Ah my friend, I never was one to back down when proven wrong in a debate, or discussion.
You have proven me wrong I turn over my king to you , for indeed I was wrong.
I make no excuses just I was wrong.eace
Speaking for myself as an older person, I apologise for leaving the next generation this crap.
I grew up in the 60's I was with the people and College students who wanted change we got it but we didn't keep it.
Student is a ranking, like sage, based on how many posts you have posted and it's just above user. I grew up in the '50s and remember seeing Eisenhower's Farewell Address on TV, when he gave it.
We're going to have to rely on the next generation, because we live in a generation of idiots. It wasn't that way in the '50s, '60s or '70s. The Modern Conservative Movement has screwed this country up with misinformation. I believe people will eventually come to realize that and turn on them.
Each era has it's own set of circumstances; some unique, most not. What has never changed from generation to generation is youthful assertion of knowing more than the preceding generation and the conviction that the current crop of adults somehow screwed things up.
I doubt it will ever change. It's just part of the process.
Why do you people keep saying I'm young and I'm probably older than both of you? You would have to graduate in '67 to come close.
No, you were not entirely wrong my friend, McCain has flip flopped back and forth much on environmental protection its hard to figure out where he's actually at.
Didn't get to keep it?
Civil rights are still here. Racism is maybe 1/10 of what it was before the protests and marches of the '60s, and is now something to hide under the rug, and not bring out in full display. We finally did get out of Vietnam. It took a while, but we're still out and Vietnam is peaceful and non Communist.
Each decade since has brought its own challenges, but we should be proud of the accomplishments of the '60s. Society is much different than it was in 1960.
Simply stating a claim is not proving a claim. You have provided no evidence to back up that claim. It's like saying that because my house has a mile of pipes, it must be inefficient. I should just have one faucet in the house where all of my water goes to so that I will have less pipe. It's an absurd argument because it doesn't make any claims about the efficiency of the set-up.
Lots of things are all marketed the same way. This is not the definition of a monopoly.
By the way, there are lots of "exemptions." OPEC sells us less than half of our foreign oil.
Guess what? Different things are called different, because they're different.
Show me another time in history when you can look back on Think Tanks spending over 55 years to blow smoke up people's behinds! Show me another time in history where information was so easily available and so much misinformation was circulated!
People will eventually figure it out and they're not going to be very happy with those, who have conned them.
Right, what's the point of preparing for a crisis before it arrives???
Long chain - did anyone already cover the value of the dollar? For example, in regard to a world commodity, when the US dollar is weak (compared to what it was and compared to other currency) the price of gas goes up substantially in the US.
It wasn't conservatives that had to change what they call themselves.
Yup - you righties are much better at demonizing the opposition that we are.
I'm perfect happy with my explaination that adding layers of costs that do not add value is inefficient. It's pretty basic economics. I showed where it would put another manufacturer out of business if not for the fact that oil has no (of much account) competition.
Sure, and the rest is still sold the same way. Even the oil we produce is sold this way.
You didn't show that. In fact, my contention about the toaster maker not caring where it gets sold was uncontested.
It was and you did not address it. It is too bad that you would rather discuss things like this as opposed to actually addressing what has been said.
Ahthough the 60's brought a lot of changes.
Changes started befor that, back before the 60's child labor laws were hard fought as was womens rights as well as employees rights, the Coal miners strike because the mines were unsafe.
Windfall taxes were introduced to keep competition between corporations strong
McCarthism communist blacklisting were proven unfair
These changes happened because actors and people got tired of being pushed they started to push back.eace
Then why did you cut off the first part of my quote in my last post and not respond to it?
Because if you are going to accuse me of not responding to you even though I clearly did, there is no use in further discussion.
You didn't adequately respond to the criticism as you seem to think you have.
Besides, I presented you with a different argument now. I'm imploring you not to let pride get in the way. Pride has no place in an academic discussion.
Originally Posted by presluc
Ahthough the 60's brought a lot of changes.
Changes started befor that, back before the 60's child labor laws were hard fought as was womens rights as well as employees rights, the Coal miners strike because the mines were unsafe.
Windfall taxes were introduced to keep competition between corporations strong
McCarthism communist blacklisting were proven unfair
These changes happened because actors and people got tired of being pushed they started to push back.
Yes, we did, and a darned good thing, too. McCarthyism. I'd forgotten about that abuse of liberty. Good riddance.
Then address what I said and why I was wrong. Don't tell me I didn't address it.
Sorry, we haven't addressed the first one yet. Or rather, you haven't.
I told you what was wrong with it. The toaster maker doesn't care who he sells to, and the distributor is better at marketing than the toaster maker is.
Long chain - did anyone already cover the value of the dollar? For example, in regard to a world commodity, when the US dollar is weak (compared to what it was and compared to other currency) the price of gas goes up substantially in the US.
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