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The only reason you need to vote for Biden

Bullseye said:
Don't put words in my mouth or my posts.
If Trump's response is so dysfunctional why have Democratic governors of several states praised and thanked him for his actions?
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Why America is still failing on coronavirus testing

To end social distancing, we need mass testing. America is not there yet.

The state of coronavirus testing in America means that an end to social distancing is likely a long way off.

Two and a half months after the first reported coronavirus case in the US, America still doesn’t have the capacity that it needs to track all cases — a prerequisite for ending social distancing, according to a range of public health experts, health care providers, and private labs.

More testing is a cornerstone of every plan that calls for ending the social distancing measures that have shut down huge swaths of the economy and confined many Americans to their homes. The idea, as outlined in plans from the left-leaning Center for American Progress (CAP) and the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute (AEI), is that widespread testing will let public health officials detect and subsequently contain any future outbreaks before everything has to be locked down.

As Jeffrey Martin, an epidemiologist at the University of California San Francisco, put it, “The only way that a society can function is if the brushfires are identified and put out” — before they turn into a wildfire.

There have been some recent improvements in testing capacity, with the reported number of daily tests increasing by tens of thousands in the past two weeks. But experts say the US is still very far from where it needs to be.

“All of the talking points about how we have made massive progress has let everybody say that okay, this problem has been solved,” Ashish Jha, the faculty director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told me. “But it hasn’t.”
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Coronavirus testing: Why America is still failing - Vox

It's been three months since the start of the pandemic and you want to believe that the vaccination rollout will go better. That's magical thinking.
 
Cardinal said:
It's been three months since the pandemic started here. How's nationwide testing going?
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Last I saw we're were approaching or at 6,000.000.
 
Bullseye said:
Last I saw we're were approaching or at 6,000.000.
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Yes, three months later. And that's one third the amount of testing that needs to be done before we can reopen.

An average of 146,000 people per day have been tested for the coronavirus nationally so far this month, according to the COVID Tracking Project, which on Friday reported 3.6 million total tests across the country. To reopen the United States by mid-May, the number of tests performed every day should be 500,000 to 700,000, according to the Harvard estimates, which is a daily minimum of about 152 tests per 100,000 people.
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Coronavirus Testing Needs to Triple Before the U.S. Can Reopen, Experts Say - The New York Times

Yet you think that nationwide vaccination will be orderly and timely. That's magical thinking.
 
Cardinal said:
Yes, three months later. And that's one third the amount of testing that needs to be done before we can reopen.
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So, you bitch about fast tracking vaccines but want testing to be fast tracked? That about cover it.


Cardinal said:
Coronavirus Testing Needs to Triple Before the U.S. Can Reopen, Experts Say - The New York Times

Yet you think that nationwide vaccination will be orderly and timely. That's magical thinking.
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I think we've been climbing a steep learning curve.
 
Bullseye said:
So, you bitch about fast tracking vaccines but want testing to be fast tracked? That about cover it.


I think we've been climbing a steep learning curve.
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Here's Pence making excuses for why we haven't reached our testing goals.

Pence Explains the Failure to Meet Testing Goals in a Supremely Unhelpful Way – Mother Jones

Now replace Pence making excuses for why we haven't reached our testing goals with Pence making excuses for why the vaccination rollout isn't working.

Also, replace Trump saying that the state of the outbreak in the US isn't his fault with Trump saying the failure to vaccinate the public isn't his fault.

That's what will happen.
 
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Bullseye said:
Had Trump even MENTIONED the election? All I've seen is lefties blathering election slogans, anti-Trump mantras and "Biden isn't THAT stupid" denials.
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I'm sure "that is all you've seen". You're not going to see anything like that on Faux or hear it on Lush or read it on Blightbart or MAGApill.
 
Irwin Corey said:
No, no it's not. It's a matter of fact. <-period

Former V.P. Joe Biden can't help but be a better President than Donnie Me-Me-Me.
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Way to set the bar high.
 
Irwin Corey said:
I'm sure "that is all you've seen". You're not going to see anything like that on Faux or hear it on Lush or read it on Blightbart or MAGApill.
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I never refer to any of those sources.
 
Cardinal said:
The list of reasons for kicking Trump out of office would fill six pages, but there's only one reason you need.

The response to the pandemic has been defined by chaos as a result of the White House's incompetence, malevolence and negligence. Slashing the funding of nearly every medical institution and hamstringing their management hasn't helped.

Because of this, the plan for controlling the outbreak and re-opening the economy has been incoherent and unorganized, and as a result nobody has any idea for when such a thing could feasibly happen.

But there's something we're all assuming will happen anyway, which is that roughly a year from now, the cavalry will come riding in, we'll all get vaccinated and life will return to normal. This will not happen. We're assuming that regardless of the incompetence we see now, national vaccination as coordinated by the Federal government will be competent and organized. Believing this requires ignoring everything you see happening right now.

If the preparation for the outbreak and the response to it once it reached our shores were marked by chaos, then so too will the rollout of the vaccine. After the rest of the planet has been fully vaccinated, our vaccines, wherever they come from, will be lost after the CDC, slashed of any remaining competent staff, sends the shipment to a closed-down 7/11 in Donnelly, Idaho.

The White House may (or may not) order more vaccines, and maybe they won't even lose them this time. But clueless about how to distribute them, they won't reach the states for weeks or even months. Half a year after that, perhaps 1/8th of the country will be vaccinated.

Biden will restaff the CDC and appoint a competent and organized pandemic response team, precisely as Obama did during H1N1 and Ebola. Trump will not.

If you want to be vaccinated next June, vote for Biden. If you don't want to be vaccinated, vote for Trump.
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I totally agree. Biden has been around for 30 years or more, unlike the novice, Trump, a creature of television. Biden knows enough to do the right thing when it comes to facing the issues and let his image take care of itself.

Trump doesn't think like that. Trump thinks he needs to help his image along every single day with television appearances, controversial decisions, mind numbing statements, and he brings his cheerleaders to help him. He often makes himself look silly by talking about matters he knows nothing about.

This accounts for the reason why Trump's fans largely avoid him. Want proof? Look at the threads that interest Trump's fan base. None concern what Trump is doing, saying, and tweeting. There are about Democrats, Joe Biden's sex life, and three year old far right conspiracies.

Trump's supporters should evaluate all this. Perhaps it is time to reexamine their political position. They should ask themselves a simple question.

Why am I supporting a man I prefer not to talk about?
 
Cardinal said:
It's three months into the pandemic and nationwide testing is a fantasy. To this day not even our Senate can be tested. Yet you want to believe that under Trump a nationwide vaccination rollout will be timely and orderly. That is magical thinking.
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Now you are a science denier. It figures that you only accept science when it is politically convenient. Unlike two months ago, we now know that a substantial portion of the infected are never even symptomatic. Mortality rate has plummeted as we discover the true penetration of the disease, in spite of historic and draconian measures.

Science is saying that it is past the time we should have taken steps like 19 states did on Friday. Why aren't you?
 
Jay59 said:
Now you are a science denier. It figures that you only accept science when it is politically convenient. Unlike two months ago, we now know that a substantial portion of the infected are never even symptomatic. Mortality rate has plummeted as we discover the true penetration of the disease, in spite of historic and draconian measures.

Science is saying that it is past the time we should have taken steps like 19 states did on Friday. Why aren't you?
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Nothing you said had anything to do with my post.
 
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