The Qur'an's wording transports current Jews into the past, thereby blaming them for ancient trangressions.

[ataraxia]

There is a group called Christadelphians that adhere to that. Otherwise hardly any. How does that change anything I've said about the Qur'an?

It's the same thing: there are only some weird fringe groups in every religion that read or take anything in their holy books very seriously.

Are you really not able to imagine how things would be different if ALL Muslims, or even a simple majority, took their holy books seriously like you claim they do? Obviously very different than they are now.

 

[OlNate]

Thank you for such a brilliant ad-hom-in-lieu-of-argument example.

Garbage in / garbage out. Your threads always go the same way. Besides, I didn't post in here to talk to you in the first place.

Sorry, bud, I just don't find you all that intellectually stimulating. I think the giant axe you are constantly grinding is the problem, it's too obvious and distracting.

Anyway, have fun with it... and remember, the best way to get me out of your thread is to just stop responding to me. Trust me, it won't take long for me to forget about this thread if you do.

 

[stevecanuck]

It's the same thing: there are only some weird fringe groups in every religion that read or take anything in their holy books very seriously.

I'm willing to talk to you about this as much as you want to.

Let's start with this. Muslims are expected to believe that the Qur'an was revealed to Mohamed by Allah verbatim (via Gabriel). I don't see how a devote Muslim is supposed to take a word-for-word sermon from their god any way other than seriously. Those people are the opposite of members weird fringe groups. They are trying to strictly obey the very words of Allah. Take Hamas' 1988 founding charter for example. It says that Mohamed is their example, and that the Qur'an is their constitution. Therefore, they and their countless supporters very much take the Qur'an seriously.

Does that sound reasonable so far?

 

[ataraxia]

I'm willing to talk to you about this as much as you want to.

Let's start with this. Muslims are expected to believe that the Qur'an was revealed to Mohamed by Allah verbatim (via Gabriel). I don't see how a devote Muslim is supposed to take a word-for-word sermon from their god any way other than seriously.

Christian supposedly think that the Bible is the word of God and to be taken very seriously. But as you pointed out, only the Christadelphians seem to take it that seriously. Everyone else just cherry picks stuff they like and ignore the rest.

Those people are the opposite of members weird fringe groups. They are trying to strictly obey the very words of Allah. Take Hamas' 1988 founding charter for example. It says that Mohamed is their example, and that the Qur'an is their constitution. Therefore, they and their countless supporters very much take the Qur'an seriously.

Does that sound reasonable so far?

So? The KKK appeals to the Bible.

 

[stevecanuck]

Christian supposedly think that the Bible is the word of God and to be taken very seriously. But as you pointed out, only the Christadelphians seem to take it that seriously. Everyone else just cherry picks stuff they like and ignore the rest.


So? The KKK appeals to the Bible.

Got it.

I took the trouble of addressing your claim about "weird fringe groups", and you completely blew off my response.

See ya in the next thread.

 

[ataraxia]

Got it.

I took the trouble of addressing your claim about "weird fringe groups", and you completely blew off my response.

See ya in the next thread.

Not sure why Hamas is any less fringe in the Islamic world than the KKK in the Christian world.

 

[stevecanuck]

Not sure why Hamas is any less fringe in the Islamic world than the KKK in the Christian world.

Maybe the fact that NO Muslim state has EVER tried to rein them in is an indication that the greater Muslim world has no problem with them - that they're considered mainstream rather than fringe. You know the countries I mean - like the eight who attacked Israel in 1948. Those countries.

Btw, have you forgotten that Gazans voted Hamas into power?

 

[ataraxia]

Maybe the fact that NO Muslim state has EVER tried to rein them in is an indication that the greater Muslim world has no problem with them - that they're considered mainstream rather than fringe. You know the countries I mean - like the eight who attacked Israel in 1948. Those countries.

Huh? What do you think that was an act of terrorism and not war?

Btw, have you forgotten that Gazans voted Hamas into power?

So? Americans voted Nixon into power.

 

[stevecanuck]

Huh? What do you think that's an act of terrorism and not war?


So? Americans voted Nixon into power.

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Sorry, but you just broke my deflecto-meter. You're going to have to prattle on by yourself.

 

[ataraxia]

Deflecting? I thought we were comparing. That’s what you asked for; and now comparing is deflecting?

Anyway- carry on.

 

[stevecanuck]

Deflecting? I thought we were comparing. That’s what you asked for; and now comparing is deflecting?

Anyway- carry on.

Yes, deflecting. I've now written two posts in direct response to your posts, and you've blown both of them off.

 

[bomberfox]

And the stuff in the Torah? You don't mind that?

Create a thread about it.