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The real Che Guevara

Lefties who wear the t-shirt bearing his face, see themselves as carrying on the values of resistance to capitalist oppression and solidarity with the working class. In reality, the record shows Che was a totalitarian, mass murderer whose face does not belong on the T-shirts of college students who profess to love liberty.
 
Lefties who wear the t-shirt bearing his face, see themselves as carrying on the values of resistance to capitalist oppression and solidarity with the working class. In reality, the record shows Che was a totalitarian, mass murderer whose face does not belong on the T-shirts of college students who profess to love liberty.
i agre …..

agree ….
 
Due to Che’s own testimonials, and to his thoughts and his deeds. In April 1967, speaking from experience, he summed up his homicidal idea of justice in his “Message to the Tricontinental”: “hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.” On January 28, 1957, already in the Sierra Maestra, he wrote to his wife: “Here in the Cuban jungle, alive and bloodthirsty.”
 
The “cold-blooded killing machine” did not show the full extent of his rigor until Castro put him in charge of La Cabaña prison. Guevara presided during the first half of 1959 over one of the darkest periods of the revolution. Javier Arzuaga, the Basque chaplain who gave comfort to those sentenced to die and personally witnessed dozens of executions, recalls that: “The revolutionary tribunal was made of militiamen. Che Guevara presided over the appellate court. He never overturned a sentence…. After I left in May, they executed many more, but I personally witnessed fifty-five executions.” Four hundred people were executed between January and the end of June in 1959, when Che ceased to be in charge of La Cabaña.
 
At the end of 1959, as head of the National Bank of Cuba and of the Department of Industry of the National Institute of Agrarian Reform, and in early 1961, as Minister of Industries, Che had a chance to put into practice his economic vision. The period that he was in charge of Cuban economy, saw the near-collapse of sugar production, the failure of industrialization, and the introduction of rationing. By 1963, the Castro regime accepted its role as a colonial provider of sugar to the Soviet bloc in exchange for oil to cover its needs and to re-sell to other countries. For the next three decades, Cuba would survive on a Soviet subsidy of around 80 billion.
 
Can Leftists Really Not Find A Better 'Icon' Than Che Guevara? (thefederalist.com)

BY: JOSEPH BOUCHARD AND GARION FRANKEL OCTOBER 09, 2023

Che Guevara was not a hero. He was evil. And no self-respecting freeman should wear a T-shirt with Che’s likeness plastered all over it.

Oct. 9 will mark 56 years since the death of Cuban guerrilla Ernesto “Che” Guevara. Apparently, it does not matter that he helped the Castros create an authoritarian regime that now supports the oppression of hundreds of millions of people around the world, because clueless college students at Syracuse University in New York still elevate Che as a representative of liberation and “free” thinking.

But this ignorant reverence is much more pervasive than a mural on display at a particular university — Che remains a popular and venerated figure despite his rightfully infamous reputation. College students all over the Americas (often from wealthy families) use his image to LARP as communist revolutionaries. They have worn their Che T-shirts proudly, fancying themselves the saviors of the poor and oppressed, despite the fact that most of these T-shirts are made in sweatshops in Central America.
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Guevara's claim to fame was the role he played alongside Fidel and Raul Castro in installing a totalitarian communist regime in Cuba then attempting to spread this model using violent means in Africa and Latin America, to spread his toxic philosophy of political action that others seek to emulate. He embraced hatred and dehumanization of the other as the means to carry out what he called necessary actions.
 
Guevara's claim to fame was the role he played alongside Fidel and Raul Castro in installing a totalitarian communist regime in Cuba then attempting to spread this model using violent means in Africa and Latin America, to spread his toxic philosophy of political action that others seek to emulate. He embraced hatred and dehumanization of the other as the means to carry out what he called necessary actions.
A few years ago we stayed at a casa particulaire in Trinidad de Cuba hosted by a woman who would put her hand over her heart when she said, "Che!". But she was a black woman old enough to remember how it was for black women before the revolution.
 
A few years ago we stayed at a casa particulaire in Trinidad de Cuba hosted by a woman who would put her hand over her heart when she said, "Che!". But she was a black woman old enough to remember how it was for black women before the revolution.
Che’s racism becomes evident in these comments in his travel diary: “The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese. The contempt and poverty unites them in the daily struggle, but the different way of dealing with life separates them completely; the black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations.”
 
Che became a pop culture icon, the patron saint of progressives who wear his picture. Among them, he became a symbol of countercultural rebellion against capitalism. But in an ironic twist of history, Che owes his posthumous pop culture success to old-fashioned property rights.
 
Che became a pop culture icon, the patron saint of progressives who wear his picture. Among them, he became a symbol of countercultural rebellion against capitalism. But in an ironic twist of history, Che owes his posthumous pop culture success to old-fashioned property rights.
Probably the greatest success story of US Special Forces was the tracking and extermination of this psychotic butcher along with their Bolivian army allies.
 
Probably the greatest success story of US Special Forces was the tracking and extermination of this psychotic butcher along with their Bolivian army allies.
What can you expect from a communist like Che Guevara. He was a murdered that had no personal courage. Justice eventually caught up to Che Guevara, but not before he murdered hundreds of innocent Cubans.
 
The statement about Guevara and courage is idiotic. Guevara can be very criticized as a murderer, but there's a point to understanding him more as well. He was radicalized when he travelled South America and saw great poverty, and when he was working in a hospital in Guatemala in 1954 when the US overthrew the government.

 
The statement about Guevara and courage is idiotic. Guevara can be very criticized as a murderer, but there's a point to understanding him more as well. He was radicalized when he travelled South America and saw great poverty, and when he was working in a hospital in Guatemala in 1954 when the US overthrew the government.

So, the people he helped to free in Cuba don’t live in poverty? That’s pure BS. Aside from the elite communists running the country every one else lives in poverty. That’s what communism is good for. Except for the few everyone else lives like a dog hoping for a scrap and are brainwashed into believing they’re toiling for a better future.
 
So, the people he helped to free in Cuba don’t live in poverty?

I didn't say that. Don't misrepresent people's posts.

That’s pure BS. Aside from the elite communists running the country every one else lives in poverty. That’s what communism is good for. Except for the few everyone else lives like a dog hoping for a scrap and are brainwashed into believing they’re toiling for a better future.

The system is bad under Castro. It was worse under Batista, most felt. The US makes it a lot worse with an unjustified economic embargo.
 
Che wrote, “we executed many people by firing squad without knowing if they were fully guilty.” Proving guilt or innocence is irrelevant to the left, only that it fits their talking points. The end justify the means.
 
The Word (Jesus) became flesh and made his dwelling among us

The real Che Guevara: . . . thank you for this information .. I hope to learn more about Che Guevara and his Communistic / Socialistic murderous agenda . . . God help our youth .. so many brainwashed by the leftwing-media and government schools . . . turning him into an icconic hero ( a symbol of revolution ) I'm sure it won't be long .. they'll be follwing in his footsteps
Its been more than a decade since ive seen a Che shirt, just parodies.
 
Also why the **** did you guys necro this thread from 2010? Y’all bored or somethin?
 
Che became a pop culture icon, the patron saint of progressives who wear his picture. Among them, he became a symbol of countercultural rebellion against capitalism. But in an ironic twist of history, Che owes his posthumous pop culture success to old-fashioned property rights.

The patron saint of progressives? Violent Central and South American socialists and communists perhaps, but I have not seen any progressives who believe in democracy here or elsewhere lauding Che Guevara. Claiming he is the patron saint of progressives is about as accurate and generous as saying Mussolini remains the patron saint of patriotic conservatism.
 
Comandante Ernesto "Che" Guevara is still dead, his ideas are still toxic, and need to be buried along with him.
 
María Werlau

"It has been the most successful marketing campaign of modern times because there is no country where the image of Che Guevara has not been seen. Even in Poland, a country that has suffered so much from communism, I have seen images of Che."

Álvaro Peñas — May 29, 2023

María Werlau is the co-founder and executive director of Cuba Archive, a non-profit think tank that defends human rights, and author of numerous books in English and Spanish on diverse topics related to Cuba. Her published works include Cuba’s intervention in Venezuela and The forgotten victims of Che Guevara. She has a bachelor’s degree in foreign service from the University of Georgetown and a master’s degree in international studies from the University of Chile.

Part 1

“Yes, we have shot, we shot and we will continue to shoot,” said Che at the United Nations. Is this the phrase that best portrays Che Guevara?


Yes, because he enjoyed killing. I have spoken to many people who knew him, including the parish priest of La Cabaña, the fortress that was the prison where Che was in charge of revolutionary justice. He liked it and told the priest so, a man who couldn’t stand it any longer and had to leave after six months and after accompanying 55 people to the wall. Che wrote about this and was very clear about it.
Che Guevara enjoyed killing. Here is Che recounting the execution of Eutimio Guerra: “I fired a 32 caliber bullet into the right hemisphere of his brain which came out through his left temple. He moaned for a few moments, then died.”
 
During the debate in the United Nations General Assembly where Guevara represented de Cuban government, this was severely attacked because of the firing squad executions without any judicial process and evidence as required by the rule of law. Guevara, on his own voiced, responded: “Shooting people yes, we have shoot people and will continue to do so until it will be required.”

Video link: YouTube- che guevara"Che Guevara: AnatomÃa de un mito"
 
Part 2

He didn’t deceive anyone.
Not about this, but he did deceive when he went on television and said that he was not a communist, although I give him credit for being consistent and for having become a guerrilla for his ideals. The unusual thing is how propaganda has turned him into a myth. It was a deliberate campaign to cleanse the image of the Cuban revolution and turn both it and Che into romantic myths. To carry it out, Cuban intelligence enlisted the help of the KGB and its satellites. This is told by Ion Pacepa, former director of the Romanian Securitate, who recounts how they were asked for their help to turn Che into a martyr. I think it has been the most successful marketing campaign of modern times because there is no country where the image of Che Guevara has not been seen. Even in Poland, a country that has suffered so much from communism, I have seen images of Che. And that was the reason for writing this book, because there is a huge bibliography devoted to Che, but nothing about his victims.
Can his reputation survive the publication of his own words? In December 1953, he wrote to his aunt from San José, Costa Rica, “I have sworn before a picture of our old, much lamented comrade Stalin that I will not rest until I see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.” Another letter to the same aunt was signed with the words "Stalin II. More important was the fact that when Guevara visited the USSR in his capacity as one of the most important leaders of the victorious Cuban revolution in November of 1960, he insisted on depositing a floral tribute at Stalin's tomb. It is important to remember that this was more than four years after Khrushchev's revelations of Stalin's crimes.
 
Maybe because the bibliography is really about the myth.

Not necessarily, but what happens is that the best known biographers of Che Guevara, such as Lee Anderson or Castañeda do a very poor job with respect to the victims, they dedicate barely two lines to them.
 
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