The MYTH of Corporate Taxes

[TurtleDude]

Nah, they pay nothing, we pay for it all. They pass every single cost to us, we pay both ways

companies that provide useful products and as a byproduct Jobs,are a benefit to society. people that sit around sucking on the public teat may have once been useful to society, but in many cases they are not and will never be.

 

[TurtleDude]

Ahh turtle...when corps paid double the taxs there were MORE jobs. They pay less now they almost any time in history and theres NO jobs...the darlins sent them all to china so they grubbers could make even more. You need to give that old song and dance a break. Corps dont give one bit of a chit for their employees

cause and effect not established

you are making idiotic stereotypes that you cannot prove. Usually when I see someone whining about corporations I wonder what sort of person I am dealing with.

 

[TurtleDude]

hmm..... maybe it really is that you just do not get the idea. here, does this sound right to you?


yes? i thought it might. but, see, THIS is not the reason for the tax policies we employ. it is not being nice, it is being rational. Now, there are a lotta ways to show the rationality, including those that embrace compassion, but... i know you don't give a fiddler's fart for compassion, so i will not tire you with that. here, though, is another good reasoning:

now, would it surprise you to know that BOTH excerpts were written by the same individual?

thought it might.

geo.

the most sound argument in that daily kos blather is winning the plurality. that is the only reason we have a progressive income tax--the masses can outvote us net tax payers

 

[TurtleDude]

Some posters on this site have indicated that the only tax that matters is federal income tax.

in terms of buying votes and seducing voters the FIT and then the death tax are the main issues. they are also taxes that the masses and those who pander to them can raise without effecting the pocketbooks of the majority of the voters

 

[lpast]

companies that provide useful products and as a byproduct Jobs,are a benefit to society. people that sit around sucking on the public teat may have once been useful to society, but in many cases they are not and will never be.

Public workers provide a service guys like you are incapable of...I saw many a professional with piss in their pants, when we hit the scene to save them....or arrest them

 

[TurtleDude]

Public workers provide a service guys like you are incapable of...I saw many a professional with piss in their pants, when we hit the scene to save them....or arrest them

rather lame

there are plenty of security contractors who are as good or better than police departments

 

[Geo Patric]

wonder why we had to have an amendment to allow the odious income tax.
I remember studying the idiotic Sixteenth amendment at one of the top "lawyer school"s in the country.

The founders weren't big fans of income style taxes
or parasites for that matter

you seem to have a lotta opinions of these 'founders'. yet you seem either unable or unwilling to show that your opinions have much substance.

they were cognzant that they were not omniscient, though, and they DID value rule of the people which is why they made that same constitution amendable.

geo.

 

[Geo Patric]

the most sound argument in that daily kos blather is winning the plurality. that is the only reason we have a progressive income tax--the masses can outvote us net tax payers

please note that the writer was an opposition editorialist.

geo.

 

[Gargantuan]

¡gracias! es una de las cosas que hago mejor

"que triste . . . pobrecito usted."

está eso mejor?

jorge

Close. A little better though still pretty bad. Que hago bien, and don't have the usted there. To say what we say in English as poor you you can just say pobrecito. You can just say "¿es mejor?

 

[Mach]

I love how the right stick up for the rich and the major corporations..

If it's sticking up for there freedom, I hope it's not just the right that sticks up for them, and I trust you understand that their being rich or not is irrelevant. Your unethical position is showing.

 

[Mach]

If you and Mach want to talk about that, please join in, but stop trying to create a new thread...
You and Mach have succeeded in informing the rest of us you really don't understand anything about how corp tax works.
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Why are you not responding to my posts directly, but instead responding to TD and including my name? Please refrain from doing such things, it's discourteous and annoying.

I took the time to rebut your OP, and to answer Tess's questions. If you want more, just ask.

The biggest false b.s. talking point of them all.
Where is citibank going to go? Africa? Are they just going to pick up and leave, wipe the credit card debts, mortgages, credit lines off the books and leave. Start over in South America? Gimme a break. You have no clue what you're talking about. I love that far-right fantasy notion..."Companies will leave" John Gault is a fantasy. It's a made up story. You and Michelle Malkin make me laugh so hard....
Where is Carnival Cruises going to go??? Eliminate every U.S. dollar from their books and they'd go broke.

Why are you asking if or where they will go? They nearly all have expanded overseas. According to the link I referred you to, that's the leading cause for reduced U.S. taxes from the very large multi-nationals. They do exactly what you claim they are not doing (or cannot do?) above, and they move profitable parts of the business to some place with less costly tax rates (and often less costly other regulations as well). You're not getting this?

In case you missed it:

What The Top U.S. Companies Pay In Taxes - Forbes.com

But it's the tax benefit of overseas operations that is the biggest reason why multinationals end up with lower tax rates than the rest of us. It only makes sense that multinationals "put costs in high-tax countries and profits in low-tax countries," says Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation. Those low-tax countries are almost anywhere but the U.S. "When you add in state taxes, the U.S. has the highest tax burden among industrialized countries," says Hodge. In contrast, China's rate is just 25%; Ireland's is 12.5%.

And let's keep in mind. Democrats and liberals have been beating up on tax rates for $200K+ needing to go higher. That's a world apart from these large multi-nationals. It's orders of magnitude different both in terms of income and wealth, and in how such corporations affect the U.S. economy in general.

 

[Geo Patric]

Close. A little better though still pretty bad. Que hago bien, and don't have the usted there. To say what we say in English as poor you you can just say pobrecito. You can just say "¿es mejor?

Dios mio!

i have a vocab quiz manana and a mini essay quiz thurs...

i am in deep menudo.

geo.