Iron_Merc
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In contemplation of modern thought and theory, Hitler is often seen as a very evil character. From the attempted extermination of the entire Jewish race to the rise of eugenics and a pure Aryan race, Hitler was a driven man who inspired an entire nation - a nation that could have easily dominated the entire world had the United States not stepped in at the 11th hour.
My question is very simple. What was Hitler and the Nazi regime all about? What drove Hitler to commit such in-human acts? Such acts of barbarity? Can we even classify them using the modern spectrum of left right politics? Or for that matter, the modern interpretation of conserverative vs liberal?
So, to keep this simple lets just get some information on the table before we drill down with specifics. Please present your own personal theory as to the politics, theology and ideology of Hitler, and then your theory as to the ideology and philosophy and economy of the nation state of Germany (at that time). Back up your suppositions with facts if at all possible.
Looking forward to a great debate!
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Why? Are you trying to get your homework done?
My guess is It's another of those interminable attempts to key on the word 'socialist' in NSDAP and drop Hitler and the Nazis in the lap of the left. I've even seen one of the lunatic-fringe rightists say the Nazis were liberals.
My guess is It's another of those interminable attempts to key on the word 'socialist' in NSDAP and drop Hitler and the Nazis in the lap of the left. I've even seen one of the lunatic-fringe rightists say the Nazis were liberals.
The Russians might disagree on that.In contemplation of modern thought and theory, Hitler is often seen as a very evil character. From the attempted extermination of the entire Jewish race to the rise of eugenics and a pure Aryan race, Hitler was a driven man who inspired an entire nation - a nation that could have easily dominated the entire world had the United States not stepped in at the 11th hour.
My question is very simple. What was Hitler and the Nazi regime all about? What drove Hitler to commit such in-human acts? Such acts of barbarity? Can we even classify them using the modern spectrum of left right politics? Or for that matter, the modern interpretation of conserverative vs liberal?
So, to keep this simple lets just get some information on the table before we drill down with specifics. Please present your own personal theory as to the politics, theology and ideology of Hitler, and then your theory as to the ideology and philosophy and economy of the nation state of Germany (at that time). Back up your suppositions with facts if at all possible.
Looking forward to a great debate!
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The Russians might disagree on that.
Theory? There's no need to theorize, the historical facts were in decades ago. All you're trying to do now is revise and distort the historical facts to suit your partisan ideology.
Few Americans know or understand that Russia had begun to turn back Hitlers armies before Pearl Harbor....
Few Americans know or understand that Russia had begun to turn back Hitlers armies before Pearl Harbor....
I don't think the war could've been won without them.
But they were just as brutal to Jews as Hitler was. See: pogrom.
...and the Russians were just as brutal to the Germans as the Germans had been to them; hard to call”uncle” after the way the Germans moved into Russia in June 1941.
Hitler’s hubris and lack of attention to fairly recent history doomed the Nazis. Didn’t workout for the French a little more than a century before....
I don't think the war could've been won without them.
But they were just as brutal to Jews as Hitler was. See: pogrom.
IMO, the “turn” didn’t begin until late 1942. Up until that time things were still moving east.
Moscow wasn’t decided until mid 1942.
Pogroms were pre-Revolution.
Jews were over represented in early Soviet years.
Later most under Stalin prominent Jews were purged along with intellectuals (of which many were Jews)....
Post Stalin Jews and Christians were equally oppressed.
If Stalin was purging Jews then obviously the pogroms continued well after WW2.
What do you mean the Jews were "over represented?"
In contemplation of modern thought and theory, Hitler is often seen as a very evil character. From the attempted extermination of the entire Jewish race to the rise of eugenics and a pure Aryan race, Hitler was a driven man who inspired an entire nation - a nation that could have easily dominated the entire world had the United States not stepped in at the 11th hour.
My question is very simple. What was Hitler and the Nazi regime all about? What drove Hitler to commit such in-human acts? Such acts of barbarity? Can we even classify them using the modern spectrum of left right politics? Or for that matter, the modern interpretation of conserverative vs liberal?
So, to keep this simple lets just get some information on the table before we drill down with specifics. Please present your own personal theory as to the politics, theology and ideology of Hitler, and then your theory as to the ideology and philosophy and economy of the nation state of Germany (at that time). Back up your suppositions with facts if at all possible.
Looking forward to a great debate!
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Why? Are you trying to get your homework done?
LOL good one.
I've only been debating online for two days, cut me a little slack guys!
My guess is It's another of those interminable attempts to key on the word 'socialist' in NSDAP and drop Hitler and the Nazis in the lap of the left. I've even seen one of the lunatic-fringe rightists say the Nazis were liberals.
How long have you been debating offline before you decided to do it online, if at all ?
LOL good one.
I've only been debating online for two days, cut me a little slack guys!
Stalin was an equal opportunity purge monster... While the pogroms targeted Jews.
There were X percent of Jews in total popution... More than X percent of Jews in early Bolshevik/Soviet government.
The early head of KGB, and Trotsky, etc.
...and the Russians were just as brutal to the Germans as the Germans had been to them; hard to call”uncle” after the way the Germans moved into Russia in June 1941.
Hitler’s hubris and lack of attention to fairly recent history doomed the Nazis. Didn’t workout for the French a little more than a century before....
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