Navy Pride
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Comrade Brian said:This is a forum to discuss economics, not for a petty-partisan feud.
Navy Pride said:Who died and made you boss? There are other threads in this forum about SS...........Get a clue.......
128shot said:He's not "the boss" but the fact you blame everything on the democratic party is not needed IMO.
However, it still a good post.
Navy Pride said:My friend I did not make those facts up.......
128shot said:Twisting words now?
I said it was a good post, and that the blatant attack on the democratic party was worthless. However there was substance.
Navy Pride said:You are playing both sides of the debate aren't you?
The facts speak for theirselves...........
Navy Pride said:Who died and made you boss? There are other threads in this forum about SS...........Get a clue.......
Comrade Brian said:No one made me "the Boss", but this forum is about economics, not "democrats did this, republicans will do this" type of thing, its very tiresome what you do.
What I want to know is, if all these terrible SS problems are the result of the Democrats, why haven't the Republicans fixed them? They have controlled Congress since 1994, and the WH, House and Senate since 2000.
Comrade Brian said:No one made me "the Boss", but this forum is about economics, not "democrats did this, republicans will do this" type of thing, its very tiresome what you do.
Iriemon said:What I want to know is, if all these terrible SS problems are the result of the Democrats, why haven't the Republicans fixed them? They have controlled Congress since 1994, and the WH, House and Senate since 2000.
Navy Pride said:I don't know what planet you live on but the Republicans have tried to fix SS but have been blocked by the dems using their obstructionist filibuster........
Ivan The Terrible said:Iriemon,
Well they have been trying. But the people are so hooked to government hand outs that to completely fix it would be down right imposable.
Iriemon said:You mean, the Republicans, who control a majority in the House and Senate and the White House didn't pass laws to fix it because the minority Democrats opposed their efforts?
Ooooo! Those scary Democrats!
How many Republicans supported the Democrats when they had the guts to pass a tax increase in 1993?
Navy Pride said:Did you even follow the battle for SS in the Senate in 2004? Do you know what the filibuster is? Never mind it is obvious you don't.....
Iriemon said:My understanding of a filibuster is that various members continue debate, and it applies only in certain procedural situations in the Senate. But I'm not sure, so explain it to us. Do the filibuster rules apply to both the House and the Senate? Can it prevent legislation from passing? How could it be used if the Repulbican majority wanted to pass laws gutting social security? Can it be applied to any legislation or just certain procedural situations (like Supreme Court nominations)? Why wasn't it used, for example, in the recent law passed by the Republicans increasing the debt ceiling to $9 trillion?
Thanks.
Navy Pride said:It is obvious you did not keep upo with the debate on SS so there is no sense in debating with you on the issue, besides this thread is about how democrats have ruined SS....
Try and stay on topic...........Thanks
Iriemon said:First you criticize me for not having your great knowledge about filibusters, then you can't tell us how it works. Thanks for the enlightenment. I see nothing has changed with your debating tactics.
I must have missed it 2004 when the Dems defeated the Republicans efforts to gut SS with the filibuster. From what I saw, it appeared to me that most folks in this country wanted nothing to do with Bush's inane privatization proposal, and rather than having the guts to do something unpopular, the Repandercans cut-n-ran.
Navy Pride said:I have a flash for you..SS is already in deep trouble..........Even your boy Clinton said that in 1998 as did many other dems..............
The republicans offered a plan to fix it without raising taxes.......That is the only way that dems know to solve a problem..Pour more money into a black hole.......
Private SS accounts are the way to go.......If I was a young person I would be jumping all over that.........Its to bad that young people are not informed enough and drink the liberal koolaid.........
Now can we please get back on topic? Thanks.........
Iriemon said:I agree the SS program has problems, thanks to the fact that over $2 trillion has been stolen from the SS trust fund to finance the Republican deficits.
Navy Pride said:If you were honest you would admit that both parties have stolen from the SS fund........
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