The Perfect Game

[bomberfox]

I’ll go with the Cold War. It was very scary because it could have erupted into a full-blown conventional war or even led to nuclear annihilation, but it didn’t.

It was a war that was won by the good guys with a relatively low number of casualties. The good guys lost a few lives and the bad guys lost a few lives as a result of violence committed against one another. But you have to admit, compared to other wars it was a low-cost war in terms of lives. Now, if you want to count the millions of their own people the bad guys killed through internment, executions, and planned famine, we can debate that. But in terms of deaths caused by the belligerents, it was quite successful.

And when it ended, billions of people subjected to the tyranny of central planned economies were liberated. And the greatest economic migration in the history of the world occurred as over one billion people were lifted out of poverty. And hundreds of millions of people were able to experience political freedom on a scale never seen before.

Actually many countries did not experience political freedom as a result of our meddling. Capitalists and middle class yuppies maybe but the rest ended up as floating bodies or raped by soldiers with our teaching and backing. That was our biggest failing of the cold war.

Secondly the amount killed by communists were purposely exaggerated by Robert Conquest to include children not yet born and nazis killed on the battlefield. Not even his co writers take him seriously.

Cambodia was liberated by the Viet Minh while the US just bombed them like target practice bcuz Kissinger just happened to point a finger on a map.

 

[Cordelier]

Yeah some intervention would have been justified.

Coming on the heels of Somalia, it would have gone over like a lead balloon in Congress.

 

[bomberfox]

Coming on the heels of Somalia, it would have gone over like a lead balloon in Congress.

Then again i think we should have supported the ANC instead of staying quiet. Violent resistance to apartheid was 100% justified.

 

[Cordelier]

Then again i think we should have supported the ANC instead of staying quiet. Violent resistance to apartheid was 100% justified.

We weren't quiet - we labelled them terrorists.

 

[bomberfox]

We weren't quiet - we labelled them terrorists.

We labeled the wrong people .

 

[Cordelier]

We labeled the wrong people .

Yep. We were definitely on the wrong side of history there.

 

[bomberfox]

Interestingly we had someone who was born from tutsi and hutu parents come speak at a DSA meeting.

 

[B Cool]

Absolutely not. I’ll admit it’s thinking outside the box. But the carnage avoided and the number of people liberated makes it an outstanding candidate.

You're an outstanding sociopath for justifying Capitalism's biggest genocide to date: The War on Terror. Compare the number of people who died to the people "liberated" (all zero of them). Lunacy. But you're insanity isn't special. It's to be expected of the brainwashed masses in this failing empire.

 

[B Cool]

The American most successful

Keep watching.

 

[B Cool]

Doesn't matter what you think of the ROK government. The North invaded. The US (under the auspices of the UN and with our allies) acted to drive the invaders out of South Korea. And succeeded.

Yeah, the US always tries its best. While Russia and China gave up on principles a long time ago. So sayeth I, the American ever so objective in my conquest for knowledge. Who cares that the outcome is always balkanization and forever wars? The intent is hugs and kisses for the minorities of the world.

 

[Bighorn66]

Actually many countries did not experience political freedom as a result of our meddling. Capitalists and middle class yuppies maybe but the rest ended up as floating bodies or raped by soldiers with our teaching and backing. That was our biggest failing of the cold war.

The World Bank reports that over 1 billion people have been lifted out of poverty since 1990. That’s a lot of yuppies.

Secondly the amount killed by communists were purposely exaggerated by Robert Conquest to include children not yet born and nazis killed on the battlefield. Not even his co writers take him seriously.

There are plenty of respected researchers who have estimated the number of deaths attributable to communism. Their estimates range from 20 million to close to 100 million. And yes, place me in the camp counting the deaths in which government incompetence and malicious intent led to widespread famine.

 

[Bighorn66]

You're an outstanding sociopath for justifying Capitalism's biggest genocide to date: The War on Terror. Compare the number of people who died to the people "liberated" (all zero of them). Lunacy. But you're insanity isn't special. It's to be expected of the brainwashed masses in this failing empire.

I’m sorry but that is not a coherent post. I really don’t understand what you are trying to say. I made no reference to the war on terror. Perhaps you are simply confused.

 

[B Cool]

I’m sorry but that is not a coherent post. I really don’t understand what you are trying to say. I made no reference to the war on terror. Perhaps you are simply confused.

Apologies. I confused your post with someone who submitted "The War on Terror" as justifiable. My answer's basically unchanged though. You're still 100% wrong. The Cold War was completely unnecessary. Russia and China (and even North Korea) wanted to be the US's ally. The US rejected them because they were Communist and basically rebuilt the Nazi empire instead. The Germans may have lost WWII but the Nazis won. Doesn't seem rational to me, but Western Europeans have an irrational view of Communism that's frankly childish and hateful. It's worth putting Nazis, cartel leaders, and Islamic radicals in power in order to stop central planning apparently. And it's super convenient for Western warmongers, because you don't have to negotiate with people with "evil" ideologies. Anyway don't write me back. I'm not interested in your propaganda. I've heard it my whole life. There's nothing new you can teach me unless it's that Right wingers can learn and grow. That would blow my mind.

 

[Yakshi]

Apologies. I confused your post with someone who submitted "The War on Terror" as justifiable. My answer's basically unchanged though. You're still 100% wrong. The Cold War was completely unnecessary. Russia and China (and even North Korea) wanted to be the US's ally. The US rejected them because they were Communist and basically rebuilt the Nazi empire instead. The Germans may have lost WWII but the Nazis won. Doesn't seem rational to me, but Western Europeans have an irrational view of Communism that's frankly childish and hateful. It's worth putting Nazis, cartel leaders, and Islamic radicals in power in order to stop central planning apparently. And it's super convenient for Western warmongers, because you don't have to negotiate with people with "evil" ideologies. Anyway don't write me back. I'm not interested in your propaganda. I've heard it my whole life. There's nothing new you can teach me unless it's that Right wingers can learn and grow. That would blow my mind.

Thank you for another insane post.

And stop apologizing for making them. They're entertaining.