The purpose of a gun

[RF667799]

Transport you around the circle

I told you how it would sound. Now tell us what the Wisconsin Parade Killer was transporting. The bodies of any of his unfortunate victims that happened to be stuck under his car?

 

[Nickyjo]

Now now...you're already on record as saying you give short shrift to protected rights on account of personal emotions.

Perhaps the dissenting hold a position as irrational.

So I am not allied to believe and opine that the Second Amendment is about militias, and as I have stated, is a poorly written sentence, one which is interpreted as to the politics of the interpreter.

 

[CLAX1911]

So risk the lives of many for the pleasure of a few

Risk? What risk? Do you know what your chances are of being shot?

 

[RF667799]

So I am not allied to believe and opine that the Second Amendment is about militias, and as I have stated, is a poorly written sentence, one which is interpreted as to the politics of the interpreter.

Nobody said you are not "allied". I merely referred to your admission that you give short shrift to rights and liberties when they conflict with your emotions.

 

[Nickyjo]

Nobody said you are not "allied". I merely referred to your admission that you give short shrift to rights and liberties when they conflict with your emotions.

Sorry for the mis-type. I meant “allowed” not “allied.” And yes as one who was nearly shot by cops who assumed I was armed as are so many, as one with a friend who has been paralyzed for years, my emotions, common sense, the example of other successful societies, and recent events in Maine make me believe the right to own arms should be infringed more than it currently is.

 

[RF667799]

Sorry for the mis-type. I meant “allowed” not “allied.” And yes as one who was nearly shot by cops who assumed I was armed as are so many, as one with a friend who has been paralyzed for years, my emotions, common sense, the example of other successful societies, and recent events in Maine make me believe the right to own arms should be infringed more than it currently is.

I've never seen you propose much to do with common sense, or support the relevance of other societies. The appeal to your own emotions is a common theme in your posts, though. And you admitted that your non-support of rights- at least in the case of gun rights- is informed by your emotions.

I don't know why you expect other people to give up their rights because you are sad about something. That seems exceptionally selfish.

 

[CLAX1911]

Sorry for the mis-type. I meant “allowed” not “allied.” And yes as one who was nearly shot by cops who assumed I was armed as are so many, as one with a friend who has been paralyzed for years, my emotions, common sense, the example of other successful societies, and recent events in Maine make me believe the right to own arms should be infringed more than it currently is.

What does nearly shot mean? Do they fire a gun at you and miss? Or did they point it at you while giving you an order because that the latter is not nearly shot it's not even close to being shot.

Why do you think you can control unlawful people by controlling waffle people but since does that make?

 

[VanceMack]

No it doesn’t. Can you read charts?

In 2019, 364 people were killed by people using rifles of all types including ARs. 600 people were killed by people using their hands and feet as weapons.
In 2018, 305 people were killed by people using rifles of all types including ARs. 712 were killed by people using their hands and feet as weapons.

How much more ignorant do you want to make yourself look?

 

[rickc]

Those who believe that a gun only has one purpose and should be removed from all civilian hands know very little about guns. Probably have never shot one or been exposed to one.
Natural fear of the unknown
They are just wrong and don't know it.

 

[RF667799]

Those who believe that a gun only has one purpose and should be removed from all civilian hands know very little about guns. Probably have never shot one or been exposed to one.
Natural fear of the unknown
They are just wrong and don't know it.

Those who think purpose isn't determined by the user have probably never seen someone take a brand new "grocery getter", and turn it into a dedicated dragster.

 

[Citizen]

A pen can be used for purposes that are perhaps outside your perception.

But what is it's purpose?

 

[Citizen]

I told you how it would sound. Now tell us what the Wisconsin Parade Killer was transporting. The bodies of any of his unfortunate victims that happened to be stuck under his car?

That was not the purpose it was designed for

 

[Citizen]

Risk? What risk? Do you know what your chances are of being shot?

I'm sure that the people in the bowling ally knew, but it doesn't matter now. They're dead

 

[Citizen]

In 2019, 364 people were killed by people using rifles of all types including ARs. 600 people were killed by people using their hands and feet as weapons.
In 2018, 305 people were killed by people using rifles of all types including ARs. 712 were killed by people using their hands and feet as weapons.

How much more ignorant do you want to make yourself look?

We are not talking about particular guns here. Read the chart or should I explain the chart you posted to you.

 

[Lursa]

That was not the purpose it was designed for

I asked you why the purpose mattered, in terms of ending harm, creating more restrictions, laws, oversight, etc...in order to make a practical real-life difference. I never saw you answer.

Will you please?

 

[rickc]

What a circular argument. I choose to keep my guns no matter what. I think there are many in America like me.

 

[Nickyjo]

I've never seen you propose much to do with common sense, or support the relevance of other societies. The appeal to your own emotions is a common theme in your posts, though. And you admitted that your non-support of rights- at least in the case of gun rights- is informed by your emotions.

I don't know why you expect other people to give up their rights because you are sad about something. That seems exceptionally selfish.

I don’t believe that universal background checks, TSA inspections, magazine limits, prohibition of fully automatic weapons, etc., take rights away from, any more than speed limits or controls on potentially dangerous drugs do.

 

[CLAX1911]

I'm sure that the people in the bowling ally knew, but it doesn't matter now. They're dead

Using the dead to excuse a shitty point? That's weak

 

[Rucker61]

So I am not allied to believe and opine that the Second Amendment is about militias, and as I have stated, is a poorly written sentence, one which is interpreted as to the politics of the interpreter.

All the way since 1857. Imagine. The collective viewpoint is relatively new.

 

[Rucker61]

I don’t believe that universal background checks, TSA inspections, magazine limits, prohibition of fully automatic weapons, etc., take rights away from, any more than speed limits or controls on potentially dangerous drugs do.

What you believe means nothing compared to what SCOTUS believes.

 

[Nickyjo]

All the way since 1857. Imagine. The collective viewpoint is relatively new.

How to explain all the gun controls that have existed.

 

[Nickyjo]

What you believe means nothing compared to what SCOTUS believes.

The SCOTUS believed in “separate but equal.” Things changed. Different presidents down the road, different justices appointed, and SURPRISE! — the Second Amendment means something different. Who knew? Politics ruled the decision, one which most non gun-obsessed, single issue voters disagree with.

 

[Rucker61]

How to explain all the gun controls that have existed.

Easy. The Second Amendment wasn't incorporated against the states until 2010. SCOTUS under Bruen is changing this.

 

[Rucker61]

The SCOTUS believed in “separate but equal.” Things changed. Different presidents down the road, different justices appointed, and SURPRISE! — the Second Amendment means something different. Who knew? Politics ruled the decision, one which most non gun-obsessed, single issue voters disagree with.

You have to live in the now. If and when something changes you'll have a point.

 

[CLAX1911]

How to explain all the gun controls that have existed.

unconstitutional laws. happens a lot