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The propaganda arm, also known as MSM has gotten a lot of things wrong. lets count them.

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Hypothetical said:
1. lafayette park
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-clear-lafayette-park-area-trump-hold-bible/story?id=78171712

2. Russian bounties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...as-apparently-fake-news-all-along/ar-BB1fGUwy
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-bounty-story-falls-apart-192123174.html

3. covid origins /wuhan lab - we've all heard about this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab-experts

4. vaccines by 2020 - he was correct
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-074712144.html

5. hunter Biden - is under investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html


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Five stories, you say? How many stories does the AP alone crank out per hour? :)
 
Hypothetical said:
1. lafayette park
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-clear-lafayette-park-area-trump-hold-bible/story?id=78171712

2. Russian bounties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...as-apparently-fake-news-all-along/ar-BB1fGUwy
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-bounty-story-falls-apart-192123174.html

3. covid origins /wuhan lab - we've all heard about this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab-experts

4. vaccines by 2020 - he was correct
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-074712144.html

5. hunter Biden - is under investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html


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What did they get wrong? Can you point to specific quotes that prove that were wrong?

(If you quote some pundit or twitter opinion, you already blew your argument)
 
Phys251 said:
Five stories, you say? How many stories does the AP alone crank out per hour? :)
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He’s insisting they got these things wrong. How did they get them wrong? Is it a case where they report what’s known at the time and then later info becomes available? Isn’t that what journalism is?

What’s funny about the trump vax stuff is if Trump had won re-election, we for sure wouldn’t have gotten access to the vaccine so quickly. He and Jared would be playing YOU BET YOUR LIFE with a rolodex of governors and a list of great locations for new Trump properties.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
He’s insisting they got these things wrong. How did they get them wrong? Is it a case where they report what’s known at the time and then later info becomes available? Isn’t that what journalism is?

What’s funny about the trump vax stuff is if Trump had won re-election, we for sure wouldn’t have gotten access to the vaccine so quickly. He and Jared would be playing YOU BET YOUR LIFE with a rolodex of governors and a list of great locations for new Trump properties.
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The trump-o-sphere has declared them to be wrong, and thus, they are wrong. Thus, all of the MSM is wrong. Only media 100% supportive of Dear Leader is right.

His "logic" starts and ends there.
 
Phys251 said:
The trump-o-sphere has declared them to be wrong, and thus, they are wrong. Thus, all of the MSM is wrong. Only media 100% supportive of Dear Leader is right.

His "logic" starts and ends there.
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Funny, I don’t hear any retractions on “15 cases going to zero” or “Xi has it under control”.
 
Hypothetical said:
1. lafayette park
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-clear-lafayette-park-area-trump-hold-bible/story?id=78171712

2. Russian bounties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...as-apparently-fake-news-all-along/ar-BB1fGUwy
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-bounty-story-falls-apart-192123174.html

3. covid origins /wuhan lab - we've all heard about this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab-experts

4. vaccines by 2020 - he was correct
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-074712144.html

5. hunter Biden - is under investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html


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I clicked on the first one just to see what it was all about. Seems that it was, indeed, a story that the MSM got wrong at first.

And who corrected it? Hmm... It was ABC News.

Is ABC News considered part of the mainstream media?
 
Aunt Antifa said:
Funny, I don’t hear any retractions on “15 cases going to zero” or “Xi has it under control”.
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Planks don't exist in their eyes. Only specks in ours. And only the specks count. /s
 
Phys251 said:
Planks don't exist in their eyes. Only specks in ours. And only the specks count. /s
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Rememer when Trump told us anything under 100k dead is a good job? LIE.
 
Trump attacking our troops.
The pee-pee tape.
No voter fraud. Hold tight, it's coming.
 
Acadia said:
Trump attacking our troops.
The pee-pee tape.
No voter fraud. Hold tight, it's coming.
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"“He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

I don't think you are qualified to discuss the truthfulness of anything.
 
Hypothetical said:
1. lafayette park
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-clear-lafayette-park-area-trump-hold-bible/story?id=78171712

2. Russian bounties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...as-apparently-fake-news-all-along/ar-BB1fGUwy
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-bounty-story-falls-apart-192123174.html

3. covid origins /wuhan lab - we've all heard about this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab-experts

4. vaccines by 2020 - he was correct
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-074712144.html

5. hunter Biden - is under investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html
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Well - let's see what you've got.

1. Lafayette Park - yeah, everyone was certainly willing to ascribe that purge as having come from Trump for a photo op. People were shooed away from in front of that church - and Trump and the press certainly weren't. Score +1

2. The press reported on the Russian bounty story because it was a legitimate story. Surely there's no evidence that the source - some poor detainee in Afghanistan - had any idea that their misinformation would be leveraged against Trump. If Trump had information to the contrary, he might have shared it. The fact is, given the reportage, what was Trump's excuse for not hammering Putin with it? He didn't know any more than the rest of us. If he had, he's never been shy about defending his actions before. Score -1

3. And we still don't what the truth on this issue is. Trump doesn't know any more than the rest of us. It's a push. Score 0

4. Trump was right. So what? Even a blind pig finds a truffle once in awhile. Give Trump a +1 if you insist. Score +1

5. So what in spades. The very first paragraph of the article states that Joe Biden isn't implicated in anything - and this dates to December of last year. Trump's mindless minions were desperate to publicize this just to bludgeon his political opponent with. Luckily for the country, it was an epic FAIL on a grand scale. Score -1

So let's tally, shall we? 1+1+0-1-1 equals ?? Score Zero !!
I guess you got nothing. Congratulations
 
MamboDervish said:
Well - let's see what you've got.

1. Lafayette Park - yeah, everyone was certainly willing to ascribe that purge as having come from Trump for a photo op. People were shooed away from in front of that church - and Trump and the press certainly weren't. +1

2. The press reported on the Russian bounty story because it was a legitimate story. Surely there's no evidence that the source - some poor detainee in Afghanistan - had any idea that their misinformation would be leveraged against Trump. If he had information to the contrary, he might have shared it. The fact is, given the reportage, what was Trump's excuse for not hammering Putin with it? He didn't know any more than the rest of us. If he had, he's never been shy about defending his actions before. -1

3. And we still don't what the truth on this issue is. It's a push - 0

4. Trump was right. So what? Even a blind pig finds a truffle once in awhile. Give Trump a +1 if you insist.

5. So what in spades. The very first paragraph of the article states that Joe Biden isn't implicated in anything - and this dates to December of last year. Trump's mindless minions were desperate to publicize this just to bludgeon his political opponent with. Luckily for the country, it was an epic FAIL on a grand scale. -1

So let's tally, shall we? 1+1+0-1-1 equals ?? Zero !!
I guess you got nothing. Congratulations
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The Russian bounty story was NEVER properly sources, and was never legitimate.

Otherwise, you're response is that you do not care that you were fed, and swallowed whole, a bunch of lies.
 
Acadia said:
Otherwise, you're response is that you do not care that you were fed, and swallowed whole, a bunch of lies.
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Assumes facts not in evidence. Not every story that breaks in the world is true - but when they're discovered to be false, that eventually comes out. Just as this has. As far as being fed lies, please explain the motive you see behind the MSM propagating this lie. Who was it meant to hurt? The story itself implicates Putin and Russia, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump!

AND you can thank the Biden administration for setting the record straight. THEY released the correction to this story!!
 
Faux watchers love to project.
 
Hypothetical said:
1. lafayette park
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-clear-lafayette-park-area-trump-hold-bible/story?id=78171712

2. Russian bounties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...as-apparently-fake-news-all-along/ar-BB1fGUwy
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-bounty-story-falls-apart-192123174.html

3. covid origins /wuhan lab - we've all heard about this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab-experts

4. vaccines by 2020 - he was correct
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-074712144.html

5. hunter Biden - is under investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html


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Wow!

The score, then, is MSM 5, Mr. Donald Trump 30,573.

No contest! I think we can declare a winner.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

Ref: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...isleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/
 
Aunt Antifa said:
What did they get wrong? Can you point to specific quotes that prove that were wrong?

(If you quote some pundit or twitter opinion, you already blew your argument)
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www.npr.org

Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

After U.S. Park Police and National Guard troops pushed demonstrators out of Lafayette Park, President Trump walked from the White House to St. John's Church where he posed for pictures with a Bible.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
www.msnbc.com

With heavy-handed tactics, Trump's church photo-op backfires

It was quite possibly the most ridiculous presidential photo-op in the history of presidential photo-ops.
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com

 
Hypothetical said:
1. lafayette park
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-clear-lafayette-park-area-trump-hold-bible/story?id=78171712

2. Russian bounties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...as-apparently-fake-news-all-along/ar-BB1fGUwy
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-bounty-story-falls-apart-192123174.html

3. covid origins /wuhan lab - we've all heard about this one.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab-experts

4. vaccines by 2020 - he was correct
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-074712144.html

5. hunter Biden - is under investigation
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html


anyone want to add more?
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You are wasting your time .

This is essentially a Compliance Gullibles site and their almost exclusive diet is the Fake News MSM .They have close to zero access to the real news and couldn't care less .

I once directed someone to Zero Hedge and they thought it was a right wing conspiracy site . rofl .

The same type who swallow NYT and WaPo and watch CNN or BBC over here . Just more obvious examples of extreme puppet status for the Shadow Government, but actually now shared by all of the big media outfits including the Agencies who have been corrupted for decades .

With few exceptions there are no investigative journalists on any MSM publication or channel .They simply regurgitate AP and/or Reuters hand- outs pre - edited by the Intelligence agencies .

P.S. That is why they toppled the high building in Gaza . It housed the Western Fake News Agency outfits .No mention of that by the MSM .
 
Monica33 said:
You are wasting your time .

This is essentially a Compliance Gullibles site and their almost exclusive diet is the Fake News MSM .They have close to zero access to the real news and couldn't care less .

I once directed someone to Zero Hedge and they thought it was a right wing conspiracy site . rofl .

The same type who swallow NYT and WaPo and watch CNN or BBC over here . Just more obvious examples of extreme puppet status for the Shadow Government, but actually now shared by all of the big media outfits including the Agencies who have been corrupted for decades .

With few exceptions there are no investigative journalists on any MSM publication or channel .They simply regurgitate AP and/or Reuters hand- outs pre - edited by the Intelligence agencies .

P.S. That is why they toppled the high building in Gaza . It housed the Western Fake News Agency outfits .No mention of that by the MSM .
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Proffered by the Intel agencies.
 
Phys251 said:
Five stories, you say? How many stories does the AP alone crank out per hour? :)
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no, 5 major propaganda pieces thrown out by almost every main stream media source as damning "evidence" of a corrupt Trump administration.

and now as expected, we find out it was all BS. that kind of manipulation and non fact based crap by the MSM is dangerous. Joseph Goebbels WISHES he had had as much complicity in his propaganda.
 
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Torus34 said:
Wow!

The score, then, is MSM 5, Mr. Donald Trump 30,573.

No contest! I think we can declare a winner.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

Ref: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...isleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/
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correction see post #12 (a well written post)
Its MSM 2, Trump over 30K but honestly the big outrage the photo op was having a guy who doesnt go to church standing in front of one with a bible to try and convince people he is religious
So at best Id go 1/2 point on that
 
Aunt Antifa said:
What did they get wrong? Can you point to specific quotes that prove that were wrong?

(If you quote some pundit or twitter opinion, you already blew your argument)
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LOL surely you jest? if you can;'t discern exactly what the issue was from the retractions and reports involved in the links i posted... you must be incapable or unwilling to examine the truth.
 
Hypothetical said:
no, 5 major propaganda pieces thrown out by almost every main stream media source as damning "evidence" of a corrupt Trump administration.

and now as expected, we find out it was all BS. that kind of manipulation and non fact based crap byt he MSM is dangerous. Joseph Goebbels WISHES he had had as much complicity in his propaganda.
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Goebbels got nuthin' on the Left-wing media aparratchik.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
He’s insisting they got these things wrong. How did they get them wrong? Is it a case where they report what’s known at the time and then later info becomes available? Isn’t that what journalism is?
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no , absolutely not. I know some of you are too young to remember, but JOURNALISM is investigating until you get the actual facts and then investigating some more to corroborate them , and until then keep your damn mouth shut in the interest of truth.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I clicked on the first one just to see what it was all about. Seems that it was, indeed, a story that the MSM got wrong at first.

And who corrected it? Hmm... It was ABC News.

Is ABC News considered part of the mainstream media?
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I purposefully tried to use "leftist approved" links to how just how bad this is.
 
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