The newest voter suppression tactic by the GOP and Trump!!

[jamesbyoung]

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia


The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.

The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome. As of February 2020 , it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. Together, they have 196 electoral votes, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 73% of the 270 votes needed.

 

[jamesbyoung]

Just try winning a goddamn election FAIRLY for a change, instead of whining every two years "It's not fair, it's not fair".

Maybe if you offered platforms people want and addressed the needs of common people and families, like the Democratic Party USED TO, you'd get somewhere.

Have the GOP stop cheating.

 

[Condor060]

You are lying, Condor060. If you keep acting like a GOP Russian bot, I will buy bye.

Whatever that means

You were explained how the rules work for the NPV, the EC, and SCOTUS, and I don't care if you like them or not.

I was explained huh. So glad you explained me.

But you are going to be made to live by them.

Uh, we already do. Your ideas aren't rules, they are just leftist lunacy. Sorry, they don't count.

 

[Condor060]

Dementia? You mean Trump, of course. Biden will beat him like a drum.

Biden can't even spell drum. He's too busy stopping those 150 million from dying of gun shots, having kids rub the hair on his legs, and getting jobs for those 720 million women while he's running as the Democrat candidate for the Senate. :lamo

 

[jamesbyoung]

Whatever that means I was explained huh. So glad you explained me. Uh, we already do. Your ideas aren't rules, they are just leftist lunacy. Sorry, they don't count.

Yup, after the next election, the GOP will not be in charge. Ever again. Pelosi right now is applying the whip to McConnell. That is sweet.

 

[Condor060]

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia


The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.

The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome. As of February 2020 , it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. Together, they have 196 electoral votes, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 73% of the 270 votes needed.

I couldn’t help but snicker when I saw the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill that would award the state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the nationwide popular vote. In other words, it doesn’t really matter what Virginia voters want. If they’re out of step with the rest of the country’s majority, then their votes are canceled.

I will tell you why conservatives will cheer when every blue state jumps into the compact. First of all its only in states that only vote Democrat anyway. The last time any of those 15 states voted Republican was 2004.

Now heres the funny part. If a Republican wins the popular vote, Then all those 15 blue states would have to give their electoral votes to the Republican, on top of the red states the Republican carried. Not only does the Republican win the White House, but the Electoral College looks like a landslide! States such as California, New York, and Illinois would be forced by their own laws to cast their electoral college votes to the Republican, no matter how much the Democratic nominee carried their state by.

Then you would see some real whining.

 

[jamesbyoung]

I couldn’t help but snicker when I saw the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill that would award the state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the nationwide popular vote. In other words, it doesn’t really matter what Virginia voters want. If they’re out of step with the rest of the country’s majority, then their votes are canceled.

I will tell you why conservatives will cheer when every blue state jumps into the compact. First of all its only in states that only vote Democrat anyway. The last time any of those 15 states voted Republican was 2004.

Now heres the funny part. If a Republican wins the popular vote, Then all those 15 blue states would have to give their electoral votes to the Republican, on top of the red states the Republican carried. Not only does the Republican win the White House, but the Electoral College looks like a landslide! States such as California, New York, and Illinois would be forced by their own laws to cast their electoral college votes to the Republican, no matter how much the Democratic nominee carried their state by.

Then you would see some real whining.

The point is: can a Republican win the popular vote? Check back to 1992 and tell us how many times the Republican has won the majority popular vote.

 

[Condor060]

Yup, after the next election, the GOP will not be in charge. Ever again. Pelosi right now is applying the whip to McConnell. That is sweet.

Seems we hear this every election. You think half the country will just step aside huh.

Didn't we see how Pelosi was applying that whip to McConnell during the impeachment trial? How did that work out for ya?

 

[Condor060]

The point is: can a Republican win the popular vote? Check back to 1992 and tell us how many times the Republican has won the majority popular vote.

It doesn't matter. The only party this puts at risk is Democrats. They are obviously just too dumb to know better.

 

[Far right dem]

I couldn’t help but snicker when I saw the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill that would award the state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the nationwide popular vote. In other words, it doesn’t really matter what Virginia voters want. If they’re out of step with the rest of the country’s majority, then their votes are canceled.

I will tell you why conservatives will cheer when every blue state jumps into the compact. First of all its only in states that only vote Democrat anyway. The last time any of those 15 states voted Republican was 2004.

Now heres the funny part. If a Republican wins the popular vote, Then all those 15 blue states would have to give their electoral votes to the Republican, on top of the red states the Republican carried. Not only does the Republican win the White House, but the Electoral College looks like a landslide! States such as California, New York, and Illinois would be forced by their own laws to cast their electoral college votes to the Republican, no matter how much the Democratic nominee carried their state by.

Then you would see some real whining.

I dont think you know how it works. it only goes in to effect once it reaches 270. until then it will keep being winner take all.

 

[Far right dem]

It doesn't matter. The only party this puts at risk is Democrats. They are obviously just too dumb to know better.

seems it would only hurt republicans. they have only won the popular vote once since 1992.

 

[Condor060]

seems it would only hurt republicans. they have only won the popular vote once since 1992.

How can it hurt Republicans when the states involved haven't voted for a Republican since 2004. Who cares

 

[Far right dem]

How can it hurt Republicans when the states involved haven't voted for a Republican since 2004. Who cares

because they have had a hard time winning the popular vote.

 

[Condor060]

because they have had a hard time winning the popular vote.

Which means what? Having 15 states who never vote for a Republican join together to not vote for a Republican? So what.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I think the OP means that the dimwits are getting antsy that the GOP are finally cleaning up illegal voting, that, of course translates to voter suppression, in their minds.


Tim-

"Monday’s decision came from the same three-judge court that invalidated North Carolina’s gerrymander of the state Legislature in September. Following that ruling, the plaintiffs—who are backed by Eric Holder’s National Democratic Redistricting Committee—filed suit against the state’s congressional map. The court found that this plan had the same infirmities as the legislative map: GOP legislators discriminated against Democratic voters, drawing maps behind closed doors with the aid of gerrymandering guru Thomas Hofeller. Their map “packed” most into a few deep-blue districts then “cracked” the rest throughout red districts. “I think electing Republicans is better than electing Democrats,” the legislator in charge of redistricting declared upon presenting the plan. “So I drew this map to help foster what I think is better for the country.”"

 

[Bullseye]

Have the GOP stop cheating.

No, irony here. :roll:

 

[Robertinfremont]

I couldn’t help but snicker when I saw the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill that would award the state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who wins the nationwide popular vote. In other words, it doesn’t really matter what Virginia voters want. If they’re out of step with the rest of the country’s majority, then their votes are canceled.

I will tell you why conservatives will cheer when every blue state jumps into the compact. First of all its only in states that only vote Democrat anyway. The last time any of those 15 states voted Republican was 2004.

Now heres the funny part. If a Republican wins the popular vote, Then all those 15 blue states would have to give their electoral votes to the Republican, on top of the red states the Republican carried. Not only does the Republican win the White House, but the Electoral College looks like a landslide! States such as California, New York, and Illinois would be forced by their own laws to cast their electoral college votes to the Republican, no matter how much the Democratic nominee carried their state by.

Then you would see some real whining.

Democrats must have thought of that and would only vote for Democrats. Popular vote be damned, this negates the votes of those compact states as I see it.

This could be challenged to the supreme court for their rendering. Somebody sure sees through this ruse.

 

[jamesbyoung]

It doesn't matter. The only party this puts at risk is Democrats. They are obviously just too dumb to know better.

Your statement is foolish. The GOP is in deep doo doo with the voters.

 

[jamesbyoung]

Democrats must have thought of that and would only vote for Democrats. Popular vote be damned, this negates the votes of those compact states as I see it.

This could be challenged to the supreme court for their rendering. Somebody sure sees through this ruse.

Oh, it can be challenged, and it will be rejected by SCOTUS.

 

[Condor060]

Your statement is foolish. The GOP is in deep doo doo with the voters.

According to who? You?

 

[Condor060]

Oh, it can be challenged, and it will be rejected by SCOTUS.

How would you know. You are now the guy who is all knowing on how the SCOTUS will rule? :lamo

 

[jamesbyoung]

According to who? You?

Your opinion matters not. Watch and learn.

 

[jamesbyoung]

How would you know. You are now the guy who is all knowing on how the SCOTUS will rule? :lamo

I taught Constitution and constitutional law for many, many years. SCOTUS is generally very predictable. This one does not like interfering with legislative actions if at all possible.

And adding seats to the Court will be the answer if it does not uphold NPV.

 

[Condor060]

Your opinion matters not. Watch and learn.

Why is it you never answer questions about your own post? You always deflect to something else when your post are called into question.

Must be that Liberal thing.

By the way, I did watch and learn. Did you?

Trump is your president unless your forgot. While I state the obvious history, Liberals always jump to what they know about future events and what is guaranteed.

We remember a few other things they knew about and were going to happen and were guaranteed

Trump will be removed from office for the Emoluments clause
Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high school serial rapist
Trump is a planted Russian asset
We will get Trumps tax returns
The Mueller report will be the end of Trump
Hillary has a 98% chance of winning the election

And the hundreds upon hundreds of fake Liberal claims we have all come to know so well.

Sorry if I just don't buy into your continued Bulls**t about the future and how Democrats will come into power again. Nobody believes that. We need look no further than Joe Biden for that confirmation.

 

[Condor060]

I taught Constitution and constitutional law for many, many years. SCOTUS is generally very predictable. This one does not like interfering with legislative actions if at all possible.

And adding seats to the Court will be the answer if it does not uphold NPV.

So you claim to have taught constitutional law but you want to pack the SCOTUS? Funny how Dems were against it during FDR's administration. And we already saw how changing the Senate votes by Dems from 60 votes to 50 to confirm a SCOTUS came back to bite Dems in the ass with Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. But Dems never learn.

If Congress increases the size of the Supreme Court for transparently partisan political reasons, it would cement the idea the justices are little more than politicians in robes, and that the court is little more than an additional arm through which partisan political power can be exercised. Court-packing for transparently partisan reasons would only make things worse, especially if it set a precedent for future Congresses to do the same.

Did you think if a Dem becomes president there would only be Dem presidents for ever?

Indeed, if one of the most important justifications for an independent, un-elected judiciary is the ability to protect the rights of minorities against the tyranny of the majority, a court that is beholden to whichever party is currently in power would likely lack both the inclination and the legitimacy to stand up to the political branches. Indeed, that Congress has not revisited the size of the court in 150 years is a powerful testament to just how ingrained the norm of nine has become and how concerned different political constituencies have been at different times about preserving the court’s power.

But you come in here like its guaranteed and once that happens Dems will rule.

Maybe you should take a class on constitutional law instead of teaching it.

Why is it every time Democrats loose, they want to (need to) change the rules on everything?