"Modern"???According to the coward in the Kremlin Ukraine was created by Russia or the Bolsheviks and is not a "real nation". That is not true, Ukraine was first declared as a nation by Ukrainians in 1917. Ukraine was during late WW1 and the Russian Civil War a battelground between the Ukrainian nationalists, the Central Powers (until their defeat), the Red Army, the White Army, the Black Army (Makhno's Anarchists), various Green (peasant) Armies and the Poles.
And while they all fought over Ukraine they all also persecuted the Ukrainian Jews, one of the many dark chapters of Ashkenazi Jewish history.
But one thing Ukraine as a nation wasn't. was an invention by anyone else than the Ukrainians themselves.
You just cannot stop stumping for Putin, can you?"Modern"???
You went back more than a hundred years.
I thought you were going to talk about the corruption in that country in the last two or three decades.
I didn't say a word about Putin. Why did YOU bring him up?You just cannot stop stumping for Putin, can you?
According to the coward in the Kremlin Ukraine was created by Russia or the Bolsheviks and is not a "real nation". That is not true, Ukraine was first declared as a nation by Ukrainians in 1917. Ukraine was during late WW1 and the Russian Civil War a battelground between the Ukrainian nationalists, the Central Powers (until their defeat), the Red Army, the White Army, the Black Army (Makhno's Anarchists), various Green (peasant) Armies and the Poles.
And while they all fought over Ukraine they all also persecuted the Ukrainian Jews, one of the many dark chapters of Ashkenazi Jewish history.
But one thing Ukraine as a nation wasn't. was an invention by anyone else than the Ukrainians themselves.
The majority of the people of the Russophone south identifies as Ukrainian. Ukrainian identity doesn't follow the linguistic lines.I will say the Ukrainian Nation exists as a fact, whether anyone, including Ukrainians, declare it or not. If that is what Putin was dismissing then I cannot see how he is correct.
But the Ukrainian State is a whole other matter. Crimea, for one, was gratuituously added to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic by Kruschev. It is also disputable whether the Ukrainian State is entitled to its Russophone south and the Donbass
The majority of the people of the Russophone south identifies as Ukrainian. Ukrainian identity doesn't follow the linguistic lines.
FFS you keep repeating Putin propaganda for him. You just mentioned corruption in Ukraine, it's the same as what Putin is saying. And you seem to jump at the chance to defend Putins war for him..in every thread.I didn't say a word about Putin. Why did YOU bring him up?
I don't give a rat's ass what Putin says. The corruption in Ukraine is fact.FFS you keep repeating Putin propaganda for him. You just mentioned corruption in Ukraine, it's the same as what Putin is saying. And you seem to jump at the chance to defend Putins war for him..in every thread.
It's such an odd time to make such an assertion and have it conveniently mirror what Putin's propaganda machine is pumping out. Did you think that no one would notice the obvious?I don't give a rat's ass what Putin says. The corruption in Ukraine is fact.
shrug. I face facts. Why don't you?It's such an odd time to make such an assertion and have it conveniently mirror what Putin's propaganda machine is pumping out. Did you think that no one would notice the obvious?
Yet you constantly share lies manufactured to harm the US.shrug. I face facts. Why don't you?
I'm just guessing, but I think many Trumpsters hate Ukraine because Zelensky didn't bend a knee to Trump.Yet you constantly share lies manufactured to harm the US.
That would take a rationale that Trump-inspired traitors do not have. In reality, Trump hates Ukraine so they hate Ukraine. And Trump hates Ukraine because Putin hates Ukraine. So really it's Putin's propaganda that's to blame for their hate on Ukraine.I'm just guessing, but I think many Trumpsters hate Ukraine because Zelensky didn't bend a knee to Trump.
If Zelensky had agreed to announce a phony investigation into Biden, we wouldn't be seeing this vitriol directed at Ukraine.
It's odd how so many rightists agree with Russia that Ukraine has no right to sovereignty but insist that Taiwan is a legitimate independent country.According to the coward in the Kremlin Ukraine was created by Russia or the Bolsheviks and is not a "real nation". That is not true, Ukraine was first declared as a nation by Ukrainians in 1917. Ukraine was during late WW1 and the Russian Civil War a battelground between the Ukrainian nationalists, the Central Powers (until their defeat), the Red Army, the White Army, the Black Army (Makhno's Anarchists), various Green (peasant) Armies and the Poles.
And while they all fought over Ukraine they all also persecuted the Ukrainian Jews, one of the many dark chapters of Ashkenazi Jewish history.
But one thing Ukraine as a nation wasn't. was an invention by anyone else than the Ukrainians themselves.
It's odd how so many rightists agree with Russia that Ukraine has no right to sovereignty but insist that Taiwan is a legitimate independent country.
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