The Real Threat to Women’s Sports Isn’t Trans Athletes. It’s Sexually Predatory Coaches.

[Phys251]

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wi...rans-athletes-its-sexually-predatory-coaches/ (TW:SA)

All this language of the need to “protect,” the need to root out other children from “bathrooms” and “locker rooms,” is hard to square with reality. As with the introduction of “bathroom bills,” the anti-trans argument is a red herring. It is another example of conservatives standing athwart progressive social change in the name of protecting children—long a hallmark of right-wing reactionary politics.

Moral panics almost always accompany freakouts about the need to "protect the children." From what, exactly? Physical safety, it seems.

The current moral panic by ultraconservatives is against trans women in athletics. Like most moral panics, they distract from actual, serious problems.

As scandal after scandal emerges about the pervasive abuse of young athletes, it’s time we reevaluate our priorities. Trans athletes aren’t the problem.

Of course, some will read this and dismiss it. Maybe they are under the delusion that predators in sports "aren't so bad"?

 

[MamboDervish]

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wi...rans-athletes-its-sexually-predatory-coaches/ (TW:SA)

Moral panics almost always accompany freakouts about the need to "protect the children." From what, exactly? Physical safety, it seems.

The current moral panic by ultraconservatives is against trans women in athletics. Like most moral panics, they distract from actual, serious problems.

Of course, some will read this and dismiss it. Maybe they are under the delusion that predators in sports "aren't so bad"?

Considering the history of sexual predation in the world, it's a wonder why castration isn't a more prevalent punishment.

 

[Phys251]

Considering the history of sexual predation in the world, it's a wonder why castration isn't a more prevalent punishment.

Not only is forced castration cruel and unusual punishment, it doesn't work. Sexual assault is a tool of power, not sex, and it doesn't require the predator's genitals to commit.

 

[gino]

2 separate issues. One does not negate the other.

 

[Antiwar]

It's interesting seeing conservatives trying to be for female rights.

 

[MamboDervish]

Sexual assault is a tool of power, not sex, and it doesn't require the predator's genitals to commit.

Pretty hard to make the case that it's not about sex to the victims. I suspect if they were asked, those who were sexually assaulted would say it was certainly about sex. If not, then it wouldn't qualify as sexual assault. Coaches of gymnasts are very demanding. They already have all the power they need.

Be that as it may, I'll bet that castration would be a deterrent. And I'd be genuinely surprised if, as you assert, "it doesn't work".
Have you any data showing that those who've been castrated continue to commit sexual assault?

 

[Phys251]

Pretty hard to make the case that it's not about sex to the victims. I suspect if they were asked, those who were sexually assaulted would say it was certainly about sex. If not, then it wouldn't qualify as sexual assault.

Sexual organs are involved, but the attacker's goal is power, not sex.

Coaches of gymnasts are very demanding. They already have all the power they need.

Very strange point to make. Sexual predators feel that they never have enough power.

Be that as it may, I'll bet that castration would be a deterrent. And I'd be genuinely surprised if, as you assert, it doesn't work. Have you any data showing that those who've been castrated continue to commit sexual assault?

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And even if it were a deterrent, forced castration is cruel and unusual punishment. Even criminals have rights.

 

[TurtleDude]

It's interesting seeing conservatives trying to be for female rights.

do you support high school girls losing track meets or basketball games to boys?

 

[Antiwar]

do you support high school girls losing track meets or basketball games to boys?

Are you an athletic supporter?

 

[TurtleDude]

Are you an athletic supporter?

the biggest of jocks. My cup runneth over!

 

[Omniscient]

The Real Threat to Women’s Sports Isn’t Trans Athletes. It’s Sexually Predatory Coaches.

or maybe its the ignorance of the girls parents. if the girls were taught more self-esteem and body rights they would have the guts to stand up to these coaches earlier

 

[Phys251]

or maybe its the ignorance of the girls parents. if the girls were taught more self-esteem and body rights they would have the guts to stand up to these coaches earlier

Do not blame the victims of sexual assault. Ever.

 

[Omniscient]

Do not blame the victims of sexual assault. Ever.

its not about blame, its about learning, and if you dont learn you will keep getting hurt

 

[Aristaeus]

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wi...rans-athletes-its-sexually-predatory-coaches/ (TW:SA)



Moral panics almost always accompany freakouts about the need to "protect the children." From what, exactly? Physical safety, it seems.

The current moral panic by ultraconservatives is against trans women in athletics. Like most moral panics, they distract from actual, serious problems.



Of course, some will read this and dismiss it. Maybe they are under the delusion that predators in sports "aren't so bad"?

I mean, they are both threats in different ways and both need to be addressed.

Heck, there's at least one poster on this site that thinks transwomen (i.e. a male) should be able to box against 'cis' women.

 

[Phys251]

I mean, they are both threats in different ways and both need to be addressed.

Nope, they're not. To say that they are is to enable the pedophiles.

 

[Max Bender]

https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wi...rans-athletes-its-sexually-predatory-coaches/ (TW:SA)



Moral panics almost always accompany freakouts about the need to "protect the children." From what, exactly? Physical safety, it seems.

The current moral panic by ultraconservatives is against trans women in athletics. Like most moral panics, they distract from actual, serious problems.



Of course, some will read this and dismiss it. Maybe they are under the delusion that predators in sports "aren't so bad"?

I hope men destroy women's sports.

 

[Aristaeus]

Nope, they're not. To say that they are is to enable the pedophiles.

What the hell??

They are both threats in very different ways. How is allowing transwomen to compete in women' sports not a threat to their livelihood, success, and in some cases health? Predatory coaches are a sexual threat to both female and male athletes.

 

[Phys251]

I hope men destroy women's sports.

Finally, someone says out loud what other right-wingers won't.

 

[Phys251]

What the hell??

They are both threats in very different ways.

It's not my fault that you're offended by facts.

How is allowing transwomen to compete in women' sports not a threat to their livelihood, success, and in some cases health?

Bald-faced lie. You have chosen to fall for the latest moral panic.

Predatory coaches are a sexual threat to both female and male athletes.

If you really did care about sexual predators in sports, then you'd disengage from this stupid moral panic and start going after actual pedophiles and their enablers. Like Gym Jordan.

 

[Max Bender]

Finally, someone says out loud what other right-wingers won't.

Its what the dingleberries on the left have set in motion. Maybe after the idiots on the left destroy women's sports maybe the people will wake up to the cancerous effect leftism has had on America

 

[Phys251]

Its what the dingleberries on the left have set in motion. Maybe after the idiots on the left destroy women's sport maybe the people wi wake up to the cancerous effect leftism has had on America

 

[Max Bender]

You can be as upset as you like but you have destroyed women's sport and I hope it's complete and severe

 

[Aristaeus]

It's not my fault that you're offended by facts.



Bald-faced lie. You have chosen to fall for the latest moral panic.



If you really did care about sexual predators in sports, then you'd disengage from this stupid moral panic and start going after actual pedophiles and their enablers. Like Gym Jordan.

I don't know how you can't see that both are threats in different ways. I don't even know why you are bringing up 2 completely separate issues in one thread.

Are you suggesting that predatory coaches are the only threat in women's sport?

 

[mrjurrs]

or maybe its the ignorance of the girls parents. if the girls were taught more self-esteem and body rights they would have the guts to stand up to these coaches earlier

Stop. It is the predators fault. Period.

 

[Phys251]

I don't know how you can't see that both are threats in different ways.

More lies that water down the seriousness of actual sexual predators.