Zeuxidamus said:Excuse me sir I am not confused, but rather you seem to be.
Let me ask you this though sir. How can you as a Republican condone the big government attitude and lack of fiscal responsibility from our current regime? At least I halfway respected the republican party when they supposedly supported these ideas, but now I just see them as the same as democrats but with better public relations people.
Umm, Zeuxidamus, I noticed that you missed a couple words and added a couple when citing Oxford.Zeuxidamus said:Ok we will start with the Oxford dictionary definition of fascism,"extreme totalitarian right-wing nationalist movement or philosophy"
I'm not sure how you're defining "close". He has not expressed any ideas that he is going to remain in power after his term is up (nor has he expressed removing term limits either).Zeuxidamus said:And the dictator question is up for debate also, true Bush is not the definition of a dictator but is getting close.
Bush has even had dissent in his own appointees (Powell is a quick throw-out name for that). Disagreement when warranted is a sign of an independent mind and should be applauded and not disparaged.Zeuxidamus said:Funny how you support Bush but don't agree with everything he does.
Could you explain on this.. I don't see how "pulling the plug" on a dying woman, kept alive by mechanical means, is considered "fascism" a type of government.averagejoe said:. What happened with her was and is fascism.
averagejoe said:are you that blinded by liberal propaghanda that you cannot see the similarity? hitler believed in the disposal of the infirm and non-arien alike. and to set you straight, she was not on any kind of resperator, she was simply being fed by other than ordinary means. just because she was a burden, does that means she should be starved to death.THAT IS FASCISM!"not desirable", WAKE UP YOU INSENSITIVE MORON!
averagejoe said:i call it like i see it, but if it comes down to what ifs, id rather not leave my life in the hands of a spouse who already has a girlfriend and kids before i'm even dead! come on, he hid it under the guise of quality of life. let me ask you a question, if you had a child born with a birth defect that would limit his "quality of life", would you just starve the kid to death? because that is basically what he did, and if it wasn't a slow and painful death, then why did it for 1).13 days to die,2).put her on morphine? these people are sick,(speaking of the doctors) that just stood by and let her slowly die.
averagejoe said:lets be honest here, this is not about your moral beliefs, its about trying to get everyone you blab on to to agree with what your saying, typical liberal, always got to have some kind of rivalry,huh?
Zeuxidamus said:I would like to dispell the myth of an islamo-fascist culture.
The melding of the islam and fascism is an invention of Fox news and seems to be making inroads into popular culture. I have a problem with this as it is extremely misleading.
Ok we will start with the Oxford dictionary definition of fascism,"extreme totalitarian right-wing nationalist movement or philosophy"
And this is what Benito Mussilini said of fascism,"Fascism is the marriage of right wing government with corporate interests."
Now with those two fascism definitions we are forced to see the islamic movement for what it is, an Islamic- fundamentalist movement, which Oxford define fundamentalism as,"strict adhereance to traditional religious beliefs"
We are the only fascist movement right now, having a full fledged right wing government that is melded with corporate interests. I would like to hear an inteligent argument that we in the U.S. aren't fascist, an Islam is but I don't think that is possible.
One more thing is that Nazi's were not fascist either but rather National-socialist.
This countries educational system is a joke and that is why propoganda like the "islamo-fascist" term, can gain creedence over time.
new coup for you said:the Taliban was legitimately totalitarian, using all the mechanisms of that form of government.
Iraq was just a nationalist dictatorship.
most people mean Islamo-totalitarianism when they say Islamo-fascism
fascism and totalitarianism are so associated that they're often incorrectly used interchangeably
new coup for you said:that'd just be a theocracy, not necessarily a totalitarianism.
in totalitarianism the state is reality. rebelling would be unfathomable, it'd be like rebelling against the sky.
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