The message being no interracial marriage for you.

[soylentgreen]

I'm rebutting a blanket attack on religion by using the doctrine of a sect of Christianity as a cudgel. I also don't believe the notion all religion is bad and the world would be a better place without it.

I can attack religion on many different levels. It's just that this thread happens to be on doctrine. I do not attack a belief in a god. That is neither a problem nor my concern. I will attack the notion that someone claims they know what a god wants and creates a doctrine from that belief. As I said to another christian on this site. There are good people who are christians and they are usually very humble and get on with life helping others and asking for no reward or getting in your face about it. But unfortunately there are also people who call themselves christians who could not care less about anyone and want only to force their beliefs on others, They are the ones who shout the loudest and the longest. Attracting all the attention. That is the real problem with christianity.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Now would be the time unless you don't want to discuss it.

I have done that multiple times on this forum already. This isn't the thread for it, nor do I care to repeat myself.

If you want to start a new thread declaring how wonderful you think that concept is, feel free. If I don't take the time to crap all over it, I'm sure someone else will get it done in my place.

 

[tosca1]

So that justifies these assholes?

You're only singling out that one church, when someone pointed out there's also something that's even worse!
And that's your response.


You obviously have an axe to grind on Christianity.


Your motive is HATE.

Hate for Christianity.


Meh.
Hate can blind us that it clouds our reason.



Gotta get that hate out of your system, Hari.

 

[tosca1]

Religion is so wonderful.

Videos show 'Message' pastors preach against interracial marriage across U.S.

One former member of the sect said he felt “inferior” as a Black teenager because of his church’s racist beliefs on mixed race relationships.

tucson.com

Christianity is indeed wonderful.

I haven't watched your video yet.
But here's the thing.......


When something is being preached that doesn't seem right, or it's confusing.................always go to the Bible.


Here:

post #1,332

TOUGH QUESTIONS

Should We Believe Only What Can Be Scientifically Proven? Even the National Academy of Sciences had said: Science is not the only way of acquiring knowledge about ourselves and the world around us. Humans gain understanding in many other ways, such as through literature, the...

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[tosca1]

Religion is so wonderful.

Videos show 'Message' pastors preach against interracial marriage across U.S.

One former member of the sect said he felt “inferior” as a Black teenager because of his church’s racist beliefs on mixed race relationships.

tucson.com

 

[Hari Seldon]

You're only singling out that one church, when someone pointed out there's also something that's even worse!
And that's your response.


You obviously have an axe to grind on Christianity.


Your motive is HATE.

Hate for Christianity.


Meh.
Hate can blind us that it clouds our reason.



Gotta get that hate out of your system, Hari.

I'm not the one preaching against interracial marriage.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Why would it matter to you if I were a Christian or not? While being a Christian, I do not turn the other cheek. I will be me. LOL

It doesn't matter other than to show the true nature of a supposed Christian. It's all you.

 

[Juin]

What justifies your condemning religion based on the actions of a sect? Probably still smarting from the results of the election and your hero Biden being a despicable liar.

There's definitely no justification for condemning a religion based on the actions of a sect.

 

[Juin]

That is the actual con job of christianity. Raise the moral bar so high that no one can live up to it. Thus creating the self fulfilling prophecy that we are all sinners and need a god. This is the basis of every sect christianity is based, a lie. So to answer the question that you did not answer with this attempt to dodge is no, you cannot point to a sect that does not deserve condemnation.

Is the OP himself exempt from condemnation? He condemns with the passion of any fanatical pastor

 

[devildavid]

Women under Sharia law women can only marry Muslims. Are you really going to claim that Islamic religion is better than Christianity?

That is not interracial. I made no comparative claims about religions, but nice straw man.

 

[DrewPaul]

I can attack religion on many different levels. It's just that this thread happens to be on doctrine. I do not attack a belief in a god. That is neither a problem nor my concern. I will attack the notion that someone claims they know what a god wants and creates a doctrine from that belief. As I said to another christian on this site. There are good people who are christians and they are usually very humble and get on with life helping others and asking for no reward or getting in your face about it. But unfortunately there are also people who call themselves christians who could not care less about anyone and want only to force their beliefs on others, They are the ones who shout the loudest and the longest. Attracting all the attention. That is the real problem with christianity.

As the book says...you will know them by their fruits.

 

[DrewPaul]

I have done that multiple times on this forum already. This isn't the thread for it, nor do I care to repeat myself.

If you want to start a new thread declaring how wonderful you think that concept is, feel free. If I don't take the time to crap all over it, I'm sure someone else will get it done in my place.

I'm not sure what concept you're referring too at this point. I think its chicken shit to respond saying is not...then refuse to defend it. You should say nothing if you have no intention of defending it.

 

[Juin]

Islam does not prohibit inter-racial marriage

Correct

Homor killing is more of a cultural thing than a religious one.

How did you come to that conclusion? I disagree. Take say Jordan, Syria, Egypt. Those nations have Christians and Mahometans. Both share a common culture. Honour killings among their Christians are close to nil. The vast majority of honour killings is by their Mahometans. Clearly that practice has a religious dimension to it

 

[Juin]

This is false, not "all Islam" teaches these things. You won't find any of these teachings in the Quran.

What about in the hadiths?

 

[Juin]

I don't think Islam has an issue with interracial marriage.

Correct

Marriage between Muslims and non Muslims sure but not between say Somali Muslims and Arabic Muslims

Marriage between Mahometans and non Mahometans is not generally allowed. Mahometan males can marry non Mahometan females if they are Christians or Jews. It is forbidden if the Mahometan female is Hindu, Sikh, or any of the variety of non Abrahamic religions

 

[Juin]

Being Muslim is not a race.

Islam is a religion. Of which there are people of various ethnic groups who are followers of islam

Correct

 

[Juin]

Well, you don't seem to attack Islam. Scared? How about honor murders? How about beheading or throwing gays off of buildings? Oh, you hate Christians and ... You do you. You point out what a religious sect does as if it were mainstream Christianity. You must be desperate. You do hate you some Christians.

The left never attacks Islam. One can even say there's an unholy alliance between the left and Islam

 

[Juin]

In general, while Muslim men are allowed to marry non-Muslim women, the Quran instructs them to take measures to avoid such acts and instead marry Muslim women. No such allowances are made for Muslim women, for whom interfaith marriage is strictly forbidden.

I realize this may not technically be forbidding interracial marriage but in effect it does for women.

And Moslem males cannot marry any non Moslem female. Marriage to females of Hindu, Shinto, Sikh, African religions is forbidden. But i think Islam allows their rape and use as concubines

 

[Noodlegawd]

I'm not sure what concept you're referring too at this point. I think its chicken shit to respond saying is not...then refuse to defend it. You should say nothing if you have no intention of defending it.

You can't read your own post to understand what concept I'm talking about? Put your money where your mouth is: defend your own nonsense before you demand that others defend their rebuttal.

 

[blur]

What about in the hadiths?

There's between 4,000-30,000 different hadiths. Different Muslims follow different hadiths, and then there are Muslims who who don't believe in any hadiths (Quranists). So, again, the generalization that "all Islam" teaches "no interracial marriage and homosexuality punished by death" is not accurate. The only source that "all" Muslims agree on is the Quran, and the Quran does not teach those things.

 

[soylentgreen]

Is the OP himself exempt from condemnation? He condemns with the passion of any fanatical pastor

If you can point out the fault in the condemnation as easily as the fault can be pointed out in a priest condemning interracial marriage.

 

[soylentgreen]

As the book says...you will know them by their fruits.

Unfortunately it is those who believe in that book that are the most eager to eat such fruit.

 

[Luce]

For no reason whatsoever. That's what makes it really horrible.


What does that mean?

It means that all religions are bad for humanity. No exceptions.