned into October, which means the Reichstag will have no power and the government can rule by decree. How did this happen? Well remember last month how the Nazis walked out and started to boucot the Reichstag. A simple majority would have been needed to overturn this, so if the Nazis had been there, this plan would not have worked.

But there is something else going on. Is that an Anschluss in the air? Are the Austrians and Germans plotting to unify? At least the French think so and they are not happy. A planned customs union between Germany and Austria is seen by the French as the first step towards a political union. Briand is fuming so much Paris becomes filled with smoke.

In Thuringia the coalition government led by DVP that included the Nazis collapsed because the Nazis were on the federal level insulting DVP, which DVP could not ignore on the local level anymore.
 
Yes, this is what happens when antisemitism is in full flower.

The leftists in this forum should stop supporting those who want to kill Jews.

They're their voters
 
It should be noted that the Nazis only received 44% of the votes in the 1932 election. It was a coalition that made it possible for Hitler to be named Chancellor.

Interesting how minority reactionaries can take over a country.
 
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