The Rapture

[grip]

The heavenly Father is going to put on a display of unmitigated power, the likes of which have never even been imagined. He will leave His holy abode to reveal Himself in all His glory and full regalia, and the heavens themselves will tremble and bow at His presence.

We are the containers for a formless supreme being. God's spiritual essence exists within us and gives us the spark of conscious animated life. The physical universe is an extension of God's unlimited power but not separate from it. The mistake humans make in trying to conceive of God is where He ends and you begin? God is a part of us, as we are a part of God, inseparable as one, yet distinct and different. We share one body, made of earth, and one life-giving spirit but are many different persons or souls. These bodies are temporal and can be replaced but the souls are eternal because of the gift of the eternal spirit, God's essence, which is the foundation for all.

When Jesus returns for the Rapture to receive us with Him in the bosom of the Father, our souls will be resurrected and surrounded by God's spirit body. The pleasure and peace of this will be incomprehensible. The Father will pour out a blessing that fills every sliver of pain, fear, suffering, despair, and indignity that we ever endured. So much so that we will be overjoyed in total wonder and amazement as we are remade in God's heavenly image. Then will the prophecy be fulfilled that God Himself will be with them and wipe away every tear. We will truly be one people then, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, as the Father makes all things new and enduring.

 

[Valery]

Proof?

 

[grip]

Proof?

Belief.

 

[Exquisitor]

If Jesus Christ returns on this planet.

He may not for two reasons, one benevolent and one inauspicious.

Benevolent, in that it was not necessary, or inauspicious that the planet failed.

Christ can appear all over Creation, each planet has a set of convergences.

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[Exquisitor]

Belief.

So you're actively Creating this?

 

[grip]

So you're actively Creating this?

It was all gleaned from the bible but put into simpler words. And no, I'm not going to quote chapter and verse for references.

 

[Exquisitor]

Belief.

The Rapture can happen at any moment for anyone who is prepared.

Group and mass Ascension are called for.

But there are two reasons the angel swears in Daniel 12:7, because it will take that long for the humanity to be ready, and the Lord will wait no longer.

Thus we know He will return at the middle Convergence, when the Meridians have aligned and not the End Convergence, when the Sun passes out of the meridian.

2020-2026 is the white horse Tribulation, the pandemic is the white horse's attempt to convert our diet.

Four more convergences follow in 1000, 2000, 4,500 and 7000 years.

Each one should have the Antichrist, prominent Seal, Teacher or Avatar and beckoning to Ascend.

 

[grip]

The Rapture can happen at any moment for anyone who is prepared.

Group and mass Ascension are called for.

But there are two reasons the angel swears in Daniel 12:7, because it will take that long for the humanity to be ready, and the Lord will wait no longer.

Thus we know He will return at the middle Convergence, when the Meridians have aligned and not the End Convergence, when the Sun passes out of the meridian.

2020-2026 is the white horse Tribulation, the pandemic is the white horse's attempt to convert our diet.

Four more convergences follow in 1000, 2000, 4,500 and 7000 years.

Each one should have the Antichrist, prominent Seal, Teacher or Avatar and beckoning to Ascend.

If you think your sarcastic nonsense dissuades me from expounding on the truth, then you are sorely mistaken. It will occur, and probably sooner than later. The earth is full and teetering on the precipice of intense dysfunction.

 

[Exquisitor]

It was all gleaned from the bible but put into simpler words. And no, I'm not going to quote chapter and verse for references.

What I'm saying is that a lot of Religion tries to exploit the principle, that as a person believes, so is it unto him.

You imagine and desire, all the right sided experience you can imagine and confirmation of your beliefs, so naturally, you want to build a Spiritual Kingdom where you can experience this kind of victory and confirmation, but what is God really? Silence (Job), meticulousness (evolution), tolerance, endurance, forgiveness.

 

[Exquisitor]

If you think your sarcastic nonsense dissuades me from expounding on the truth, then you are sorely mistaken. It will occur, and probably sooner than later. The earth is full and teetering on the precipice of intense dysfunction.

Dude, no rapture is going to save us.

Rapture is in five-million years, this is all just a prelude, a preparation.

 

[grip]

What I'm saying is that a lot of Religion tries to exploit the principle, that as a person believes, so is it unto him.

You imagine and desire, all the right sided experience you can imagine and confirmation of your beliefs, so naturally, you want to build a Spiritual Kingdom where you can experience this kind of victory and confirmation, but what is God really? Silence (Job), meticulousness (evolution), tolerance, endurance, forgiveness.

I cannot possibly prove my hypothesis but it's firmly supported in divinely inspired scriptures. As I said, it's my belief and not a terrible one of judgment and punishment.

 

[tosca1]

Proof?

Faith.


Just like your faith that a so-called "angel from the Abrahamic God" came to Mohammad - you've got no proof.
Heck - even Mohammad didn't have any proof! You just took his word for it.

 

[Exquisitor]

I cannot possibly prove my hypothesis but it's firmly supported in divinely inspired scriptures. As I said, it's my belief and not a terrible one of judgment and punishment.

I accept logic as proof.

 

[grip]

Dude, no rapture is going to save us.

Rapture is in five-million years, this is all just a prelude, a preparation.

It may not happen in my short life that's left but humanity won't even be here in 5 million years.
Besides, nobody knows if we die or if just our body is replaced.

 

[grip]

I accept logic as proof.

What's illogical about what I said?

 

[Exquisitor]

Nothing, I was giving you that, logic says there might be something there, but if you think a second coming is going to save us, or that even half of the Scriptures have been fulfilled you're wrong.

Gog and Magog; Russia and China must March on Israel, and we have Iran with a nuke and would have to live with the infamy.

Have the seas dried up?

He must desecrate the alter and how can he do that when he's stuck in North Korea?

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

The heavenly Father is going to put on a display of unmitigated power, the likes of which have never even been imagined. He will leave His holy abode to reveal Himself in all His glory and full regalia, and the heavens themselves will tremble and bow at His presence.

We are the containers for a formless supreme being. God's spiritual essence exists within us and gives us the spark of conscious animated life. The physical universe is an extension of God's unlimited power but not separate from it. The mistake humans make in trying to conceive of God is where He ends and you begin? God is a part of us, as we are a part of God, inseparable as one, yet distinct and different. We share one body, made of earth, and one life-giving spirit but are many different persons or souls. These bodies are temporal and can be replaced but the souls are eternal because of the gift of the eternal spirit, God's essence, which is the foundation for all.

When Jesus returns for the Rapture to receive us with Him in the bosom of the Father, our souls will be resurrected and surrounded by God's spirit body. The pleasure and peace of this will be incomprehensible. The Father will pour out a blessing that fills every sliver of pain, fear, suffering, despair, and indignity that we ever endured. So much so that we will be overjoyed in total wonder and amazement as we are remade in God's heavenly image. Then will the prophecy be fulfilled that God Himself will be with them and wipe away every tear. We will truly be one people then, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, as the Father makes all things new and enduring.

The best part is that there are some 2000-year-old dudes still living who have been waiting this whole time.

"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Matthew 16:28

 

[grip]

The best part is that there are some 2000-year-old dudes still living who have been waiting this whole time.

"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Matthew 16:28

This is a reference to the appearance of Christ in His glory on the Mount of Transfiguration, where Christ does literally appear in a glorified form, and some of His apostles are there to witness the occasion. It does not mean they live until the second coming.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

This is a reference to the appearance of Christ in His glory on the Mount of Transfiguration, where Christ does literally appear in a glorified form, and some of His apostles are there to witness the occasion. It does not mean they live until the second coming.

Context my friend. Did Christ "come in his Father’s glory with his angels" and "reward each person according to what they have done" on the Mount of Transfiguration? No. He was clearly speaking of the second coming.

"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[f] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” -Matthew 16:24-28

 

[Daisy]

This is a reference to the appearance of Christ in His glory on the Mount of Transfiguration, where Christ does literally appear in a glorified form, and some of His apostles are there to witness the occasion. It does not mean they live until the second coming.

That was a vision...the Bible does not support a rapture...

 

[Daisy]

Context my friend. Did Christ "come in his Father’s glory with his angels" and "reward each person according to what they have done" on the Mount of Transfiguration? No. He was clearly speaking of the second coming.

"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[f] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” -Matthew 16:24-28

It was a vision of Christ in his kingdom rule...some critics have endeavored to class the transfiguration as simply a dream...however, Peter, James, and John would not logically all have had exactly the same dream...Jesus himself called what took place a “vision” Matthew 17:9

 

[grip]

Context my friend. Did Christ "come in his Father’s glory with his angels" and "reward each person according to what they have done" on the Mount of Transfiguration? No. He was clearly speaking of the second coming.

"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[f] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” -Matthew 16:24-28

So you say. I'll stick with my explanation. If there are 2000 yr old men walking around, they're still younger than the angels.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

It was a vision of Christ in his kingdom rule...some critics have endeavored to class the transfiguration as simply a dream...however, Peter, James, and John would not logically all have had exactly the same dream...Jesus himself called what took place a “vision” Matthew 17:9

Exactly. A completely different context from Matthew 16.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

So you say. I'll stick with my explanation. If there are 2000 yr old men walking around, they're still younger than the angels.

Yeah. And they have sword fights, and in the end there can be only one.

 

[Daisy]

Would you be surprised to learn Jesus 2nd presence has already occured? The signs are already here...


“Look out that nobody misleads you, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom,+ and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress." matthew 24:3-8